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October 21, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
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History of GREEN 3d MACD (@Bitstamp):

Date when it was                   Date when price
green first time                      reached top

29.10.2011 ($3.2)          -->   12.01.2012 ($7.38)  
17.04.2012 ($4.95)        -->   15.08.2012 ($16.41)
25.11.2012 ($12.07)      -->   10.12.2012 ($13.46)
09.01.2013 ($14.00)      -->   09.04.2013   ($260)
29.07.2013 ($90.54)      -->   31.08.2013 ($130.15)
12.10.2013 ($135.42)    -->   29.11.2013 ($1132)
07.05.2014 ($452.37)    -->   31.05.2014 ($661.48)
19.10.2014 ($376.20)    -->   ?


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October 21, 2014, 08:06:15 AM
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Most recent instance of such indication was on the 7th of May 2014. After 4 candles and 12days of sideways movement, finally price broke up and produced a remarkable rally.

Now price is stuck under the 200MA strong resistance. A lot of buying power is needed to overcome this stage and smaller time intervals show triple resistances (especially in the 1HR time interval).

https://i.imgur.com/ZfADj4E.jpg


Moreover, as shown below, market conditions were completely different back then. Stochastic produced a bullish signal 3 days prior to MACD and SAR was supportive throughout the price consolidation phase.

Today price remains at overbought territory with the Stochastic indicating a possibility of producing another sell signal and SAR still indicating downward pressure.

https://i.imgur.com/flF67f1.jpg

Only a strong break above $387 will increase the odds of revisiting near $400 (1HR interval). If such price action happens we will re-evaluate.

The probability for this scenario to play out at this moment stands around 30%-35%.




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October 21, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
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Every indicator I see right now says buy buy buy.

In the short term at least.

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October 21, 2014, 12:37:08 PM
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Every indicator I see right now says buy buy buy.

In the short term at least.

Two questions:
1. On what time interval?
2. What are your entry and exit points (where to buy / where to sell) ?

Early in the morning, our system has issued an alert:

Bitstamp 1HR

Long: On a strong break above $387 - 1HR 200MA | Actually $388 now since the average has moved up $1 | Max Target $405 | Probability of reaching max price: 30%

The setup has not been yet triggered
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October 21, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
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I haven't seen it like this since we went up to $600. The spring is coiled to the max. We will definitely be over $400 by this weekend. I was going to start a thread predicting that but want to get home and drop about $10k more before the price starts going up.

I don't really have a sell point Tongue  I only pause my buying while I wait to see when to jump in.

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October 21, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
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I haven't seen it like this since we went up to $600. The spring is coiled to the max. We will definitely be over $400 by this weekend. I was going to start a thread predicting that but want to get home and drop about $10k more before the price starts going up.

I don't really have a sell point Tongue  I only pause my buying while I wait to see when to jump in.

Same feeling Smiley
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October 21, 2014, 01:55:12 PM
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Yes
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October 21, 2014, 03:05:36 PM
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It means absolutely nothing. Buy tho.
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October 21, 2014, 06:24:18 PM
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It may go up a little bit, but it's not safe to say it's going up significantly. Using indicators like MACD is not a safe way to predict anything. These indicators produce many false signals. Just because it roughly worked a few times in the past doesn't mean much.

You should buy Bitcoin based on fundamentals. And fundamentals indeed look brighter every day with the bitcoin ecosystem now in solid growth mode.

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October 21, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
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I haven't seen it like this since we went up to $600. The spring is coiled to the max. We will definitely be over $400 by this weekend. I was going to start a thread predicting that but want to get home and drop about $10k more before the price starts going up.

I don't really have a sell point Tongue  I only pause my buying while I wait to see when to jump in.

This week will be a true indicator... If we break 400 and stay around there we should be in the green for a long time
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October 21, 2014, 07:24:40 PM
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It may go up a little bit, but it's not safe to say it's going up significantly. Using indicators like MACD is not a safe way to predict anything. These indicators produce many false signals. Just because it roughly worked a few times in the past doesn't mean much.

You should buy Bitcoin based on fundamentals. And fundamentals indeed look brighter every day with the bitcoin ecosystem now in solid growth mode.

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Roughly gone up a few times?

