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Author Topic: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO  (Read 126074 times)
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March 30, 2015, 11:06:36 AM
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WOODCOIN TIMELINE UPDATED

Greetings woodcutters.  I haven't heard much input recently on anything that needs work in our little piece of the crypto forest. 
In efforts to coordinate our efforts I will lay out my current vision of the timeline, so you can tell me where you disagree or where you think we should focus our efforts.

2015 - 2024? -   Accumulate LOG. 

We just want to make sure the network is working well and cruise through this period grabbing as much LOG as we can.  Mostly we are well hidden in the overgrowth of X13/PoS hybrids and other experimental coins all around us.  We just need to make sure we mark out our terrirtory well, of pure Skein proof of work and logarithmic supply increase.  These strengths will eventually emerge.  I don't think there is much need for additional clients or services in this time period.  My intention is to make sure we merge all litecoin networking protocol changes into our most commonly used client, avoiding cruft buildup or any network crises.  I plan to maintain other client forks capable of working with the woodcoin network including a command line only reference implementation.  For good or for bad, we probably won't need to change fee structure or much else until there is substantial transaction traffic on the network.         

2024? - 2034

Sometime during this time range, it will come to light that a logarithmic supply growth is the optimal way to handle the economics of a proof of work coin, and we might suffer additional attention.  It is likely there will be a number of hurdles to cross as exchange commodities based on counterfeiting become less practical in a coin-educated society.  This means that more effort will be focused on hacking coin networks and more transaction traffic will come through our little network.  Skein hash function mining wars are likely to be more intense in the usual ways and we might finally find something out about the proclivity of this hash function to be embedded in silicon.  In the end however it is the economics of woodcoin that will keep us alive.  The only question is whether other logarithmic coins could drive us out of our niche.         

2034 - 2134

Somewhere in this time it is likely that technologies for segmenting block chains become commonly used.  Some sort of full node will need to run without having the whole block chain, and so a segment of the chain can be used.  It is unclear to me just what shape this will take but I hope it will not be a hard protocol change, but something that rides on top of the dumb network.  Self adapting and intelligent coin networks are likely to be growing through this time.  They will have their place but it is likely that a straight PoW coin like woodcoin will still be an important piece of any resulting ecosystem.  Much depends on what happens to BTC in the current era. 

The coin ecosystems will change greatly during these time periods, but I doubt the times will be as tumultuous as the ones we now inhabit.  Depending on how soil science and space exploration advance, we might need to leave the two minute block interval.  A DSA algo change might also be necessary in here somewhere.  ECC looks good for now but as soon as signs of weakness appear it will be hard fork time.     

2305

At this point half the LOGs are released.  Massive worldwide parties are planned including music conducted to synchronized global rhythms, scheduled and continue for a month around the release.  LOG cabins appear on the moon.   

2500 - 1M 

Not much of interest happens during these times, Skein is replaced and coins ride over IPv205 or whatever it may be at that point.   Society has moved passed the crutch of using exchange commodities so coin networks are at this point mostly data tools, more of public databases than coins. 

1M - 2M 

BFL asics arrive. 

2M - 3M

Chains linked with extraglactic coin networks. 

350M

Last LOG is released.  Fees only for choppers from now on, sorry folks! 

   
   



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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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April 03, 2015, 03:12:09 PM
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FYI - woodcutting.club will be relaunching not later than 20 April. Had SERIOUS spam problems, to the point where the majority of the bandwidth was being used by them. I've switched to a host with a much more generous bandwidth allotment (digitalocean) but it will be a little while before I get a new, spam-resistant site up and running.

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April 06, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
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FYI - woodcutting.club will be relaunching not later than 20 April. Had SERIOUS spam problems, to the point where the majority of the bandwidth was being used by them. I've switched to a host with a much more generous bandwidth allotment (digitalocean) but it will be a little while before I get a new, spam-resistant site up and running.

Sounds good, thanks!  Looking forward to relinking and reconvening.  I will keep an eye out on freenode channel #woodcoin as well.   

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April 14, 2015, 03:43:11 PM
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Well you all knew it was coming.  However you didn't know how or when.  Let me tell you a story.

When the elves first contacted me, if that is indeed how it happened for it is all a blur to me sometimes, I knew what to do. 
I left my place, and followed the call.  Yeah yeah, at the time I told myself it was just because I liked the Elfven maidens but the truth was that I knew there was something afoot in middle earth and we were all in it together.   

