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November 10, 2014, 10:14:56 AM
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Another article from CryptoArticles:

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/element-coin-developer-inovatium-ceo-provides-proof-of-identity-video
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November 10, 2014, 10:30:37 AM
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This looks like a scam for me. I don't believe the video, the about me, or the "company".
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November 10, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
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This looks like a scam for me. I don't believe the video, the about me, or the "company".
Hello. Would you care to elaborate?

It would give your opinion some merit, and we could answer to your concerns.
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November 10, 2014, 11:44:21 AM
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This looks like a scam for me. I don't believe the video, the about me, or the "company".
http://www.bizi.si/INOVATIUM-D-O-O/maticno-podjetje/
http://www.itis.si/INOVATIUM-RACUNALNISKO-PROGRAMIRANJE
http://www.pirs.si/Subject/Info/689612/inovatium-racunalnisko-programiranje-doo
http://www.ebonitete.si/inovatium-doo/1313167/

try googling " Inovatium d.o.o." guys.
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November 10, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
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Could be legit for all I know but an ICO before you have so much as a screenshot or a tiny clip of the game to show... Reeks of ulterior motives, sadly.

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November 10, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
Last edit: November 19, 2014, 04:58:43 AM by twarlock
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Could be legit for all I know but an ICO before you have so much as a screenshot or a tiny clip of the game to show... Reeks of ulterior motives, sadly.
OK, lets say just for the sake of argument that we don't have any game done yet - absolute 0. Why would that reek of ulterior motives?
We have a plan, we have all the tools, we have a team of coders and a team of designers ... why wouldn't that be a viable plan?
So ... in this case we need the money to pay for the work that will be done, and to buy more and better equipment.

If this ICO is successful at least +20 people would get a job on a permanent basis, a team of designers would get hired, some other people that can help with different skills would get work, ...

Why does it reek of ulterior motives?

There will be a trailer finished in UE 4.5 until the end of the week
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November 10, 2014, 06:07:49 PM
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There is 15% bonus on element coins on the ICO for the next 6hrs and each day 1% less until the ICO ends. https://ico.elementcoin.io/
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November 10, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Last edit: November 10, 2014, 11:40:24 PM by devvienuis
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This looks like a scam for me. I don't believe the video, the about me, or the "company".

Well... They just invented a new kind of ID Proof... On a new level I might add...

I quote Zlatko:
"One of my brothers is Milan Pesic and he plays football semi-professionally (soccer to Americans)"

I got some photos with Zlatko & his youngest son with Milan and his two older kids. Not real proof of course (could be fan promo photos - but with the kids? semi-amateur...?). So I don't have many doubts I must say...! We've got ID, social profiles, addresses, registered corporation, ... I think we can safely get past the "are you real" questions at this point. They are real. It's too elaborate not to be. And we have the Proof of Identity video where we can see Zlatko talk about the ideas and plans.

I'm still trying to convince Zlatko to also offer an Escrow (without discount - Escrows cost). I hope he makes a definite decision soon... And remember; while no official structure in place, when the ICO fails to gather enough money there will be a refund. So while there are no refunds on an individual basis, there is a general refund when the game ("Supremacy Online") will not be started yet.

If there is enough money to just create the coin (which has some unique features), the coin will *not* be made and an ICO refund will still take place. Zlatko sees no point in "just" another altcoin, though Elementcoin would have some unique features to keep mining fair for everybody, not just the big riggs. Ultimately, Elementcoin is an *addition* to Supremacy Online. Only then Element would gain real value (again, according to Zlatko).

For now, your ICO investment would go to the plans to build this all. They have been working for a long time on this (my secret developer has been in contact with them for a few months now, *not* through me but through another contact of mine). If you think an online game, built on Unreal, with Crypto in mind and smart anti-dump and value adding features (trading, selling self-created in-game objects) which might gather its own economy (designers, modelers, gamers) is a good idea, then you should invest. And you should invest serious amounts. You are not buying some coins, you are investing in a serious project on a scale like that of Syscoin (yes I know ;p).

In return Elelement team will use all the contacts it has gathered to create the vision *they* have in mind. The game can start with 1 planet: community can build the rest (in return for crypto). They studied, investigated and know what is needed. What kind of programmers they should hire, whom to hire. Preparing a serious business takes a serious amount of time and effort. So yes, there is no wallet yet nor a game nor fancy graphics - only a grand vision and detailed plans for something fun and new. THAT is what you will invest your money in. If no game can be build, BTC will be returned. We know their name, we have their number ;p

Peace!