You mean it has gone up every time, and roughly has produced a few bubbles.
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October 21, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
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It may go up a little bit, but it's not safe to say it's going up significantly. Using indicators like MACD is not a safe way to predict anything. These indicators produce many false signals. Just because it roughly worked a few times in the past doesn't mean much.

You should buy Bitcoin based on fundamentals. And fundamentals indeed look brighter every day with the bitcoin ecosystem now in solid growth mode.

ya.ya.yo!

Roughly gone up a few times?

You mean it has gone up every time, and roughly has produced a few bubbles.

Exactly,

As far as I can tell the 3d MACD hasn't produced one false signal so far in the history of Bitcoin.

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October 21, 2014, 08:49:39 PM
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Definitely a big bullish signal. Based on the last green October signal, November is going to be big.
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October 21, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
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It may go up a little bit, but it's not safe to say it's going up significantly. Using indicators like MACD is not a safe way to predict anything. These indicators produce many false signals. Just because it roughly worked a few times in the past doesn't mean much.

You should buy Bitcoin based on fundamentals. And fundamentals indeed look brighter every day with the bitcoin ecosystem now in solid growth mode.

ya.ya.yo!

Roughly gone up a few times?

You mean it has gone up every time, and roughly has produced a few bubbles.

Exactly,

As far as I can tell the 3d MACD hasn't produced one false signal so far in the history of Bitcoin.
This conversation is pointless. A signal is only as good as the entry/exit strategy that accompanies it. What is yours?
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October 21, 2014, 09:14:24 PM
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My problem with the 3DMACD signal is that if you switch to 1WMACD, then you still see a lot of negative momentum. It is why I don't trust charts much, the signals seem to change arbitrarily depending on the scale at which you look at them.

That being said, I think it does show a good chance that the big picture may be changing direction soon. We may start seeing some sustainable growth in the value of BTC.
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My problem with the 3DMACD signal is that if you switch to 1WMACD, then you still see a lot of negative momentum. It is why I don't trust charts much, the signals seem to change arbitrarily depending on the scale at which you look at them.

That being said, I think it does show a good chance that the big picture may be changing direction soon. We may start seeing some sustainable growth in the value of BTC.

All indicators like MACD are lagging. The bigger the timeframe, the more they will lag. They are also a self fulfilling prophecy to some retail traders. For the trader who realizes these things, MACD can still be useful to watch.

The big boys are not using MACD, they are reading price/volume action.
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October 21, 2014, 09:54:36 PM
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My problem with the 3DMACD signal is that if you switch to 1WMACD, then you still see a lot of negative momentum. It is why I don't trust charts much, the signals seem to change arbitrarily depending on the scale at which you look at them.


Think about time frames as gears in a watch or the number wheels in an old odometer.
Ex.
Weekly<->Daily<->4hr<->2hr<->1hr<->30minute...
The time frame to the furthest right needs to complete an entire cycle to click the next one to the left up by one (This is a rough estimate, but I feel it explains it well). Therefore it takes many cycles at lower time frames to complete one cycle at the longer time frames. What you want to do is find the time where they all align. This also tells us that this cross up is likely to have at least one more cycle before ticking that Weekly MACD up to a bullish state.

What I think will happen with the 3D MACD is this... We will get a rise to the mid-400's or so. This will make the 3D MACD rise significantly. Then we will drop (potentially to new lows, BUT, the 3d MACD will not cross back down). The Weekly MACD will have the time from this rise (which should affect the signal by then), it will begin hooking back up and get the cross there. That will signal the end of the bear market.

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October 21, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
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Exactly,

As far as I can tell the 3d MACD hasn't produced one false signal so far in the history of Bitcoin.

This is patently untrue. There was plenty of flip-flopping during a few flattish periods pre-2013 bubble.

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October 22, 2014, 12:01:35 AM
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I hope thats good news, lol... We need something to get this thing going. Also, lets hope that we dont get a fucking dumper if/when it spikes 20 percent or so (usually happens and is a buzz kill as per buzz killington on Family guy)
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Exactly,

As far as I can tell the 3d MACD hasn't produced one false signal so far in the history of Bitcoin.

This is patently untrue. There was plenty of flip-flopping during a few flattish periods pre-2013 bubble.

? Maybe I'm doing this wrong but I don't see it

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