The truth about CannaCoin (CCN)

[esotericizm]

sounds like typical bullshit people come up with when they are caught to me.

lol are you suggesting that the plan D9 had was to move premine funds into 25+ addresses each on the rich list and each with the same balance. He was then apparently going to use those funds to dump and run even though they went untouched when CANN was at its ath?

Also am I to assume that the claims made by the OP are correct? The cannapay dev has posted in this thread and haven't denied the claims? Pretty telling about who the real scammers are.

[passion4cannabis]

https://i.imgur.com/ReOooLw.jpg

FUD team. You could have handled bringing up this situation in a more professional matter.

Now, on with the vision of CANN.

[Bitcycle]

 it should be known that the CCN team spent money ruining the reputation of CANN. That money could have been well spent furthering software development for CannaCoin.

All you need to know right here.

Run as far away from these scumbags and CCN as you can get.

[Bitcycle]

What about the other questionable 8 million coins?

Note how a member of the CCN team not only doesn't deny the allegations, but continues to FUD in this very thread.

[retro12]

  The whole fact that CCN has put in this much effort to FUD and try to find any reason to talk down CANN is pure comedy..Well done Delta9 and CANN team your obviously a big thorn in some ones side
  When people need to focus on shitting on CANN and not worrying about their own shitcoin... Priceless 

[dleader]

What about the other questionable 8 million coins?

Note how a member of the CCN team not only doesn't deny the allegations, but continues to FUD in this very thread.

Note how convienent it is for this guy to post no proof and use a throw away account instead of his own. Too convenient. Regardless that premine number is alarming.

And yea were supposed to believe that a crypto dev team paid a group to read the blockchain... cmon it would take one team member 2 minutes... they dont need to hire fud.

[rugrats]

The PR firm in question specializes in blockchain technology and upon analysing blockchains they find whatever fault they can and capitalize on it via way of organized FUD. The PR firm are the ones who found out about the so called "Hidden Premine" and then passed that info along to the CCN team who themselves have put extradionary effort into ruining the reputation of CANN.

I cannot support this type of behaviour and it should be known that the CCN team spent money ruining the reputation of CANN.

Does anyone else find this hilarious?  Spent money...to read the blockchain Also, might want to count those 25 addresses again.  CannabisCoin should go down as the most botched pre-mine accounting job ever.

Dude, you can read a blockchain and perform auditing and reverse tracking of addresses!
You should totally open up a competing PR firm and approach CANN!

[minerjoen]

I have been involved in several closed door meetings with the CCN team and for this reason I've made a throwaway account as my real account can be linked back to my real world details.

Firstly I would like to state that the original intention of the CCN team was too support all the MMJ coins via way of payment solutions. This was great and I felt that the team had a purpose worth pursuing. The trouble came late last week when the CCN dev team reached out to the CANN dev team and asked them if they wanted to partner up for the good of the industry. The CANN dev's for whatever reason rejected this propsal which angered the CCN dev team.

The focus of the discussion then violently changed from "How can we improve our own coin" to "How can we tarnish the reputation of cann". Many idea's were thrown around but eventually the team settled on spending BTC to hire a PR firm to run what was essentially a smear campaign against CANN. It was a well known fact that the price of CANN would plummet on the 20th (that's just how the altcoin markets work and nothing nefarious was done to lead upto the inital dump) knowing this the CCN team figured that the 20th was the best day for the PR firm to make their move.

The PR firm in question specializes in blockchain technology and upon analysing blockchains they find whatever fault they can and capitalize on it via way of organized FUD. The PR firm are the ones who found out about the so called "Hidden Premine" and then passed that info along to the CCN team who themselves have put extradionary effort into ruining the reputation of CANN.

I cannot support this type of behaviour and it should be known that the CCN team spent money ruining the reputation of CANN. That money could have been well spent furthering software development for CannaCoin.

At this point I wouldn't trust either coin for any serious investment.

CCN is just a bunch of kids what can't do more then FUD.
The only survivor is CANN. CANN is back on track, survived the brainless fuds and is moving forward.
CCN destroyed themself by acting like a bunch of brainless kids.

[NobodyYouKnow]

What about the other questionable 8 million coins?

Note how a member of the CCN team not only doesn't deny the allegations, but continues to FUD in this very thread.

Note how convienent it is for this guy to post no proof and use a throw away account instead of his own. Too convenient. Regardless that premine number is alarming.

And yea were supposed to believe that a crypto dev team paid a group to read the blockchain... cmon it would take one team member 2 minutes... they dont need to hire fud.

The 14+ Mill unclaimed coins have been destroyed.
http://cannabiscoinnews.tumblr.com/
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL.htm
http://earlz.net/view/2014/10/22/0340/provably-spendable-altcoin-burn-addresses
D9 destroying the 14+ million CANN video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xORbdGwm4&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you! 

[StarFire]

You all must be full of the high to think cann was anything but the smoke and scam. 

[hybridsole]

What about the other questionable 8 million coins?

Note how a member of the CCN team not only doesn't deny the allegations, but continues to FUD in this very thread.

Note how convienent it is for this guy to post no proof and use a throw away account instead of his own. Too convenient. Regardless that premine number is alarming.

And yea were supposed to believe that a crypto dev team paid a group to read the blockchain... cmon it would take one team member 2 minutes... they dont need to hire fud.

