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[iGotSpots]

Fees are really insane:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SXXHWh8u9wsVn8y7Bu6pXyHpxrwb5c6FSP",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -14739.29010300,
        "fee" : -275.20000000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "1c4a1570527fd4cf030a9232d33e7ebfcd239b375852a11be69dad2e1220ea20",
        "time" : 1414915145
    }

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SbMvFFt9RJuy2BHCZ6Ti73WCFL1sZNk5Fi",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -16210.22668000,
        "fee" : -309.77332000,
        "confirmations" : 5,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000094851785600b0eee63c06d266f733bb2e351f711a37c75973fb",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "ad256f5d7009ece490242138ac4abf32368094f2bef993790937c3602178b356",
        "time" : 1414914910
    },


How can I calculate the fees ? If I let withdrawals open it'll eat up the pools wallet - as I was calculating fixed 6.4 coins peer withdrawals.

But > 300 coins per withdrawal (thats almost 10 blocks from the coin just for sending coins ) ..  

Yes, it feels harsh right now, but once the 5000% PoS starts kicking, they will be minimal in comparison to fight massive inflation

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[werum]

mu wallet not sinh
last 5 hours

[johan11]

mu wallet not sinh
last 5 hours

new wallet version on OP

[iGotSpots]

mu wallet not sinh
last 5 hours

Download the new client. Make sure you are on 1.0.3 - Anyone who did NOT update today will not sync as everyone who has updated is rejecting your connection

[ocminer]

Fees are really insane:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SXXHWh8u9wsVn8y7Bu6pXyHpxrwb5c6FSP",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -14739.29010300,
        "fee" : -275.20000000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "1c4a1570527fd4cf030a9232d33e7ebfcd239b375852a11be69dad2e1220ea20",
        "time" : 1414915145
    }

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SbMvFFt9RJuy2BHCZ6Ti73WCFL1sZNk5Fi",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -16210.22668000,
        "fee" : -309.77332000,
        "confirmations" : 5,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000094851785600b0eee63c06d266f733bb2e351f711a37c75973fb",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "ad256f5d7009ece490242138ac4abf32368094f2bef993790937c3602178b356",
        "time" : 1414914910
    },


How can I calculate the fees ? If I let withdrawals open it'll eat up the pools wallet - as I was calculating fixed 6.4 coins peer withdrawals.

But > 300 coins per withdrawal (thats almost 10 blocks from the coin just for sending coins ) ..  

Yes, it feels harsh right now, but once the 5000% PoS starts kicking, they will be minimal in comparison to fight massive inflation

Hmm, then i'll probably have to wait until staking kicks in - otherwise I don't have enough funds to payout the miners as the payouts eat up themselves ?!

[thefix]

Okay i've did some tests and a withdrawal of 10 and 100 coins yielded a fee of 6.4 coins per withdrawal which is quite a lot still.

I've updated and opened manual withdrawals now, you can withdraw your funds now, just make sure you're not doing lots of small withdrawals as your coins will be "eaten up" by the fees. Do one (or two) large payments to your wallet.

As soon as some withdrawals have been made and everything went fine I'll update here.

Trying a withdraw now, not seeing the manual payout option as usual

[ocminer]

Okay i've did some tests and a withdrawal of 10 and 100 coins yielded a fee of 6.4 coins per withdrawal which is quite a lot still.

I've updated and opened manual withdrawals now, you can withdraw your funds now, just make sure you're not doing lots of small withdrawals as your coins will be "eaten up" by the fees. Do one (or two) large payments to your wallet.

As soon as some withdrawals have been made and everything went fine I'll update here.

Trying a withdraw now, not seeing the manual payout option as usual

Yes i had to disable it again because of the horrendous fee which was put onto the withdrawal .. Currently figuring out what to do best

[ocminer]

my fee was only 6.5 coins for 5280 withdrawl

Yes that is what the pool charged you, but the network charged me > 150 coins

[HunterS]

my fee was only 6.5 coins for 5280 withdrawl

Yes that is what the pool charged you, but the network charged me > 150 coins

oh.I see.that sucks

[thefix]

Okay i've did some tests and a withdrawal of 10 and 100 coins yielded a fee of 6.4 coins per withdrawal which is quite a lot still.

I've updated and opened manual withdrawals now, you can withdraw your funds now, just make sure you're not doing lots of small withdrawals as your coins will be "eaten up" by the fees. Do one (or two) large payments to your wallet.

As soon as some withdrawals have been made and everything went fine I'll update here.

Trying a withdraw now, not seeing the manual payout option as usual

Yes i had to disable it again because of the horrendous fee which was put onto the withdrawal .. Currently figuring out what to do best

All good, sounds like we need fees dropped short term to make it fair for everyone to get things off pools.

[ocminer]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

[thefix]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

I am willing to pay whatever fee you think is fair and you can take the 100 coins out of my account to make up for your loss.

[iGotSpots]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

[thefix]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

[HunterS]

i will send you coiuns back for fee bro.I dont mind.what address.

[HunterS]

also i sent 100 coins to HashNZ and they never turned up.a blockexplorer would be nice.i would negotiate a bounty for one.

[iGotSpots]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking

[HunterS]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking

i think people should understand and just pay the fee.I will pay ocminer back the fee

[HunterS]

where the hell do you open a ticket or support on HashNZ trading site?

[iGotSpots]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking

i think people should understand and just pay the fee.I will pay ocminer back the fee

I appreciate you stepping up, too. We need to get the coins off of all 4 pools as quickly as possible and into the hands of those who want to stake it tomorrow

We have HunterS and myself offering to help pay pool fees on top of any mining fees, if applicable, to help speed it up. We have 3 pool ops that haven't responded yet to whether they are updated or not