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October 20, 2014, 09:11:56 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

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I forgot to say, conservative anti-science religious claims don't count

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I forgot to say, conservative anti-science religious claims don't count

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October 20, 2014, 11:00:08 AM
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I forgot to say, conservative anti-science religious claims don't count

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October 21, 2014, 12:27:39 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

I would love one, even if it was only used for memory storage.

The ability to remember every programming function instantly would be a big help to me.  I'm always looking into reference manuals since at my old age I can no longer remember everything I read.

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October 21, 2014, 12:44:58 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

Well first off who is "we"?  My country for example does not have a forced national id which we are required to posses at all times so it would help to know what country you are from.

As for the rest, I personally would avoid them if at all possible.  Given a quick look at how the government and large corporations have taken virtually every piece of technology and used it for their own gain whenever possible, I can't really see any benefit to myself. 
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October 21, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

I would love one, even if it was only used for memory storage.

The ability to remember every programming function instantly would be a big help to me.  I'm always looking into reference manuals since at my old age I can no longer remember everything I read.

This is an excellent reason, remember Johnny Mnemonic's "My brain can hold eighty gigs of data"?

What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

Well first off who is "we"?  My country for example does not have a forced national id which we are required to posses at all times so it would help to know what country you are from.

As for the rest, I personally would avoid them if at all possible.  Given a quick look at how the government and large corporations have taken virtually every piece of technology and used it for their own gain whenever possible, I can't really see any benefit to myself. 

In my country you get your ass kicked by cops for not having ID

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October 21, 2014, 02:13:07 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

One advantage will be for me to hack into someone's optic nerve and see what he sees all the time. Signed, the NSA.

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October 21, 2014, 02:16:36 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

One advantage will be for me to hack into someone's optic nerve and see what he sees all the time. Signed, the NSA.



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October 21, 2014, 02:48:46 AM
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microchip implantation has become a trend in today's technology, the use of this technology called nanotechnology, the technology is widely used for the manufacture of smartphones, computer microchips, and others, many microchips installed on smartphones and electronic gadgets, the microchip implantation make faster performance with smaller design space or mini ...  Cool

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October 21, 2014, 03:17:42 AM
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I think microchip implantation will inevitably be the status quo in the distant future. As for the near future, I don't see it being implemented with public fears of government vouyerism. I myself would gladly volunteer for a microchip implant if it can let me do things such as monitor my health or allow me some other form of convenience that would make up for the intrusion. I think the future of humanity will move towards automation and nanotechnology. Implantation will then be par the course for the common human.

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October 21, 2014, 03:23:30 AM
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What are your thoughts on microchip implants? Do you think they will positively contribute to society?

Here is what I think.

We already use smartphones, they have become our own personal identification. We have the forced National ID, which we are required to possess at all times and may get in serious trouble if found without one. We could abolish the National ID and have optional, not mandatory implants. I think they'll allow us to easily combat human trafficking. If we can integrate GPS tracking in such a chip, a missing child can not only be found easily, but we can eliminate the chances of such a tragedy happening. We could also devise a way to pay using Bitcoin by scanning it, similar to the QR code method we have.

Of course, we are many many years behind such a thing to ever be released. The technology exists alright, but not in an implantable form due to public opinion (See: Google Glass, SmartWatch, for wearable devices)

I don't think thew will ever contribute in a positive way.  It will just be a way for big brother to watch and control our every move.  With credit, debit, and cell phones, we are almost at the point where almost every move we make is already documented in some way.  I imagine eventually being micro chipped will become mandatory at birth.

I already notice that the younger generation is a lot more agreeable to have very little privacy. I can only see it getting worse.  Eventually everyone will be open to microchip implants.  I'm glad I'll likely be dead by then, because thats not a world I want to live in. 
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October 21, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
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October 21, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
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It is utterly shocking to me that people are even contemplating this as a positive thing. You are the turkey that is voting for Christmas, you may as well relinquish your rights and liberties now for that would be the inevitable consequence of such a move. Why would you allow other people to control you, after all, someone would have to make decisions about what chips get access to resources and which don't, which by default would mean they have power over you.
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October 21, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
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There need to be a tradeoff between privacy and progress.

If giving up certain data mean we can cure cancer faster, or cheaper way to bring products into the market, I am all up for it.