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PS: do take a look at "ICO Analysis Supremacy Online Game: Unreal 4 engine and build-in #Element crypto"
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November 11, 2014, 01:20:31 AM
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Thank you for the kind words Devvie Smiley
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November 11, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
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Nice coin. I'm in!
I think to invest 65.3 BTC

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November 11, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
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Nice coin. I'm in!
I think to invest 65.3 BTC
go ahead, so we can give people their money back.
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November 12, 2014, 12:18:10 AM
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don't forget to follow us on twitter guys https://twitter.com/elementcoin =)
i'm https://twitter.com/CryptoFlips
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November 12, 2014, 05:40:48 AM
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Nice to see all the Suport:-)
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November 12, 2014, 07:57:41 AM
Last edit: November 12, 2014, 08:11:37 AM by Zlate
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Nice to see all the Suport:-)
How can this guy have two accounts with the same name? Shocked

Moderators really can't or just won't do anything about that, and why is that even allowed?

Since I'm already asking - how can it be tolerated that someone does what he did and he even keeps making fun of people  Huh
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November 12, 2014, 08:32:09 AM
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Nice to see all the Suport:-)
How can this guy have two accounts with the same name? Shocked

Moderators really can't or just won't do anything about that, and why is that even allowed?

Since I'm already asking - how can it be tolerated that someone does what he did and he even keeps making fun of people  Huh

Two accounts with the same name? How is this possible?
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November 12, 2014, 08:37:33 AM
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Its not the same name. The second account is written with a 0 (zero) and the old with O (like Oscar).

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November 12, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
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Nice to see all the Suport:-)
How can this guy have two accounts with the same name? Shocked

Moderators really can't or just won't do anything about that, and why is that even allowed?

Since I'm already asking - how can it be tolerated that someone does what he did and he even keeps making fun of people  Huh

Two accounts with the same name? How is this possible?

Replaced the letter "O" to zero, or a mixture of Latin and Cyrillic.
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November 12, 2014, 09:38:57 AM
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Do you know from where I enter this topic?
Check this scam topic :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746191.0

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November 12, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
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Do you know from where I enter this topic?
Check this scam topic :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746191.0

 Roll Eyes  This is from that thread you came from:

not every ICO is a scam but ppl like this ruin it for the good guys.

Every ICO is a scam one way or another. The idea that people invest into a concept that hasn't been proven yet in return of an Intial Coin Offering sounds nothing more than a scam itself.
Is kickstarter a scam? before that it was developers adding stuff in coins and pump it to get paid.

You don't get my point, kickstarter campaigns are not ICOs, they're crowdfunding campaigns and usualy the people that create them are using their real identity and the concept they're gathering money for has already been proven or is close to doing so. Big bold differences there.

But that's just a couple of sentences there. You can also have a look at this article-like post I made, describing why I believe ICOs have ultimately no reason to exist in the first place.
we are not hiding behind our screen here as you can see. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=836498.80

Feel free to ask if something bothers you.
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November 16, 2014, 01:19:06 AM
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I received a question to my mail:

If I ask you to explain your project in 7 simple sentences. Would you be able to do so?
That should include the description of the idea, target audience, monetization, steps to be taken for that and what you are offering to buy and giving in return.


My answer:

1. We made a coin, that is more secure and suited to the gamers particulary and is intended to be used in our online game.
2. If you buy our coin you are actually investing in a MMO/RPG/FPS game that is being developed on Unreal engine 4.
3. You will be able to use those coins as a currency in a game, exchange them on markets or pay for something in our online shop.
4. Game will be called Supremacy online and it will provide a platform for gamers to play and earn at the same time, and for designers to earn by contributing their designs to the game.5. By investing 1 Bitcoin or more you will be entitled to a profit made in online shop, from our mining pool and most importantly from the profit that the game makes.
6. We calculated we need 400 BTC to make a demo game and then go to Kickstarter for additional funds, or 800 BTC to make the whole game.
7. We have six C++ programmers with 10+ years of coding experience and are negotating with two teams of 20+ 3D designers with plenty experience who would be willing to work with us.
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