I got that feeling again the other day, as I was making final preparations to leave Mordor.  I saw someone arrive at the mountain where I stay, someone with a white beard and a staff.  The staff was.. wooden.  This might not seem so unusual to you but the texture was distinctly foreign, like it was from a forest older than anything here.  Instincts here are strong, and I treat him like any other orc.  However quickly I can tell that something is amiss.  His colleague who looks quite elfven is holding a contraption such as I have never seen before.  It looks like something from the pits of Saruman's deepest workshop.  And the stink is clearly not the usual orcish odor.  "Heatsink grease" the bearded one says, reading my mind.  "And two stroke engine oil".  WTF?

Time passes, things change, and we must adapt. 
Immediately I pulled out my Axe.  The elf chuckled at me and whistled a tune, which reminded me of the forests of LothLorien.  The one dressed as a wizard or a drunken master leaned his staff against his case and took godawful contraption from the elf, and held it in the air.  He pulled a cord attached to it.  Suddenly the air was filled with a shriek like an orcish forge, metal on metal and explosives.  I knew the chainsaw was born.

Happy chopping folks.  GPU chainsaws are here.     

https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer

Relevant changes are in this commit:
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/commit/4db86d369eeaf89fc13ae551d101b1d3df6fbc9a

Windows Binary for GPU Chopper:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee9s8wjwk1dr8ib/ccminer-rel1.6.1-skein2-x86.7z 


Once a few people can confirm operations I will add these to the OP. 
Special thanks to authors for their voyage through hostile lands and disclosure. 



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April 14, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
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Strong and value as its name...... Wink

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April 17, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
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Happy chopping folks.  GPU chainsaws are here.     
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer

Thanks funkenstein. ccminer is working well so far. The nethash makes it possible to mine solo a little.
I'm just on it with a single 750ti to make no chainsaw massacre in this wood  Wink
I will hold and watch this coin further. 
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April 21, 2015, 09:15:13 PM
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Happy chopping folks.  GPU chainsaws are here.     
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer

Thanks funkenstein. ccminer is working well so far. The nethash makes it possible to mine solo a little.
I'm just on it with a single 750ti to make no chainsaw massacre in this wood  Wink
I will hold and watch this coin further. 

So does it still make sense to chop with a CPU?

I just set up my digital ocean droplet to chop for me. I imported the private key to my local wallet to monitor progress. I hope to see a block or two found eventually. I know they have pretty fast processors.

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April 21, 2015, 09:19:05 PM
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FYI - woodcutting.club will be relaunching not later than 20 April. Had SERIOUS spam problems, to the point where the majority of the bandwidth was being used by them. I've switched to a host with a much more generous bandwidth allotment (digitalocean) but it will be a little while before I get a new, spam-resistant site up and running.

Sounds good, thanks!  Looking forward to relinking and reconvening.  I will keep an eye out on freenode channel #woodcoin as well.   

Now that I have a good server set up, I will do this very soon. Sorry for the delay.

Anyone have suggestions on a forum software with very good spam protection?

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April 21, 2015, 10:19:12 PM
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Funk,

I have tried everything to create a vanity address using vanitygen with namespace 73 (W). For some reason, the resulting private key is not actually the address that Woodcoin imports. What's up with that?

(Am I using the wrong namespace)?

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April 22, 2015, 02:42:01 AM
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Happy chopping folks.  GPU chainsaws are here.     
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer

Thanks funkenstein. ccminer is working well so far. The nethash makes it possible to mine solo a little.
I'm just on it with a single 750ti to make no chainsaw massacre in this wood  Wink
I will hold and watch this coin further. 

So does it still make sense to chop with a CPU?

I just set up my digital ocean droplet to chop for me. I imported the private key to my local wallet to monitor progress. I hope to see a block or two found eventually. I know they have pretty fast processors.

48 LOGs in the time since I wrote this.

By my calculations, if I somehow chop 7716.3636 per month with this remote woodcutter, I have covered the cost of my hosting, at current rates. Of course the wisdom with Woodcoin is to hold b/c the difficulty is going up and up and the rarity of the coin is therefore also going up. 

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April 22, 2015, 10:19:01 AM
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Funk,

I have tried everything to create a vanity address using vanitygen with namespace 73 (W). For some reason, the resulting private key is not actually the address that Woodcoin imports. What's up with that?

(Am I using the wrong namespace)?

Which version of vanitygen are you using?  I'm not sure I follow. 

Thanks for reminding me bitillionaire, I never finished modding the vanitygen in my github repo.  Remember woodcoin uses a different elliptic curve than all other coins (that I know of) so the algo which goes from privkey -> pubkey  is different (as well as the usual first character modification).  If you want to play around with keys, use logaddress.org (working) (wallet details) and see what different privkeys get you.   