The 14+ Mill unclaimed coins have been destroyed.
http://cannabiscoinnews.tumblr.com/
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL.htm
http://earlz.net/view/2014/10/22/0340/provably-spendable-altcoin-burn-addresses
D9 destroying the 14+ million CANN video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xORbdGwm4&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you! 

I think it's funny that not only do you believe this means the CANN dev gains more respect and honor for essentially lying about a significant percentage of coins, but that CCN would need to pay for a PR firm to uncover basic information about the CANN blockchain.

[solid12345]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Even if the CANN dev was hiding something about the premine, the behavior of CCN is not much better, be it fudding CANN under sock accounts, tokypotato pretending to be friendly to the team one day while the next making passive aggressive comments about how CANN won't work or raising stupid issues like the use of the letter C in the wallet address, etc. and then they take CANN off Cannapay yet go and add that scamcoin Sativa to it, they are hardly white knights.

Also the fact the premine wasn't dumped at CANNs ATH tells me DeltaNine is in it for the long haul and isn't as nefarious as people make him out to be.

At the end of the day too the guy spent a huge amount of his own money on a damn marijuana grow farm, name any other dev on BTC Talk who would commit such a thing to their project?

[hybridsole]

Even if the CANN dev was hiding something about the premine, the behavior of CCN is not much better


Also the fact the premine wasn't dumped at CANNs ATH tells me DeltaNine is in it for the long haul and isn't as nefarious as people make him out to be.

So let me get this straight.  The fact that one of the CCN devs posts questions about the blockchain is just as bad as knowingly hiding a pre-mine for several months and lying about it? 

The fact the premine wasn't dumped at the ATH is totally meaningless.  If a bank robber hides stolen money and doesn't spend it, does that somehow make them less of a criminal? 

[cryptonikus]

Im gonna buy more CANN. You failed 

[EyesWideOpen]

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you! 

Best case scenario, the CANN devs are massively incompetent.
Worst case (and more likely) scenario, the CANN devs are dishonest, thieving scumbags.

Either way, CANN devs have lost most of their credibility. The only ones that still have faith in them are bagholders like you, people who are so invested they have no choice but to turn a blind eye to this.

[NobodyYouKnow]

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you! 

Best case scenario, the CANN devs are massively incompetent.
Worst case (and more likely) scenario, the CANN devs are dishonest, thieving scumbags.

Either way, CANN devs have lost most of their credibility. The only ones that still have faith in them are bagholders like you, people who are so invested they have no choice but to turn a blind eye to this.

Newbie with 2 posts, clearly not a fake account at all from the CCN clowns trying to tarnish CANN's impeccable reputation since they DELIVER ON PROMISES unlike pretty much most if not all other coins. Go do something productive instead of hating you ass-hat male-butt munching noob.

[trigungx]

How much would the premine be worth right now?

[Jamesonotc]

How much would the premine be worth right now?

Aprox ~550BTC or roughly ~200,000$ as of today 10/24/14. At this rate, his salary would be ~$33,333 a month, ~$8,333 a week and ~$1190 a day.

At its peak (nearly .00015000BTC) it was worth ~3,150BTC or roughly ~$1,112,550 no the date 10/19/14. At the rate on this day his salary was valued at ~$93,712 Monthly, ~$23,428 a week and ~$3,346 a day.

[EyesWideOpen]

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you! 

Best case scenario, the CANN devs are massively incompetent.
Worst case (and more likely) scenario, the CANN devs are dishonest, thieving scumbags.

Either way, CANN devs have lost most of their credibility. The only ones that still have faith in them are bagholders like you, people who are so invested they have no choice but to turn a blind eye to this.

Newbie with 2 posts, clearly not a fake account at all from the CCN clowns trying to tarnish CANN's impeccable reputation since they DELIVER ON PROMISES unlike pretty much most if not all other coins. Go do something productive instead of hating you ass-hat male-butt munching noob.

Yes, only people who are associated with CNN find the behaviour of CANN dev despicable. Everybody else think there is nothing wrong with a dev hiding between 12 to 18 plus million coins. Everybody else think its okay for the CANN dev to pretend not to know about the addresses, only to suddenly remember he had the private key in an old server. Everybody else think its honest that the CANN dev still hasn't burnt all the stash discovered.

But I'm sure low intelligence homophobe like you know better.

[pinchecobadre]

some historical reading pleasure about our trusted-neighborhood watchdogs at the helm of CCN:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.360  


Touted CCN as having the backing of 1000s of medical marijuana-based community members in the Northwest when that couldn't have been farther from the truth.  It's just two guys selling out their user-base of an outdated UBB bulletin-board system.  They did it then, they're doing it now.

When they got called out for selling out their own NWGT community members, they banned those members and breached the trust of many.



These guys just don't know when to quit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.msg9320522#msg9320522


I'm surprised CCN still has vocal supporters of Tokyopotato's spamming .

I support CCN's projects -- I think they have real potential, but none of what they've been doing on these forums the past few days is what CCN is all about.

It's a shame CCN will forever be tarnished, because of this FUCKING TWAT tokyopotato and his well-oiled spammaganda machine.

I once thought highly of these guys, and I have never done such a drastic 180 on a person's character.  

I may not have lost money with CCN, but I feel more scammed, more duped, more betrayed from their actions than from those who hyped up GUE and GLYPH, then took off without a trace!