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October 21, 2014, 02:34:31 PM
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It is utterly shocking to me that people are even contemplating this as a positive thing. You are the turkey that is voting for Christmas, you may as well relinquish your rights and liberties now for that would be the inevitable consequence of such a move. Why would you allow other people to control you, after all, someone would have to make decisions about what chips get access to resources and which don't, which by default would mean they have power over you.

Did you make a new account just to say that?

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October 21, 2014, 02:39:23 PM
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It is utterly shocking to me that people are even contemplating this as a positive thing. You are the turkey that is voting for Christmas, you may as well relinquish your rights and liberties now for that would be the inevitable consequence of such a move. Why would you allow other people to control you, after all, someone would have to make decisions about what chips get access to resources and which don't, which by default would mean they have power over you.

Did you make a new account just to say that?

No, but even it that were the case why not comment on the substance of the argument rather than irrelevant questions?
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October 21, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
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There need to be a tradeoff between privacy and progress.

If giving up certain data mean we can cure cancer faster, or cheaper way to bring products into the market, I am all up for it.

But you can give that data now if you really wanted to so you are posing a false choice.
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October 21, 2014, 03:18:00 PM
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There need to be a tradeoff between privacy and progress.

If giving up certain data mean we can cure cancer faster, or cheaper way to bring products into the market, I am all up for it.

But you can give that data now if you really wanted to so you are posing a false choice.

Any reason why you are not using the same account to argue?
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October 21, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
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At this moment I can't see any advantage. I can't extend my memory by a memory card, can't get an embedded vision improvement device, I can't get stronger and faster with some muscle enhancers. All I can get today is an RFID chip or an USB stick under my skin. Cool! Especially the RFID stuff. That would make all my movements and actions even more easily traceable, and I could get more accurate and more targeted ads... hurray!
I'd think about trading off a part of my privacy for some useful implants, but not for the currently available stuff.
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October 21, 2014, 03:34:10 PM
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No, but even it that were the case why not comment on the substance of the argument rather than irrelevant questions?

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At this moment I can't see any advantage. I can't extend my memory by a memory card, can't get an embedded vision improvement device, I can't get stronger and faster with some muscle enhancers. All I can get today is an RFID chip or an USB stick under my skin. Cool! Especially the RFID stuff. That would make all my movements and actions even more easily traceable, and I could get more accurate and more targeted ads... hurray!
I'd think about trading off a part of my privacy for some useful implants, but not for the currently available stuff.

The technology will only be allowed to progress if we allow it to

As for the targeted ads part, Google Glass devs aren't allowed to show ads in their apps, for a very special reason: Consumer appeal. That's right, amongst competing markets, no one would want targeted ads or collect personal information.

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October 21, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
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What I find the most ironic is that in absolute terms would you chose the human body as the plateform for integration with silicon? Personally velocy raptor or some kind of squid... I mean not a human body... uncreative fools. Organic matter is quite performing, but lack in durability compared to inorganic matter...

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What I find the most ironic is that in absolute terms would you chose the human body as the plateform for integration with silicon? Personally velocy raptor or some kind of squid... I mean not a human body... uncreative fools. Organic matter is quite performing, but lack in durability compared to inorganic matter...

There's so much we can accomplish with the aid of wearable technology, I can know the year Germany became independent within seconds and without needing my hands or feet (Google Voice).

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And that makes your life experience more valuable?

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October 21, 2014, 05:11:52 PM
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Can not fight the inevitable of technology progress.

Those who refuse to adopt and give up privacy will get left behind by evolution.
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October 21, 2014, 05:35:19 PM
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Using fear against an opponent is the default option... However don't confuse technological innovation and evolution.  What you miss is that once the transhumanist utopia is achieved, who will have more value? The last few natural human beings or the "drones"... organic vs inorganic... you breath o2 and emits co2? low tech... your biomass maybe called for recycling after expiration date... The Natural Ones, protected to live in harmony has the way of Mankind. The Enhanced used, like a screwdriver... Enjoy, my choice is made. You know this joke? It isn't the man that wakes up early that makes it, but the one whose employees wake up early (chipped or not). Always improving the body or the mind over the "soul", what for? Productivity? Efficiency? interesting...

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What I find the most ironic is that in absolute terms would you chose the human body as the plateform for integration with silicon? Personally velocy raptor or some kind of squid... I mean not a human body... uncreative fools. Organic matter is quite performing, but lack in durability compared to inorganic matter...