After some travels I am now back on the scene like a record machine (sayin' ooh-papa-doo, how y'all do), so hopefully I can get you a working LOG vanitygen in the next few days.  Please let me know if anyone has one working in the meantime.   

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April 22, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
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Happy chopping folks.  GPU chainsaws are here.     
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer

Thanks funkenstein. ccminer is working well so far. The nethash makes it possible to mine solo a little.
I'm just on it with a single 750ti to make no chainsaw massacre in this wood  Wink
I will hold and watch this coin further. 

Thanks for your report PVmining! 
Unfortunately I have not heard much back from the community on how the chainsaws work.  Personally I prefer the axe as well so I understand your hesitance.  Judging by the amount of sawdust in the air and the noise pollution, it looks like a few of you tried using them but nobody has undertook serious operations.  Don't be bashful, remember we are working with the blessing of the Lorax and the Ents on this project.   

I am still not adding to the OP or website materials until I hear back more from the community. 

Happy chopping --

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April 24, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
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Funk,

I have tried everything to create a vanity address using vanitygen with namespace 73 (W). For some reason, the resulting private key is not actually the address that Woodcoin imports. What's up with that?

(Am I using the wrong namespace)?

Which version of vanitygen are you using?  I'm not sure I follow. 

Thanks for reminding me bitillionaire, I never finished modding the vanitygen in my github repo.  Remember woodcoin uses a different elliptic curve than all other coins (that I know of) so the algo which goes from privkey -> pubkey  is different (as well as the usual first character modification).  If you want to play around with keys, use logaddress.org (working) (wallet details) and see what different privkeys get you.   

After some travels I am now back on the scene like a record machine (sayin' ooh-papa-doo, how y'all do), so hopefully I can get you a working LOG vanitygen in the next few days.  Please let me know if anyone has one working in the meantime.   


Ah, well that would explain it.

I had the same result on all three versions I could track down.

Which lines need to be modified to account for the new elliptic curve? I didn't realize that this would extend to the way addresses are generated, but it makes sense in hindsight.

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April 30, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
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Hi Lumberjacks,

how do I setup ccminer to chop some logs?
I have win 8.1 64bit with a nvidia geforce
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April 30, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
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Hey there acquafredda,

I would recommend pool mining, at least at first, to make sure your setup is in good working order. Solo mining will work fine as well, but somewhat more complicated to get going and takes longer to confirm that everything is correctly configured (because, variance).

You didn't mention which card model you have, so note that only recent gen cards are supported, compute 3.0 or higher (series 7xx or newer).
Go right ahead and try this miner:
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases

The only pool that I'm aware is Suprnova:
https://wood.suprnova.cc/index.php

Sample miner launch string:
ccminer -a skein2 -o stratum+tcp://wood.suprnova.cc:1158 -u <username.worker> -p <password>

Happy Mining Chopping!

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Hey there acquafredda,

I would recommend pool mining, at least at first, to make sure your setup is in good working order. Solo mining will work fine as well, but somewhat more complicated to get going and takes longer to confirm that everything is correctly configured (because, variance).

You didn't mention which card model you have, so note that only recent gen cards are supported, compute 3.0 or higher (series 7xx or newer).
Go right ahead and try this miner:
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases

The only pool that I'm aware is Suprnova:
https://wood.suprnova.cc/index.php

Sample miner launch string:
ccminer -a skein2 -o stratum+tcp://wood.suprnova.cc:1158 -u <username.worker> -p <password>

Happy Mining Chopping!

Ok I'll give it a try.
Thanks, very helpful
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Woodcoin the future?
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Hey there acquafredda,

I would recommend pool mining, at least at first, to make sure your setup is in good working order. Solo mining will work fine as well, but somewhat more complicated to get going and takes longer to confirm that everything is correctly configured (because, variance).

You didn't mention which card model you have, so note that only recent gen cards are supported, compute 3.0 or higher (series 7xx or newer).
Go right ahead and try this miner:
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases

The only pool that I'm aware is Suprnova:
https://wood.suprnova.cc/index.php

Sample miner launch string:
ccminer -a skein2 -o stratum+tcp://wood.suprnova.cc:1158 -u <username.worker> -p <password>

Happy Mining Chopping!

Maybe this explains why I'm only finding a bundle or two every other day in my chopping via VPS...

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May 01, 2015, 08:00:08 AM
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Woodcoin the future?

Haven't seen any Skein ASICs for sale yet, have ya?

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is anyone having trouble with transactions ;c 0/6 confirmations for 2 hours
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