There's so much we can accomplish with the aid of wearable technology, I can know the year Germany became independent within seconds and without needing my hands or feet (Google Voice).

There is a massive difference between wearable technology, of which an iphone in your pocket can be classified as, and implanting id/tracking/access keys.

I was pulled over on my bicycle riding to work once for no reason. I had front/rear lights, reflectors, helmet, riding in the bike lane with no traffic. The cop wanted my drivers license. He pulled me over solely to check my ID. I threw a fit and told him I don't need a license to ride a bike and I don't live in a country that requires me to carry id.

Let me reiterate, he didn't ask me to identify myself, he wanted my drivers license explicitly. He didn't ask any other questions, like where am I going, what am I doing. He just kept saying it was 'funny' to be riding  bike at 6am on a saturday. The packed lunch and work paper weren't evidence enough as if I am even required to justify my presence on a public road

I can just imagine them driving around and plotting my position based on the rfid chip in my ass.

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(I had front/rear lights, reflectors, helmet, riding in the bike lane with no traffic) ...I threw a fit and told him...

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October 21, 2014, 06:59:20 PM
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The day may come when the fetus or newborn is implanted with an onboard computer.  Monitoring health, tutoring, encyclopedia, communications, etc.  24/7 "connection".

Technology has made us more connected. We strive to be connected. Is that the ultimate goal? Will we become "one"? Will privacy and individualism matter anymore?


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The day may come when the fetus or newborn is implanted with an onboard computer.  Monitoring health, tutoring, encyclopedia, communications, etc.  24/7 "connection".

Technology has made us more connected. We strive to be connected. Is that the ultimate goal? Will we become "one"? Will privacy and individualism matter anymore?

I think this can quickly turn into a dystopian nightmare if data access is centralized. It would have dramatic consequences on the way people think and form consensus - group think could have potentially dangerous consequences and society's capability to innovate (often initiated by nonconformist individuals) might be severely impaired. Also it's not acceptable from an ethical point of view to implant technology into a fetus that is unaware and can't give consent.

That does not prevent society from endorsing it of course.

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October 21, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
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There need to be a tradeoff between privacy and progress.

If giving up certain data mean we can cure cancer faster, or cheaper way to bring products into the market, I am all up for it.

But you can give that data now if you really wanted to so you are posing a false choice.

Any reason why you are not using the same account to argue?

What are you talking about? I don't have multiple accounts.
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October 22, 2014, 04:22:41 AM
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I don't have multiple accounts.

Since when is it a crime to have multiple accounts?

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October 22, 2014, 04:42:45 AM
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Using fear against an opponent is the default option... However don't confuse technological innovation and evolution.  What you miss is that once the transhumanist utopia is achieved, who will have more value? The last few natural human beings or the "drones"... organic vs inorganic... you breath o2 and emits co2? low tech... your biomass maybe called for recycling after expiration date... The Natural Ones, protected to live in harmony has the way of Mankind. The Enhanced used, like a screwdriver... Enjoy, my choice is made. You know this joke? It isn't the man that wakes up early that makes it, but the one whose employees wake up early (chipped or not). Always improving the body or the mind over the "soul", what for? Productivity? Efficiency? interesting...

Don't use smartphones then, and hope that you'll never have to use an artificial pacemaker

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October 22, 2014, 10:33:39 AM
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Using fear against an opponent is the default option... However don't confuse technological innovation and evolution.  What you miss is that once the transhumanist utopia is achieved, who will have more value? The last few natural human beings or the "drones"... organic vs inorganic... you breath o2 and emits co2? low tech... your biomass maybe called for recycling after expiration date... The Natural Ones, protected to live in harmony has the way of Mankind. The Enhanced used, like a screwdriver... Enjoy, my choice is made. You know this joke? It isn't the man that wakes up early that makes it, but the one whose employees wake up early (chipped or not). Always improving the body or the mind over the "soul", what for? Productivity? Efficiency? interesting...

Don't use smartphones then, and hope that you'll never have to use an artificial pacemaker

Right on point.

People placed too much emphasis on stuffs that don't really matter.
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October 22, 2014, 10:35:33 AM
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do want you want, you will be the guinea pigs... If you like it, we can use you.

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October 22, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
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do want you want, you will be the guinea pigs... If you like it, we can use you.

Again, I am talking about highly secure personalized self assistance devices where you can toggle the functions only through biometrics

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