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[thefix]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking

i think people should understand and just pay the fee.I will pay ocminer back the fee

I agree 100% I am down with paying whatever fee is fair, and I applaud you for doing the right thing with ocminer

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[HunterS]

PM me and address ocminer and i will send coins.I guessing its 108.29639900 -the 6.5 which would be 101.796399(i will just make it 102)

[ILoveBigBlackCocks]

Damn it.  This sucks.  If your coins aren't gaining weight in a wallet right now, they are virtually worthless.

Not ocminer's fault.  It's just shitty.  At the very least this damn coin should have a reliable way to calculate fees.  Thats all it would need to avoid this whole mess.

[iGotSpots]

The formula is the same as PPC, just use 6400000 instead of 10000 to calculate the amount

• Coin-Miners
• Hardcore Miners
• SteamOctane

These three pools still need to confirm they are updated. I highly suggest not mining on anyone who has not updated, as you are just mining on your own fork

[iGotSpots]

Damn it.  This sucks.  If your coins aren't gaining weight in a wallet right now, they are virtually worthless.

Not true. Staking does not begin earning weight for a few more hours

[thefix]

The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -5281.70360100,
        "fee" : -108.29639900,
        "confirmations" : 51,
        "blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
        "time" : 1414913467
    },

and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..

So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.

Post an address

Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?

I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking

i think people should understand and just pay the fee.I will pay ocminer back the fee

I appreciate you stepping up, too. We need to get the coins off of all 4 pools as quickly as possible and into the hands of those who want to stake it tomorrow

We have HunterS and myself offering to help pay pool fees on top of any mining fees, if applicable, to help speed it up. We have 3 pool ops that haven't responded yet to whether they are updated or not

I really feel like staking should be postponed until pool owners get a chance to catch up and update things, otherwise its really a waste for everyone who mined it. Pool owners that stake with everybodys coins will have a really unfair advantage.

[HunterS]

balls made it to HashNZ exchange.Sweet

[iGotSpots]

I really feel like staking should be postponed until pool owners get a chance to catch up and update things, otherwise its really a waste for everyone who mined it. Pool owners that stake with everybodys coins will have a really unfair advantage.

I'm not happy about it, either. I have coins tied up in the pools just like everyone else, which is why I'm offering to help pay fees for myself and some other people out of my own pocket if the ops can't calculate them accurately. The fee formula is the same as PPC, just with increased values. I'm doing my best to help you guys get your coins ASAP, but I don't run any of the pools

If the pool ops are not updated, they are not on the right fork anyway. If they have updated, but still have withdraws closed, then that is a whole different issue. So far only ocminer has responded

[thefix]

I really feel like staking should be postponed until pool owners get a chance to catch up and update things, otherwise its really a waste for everyone who mined it. Pool owners that stake with everybodys coins will have a really unfair advantage.

I'm not happy about it, either. I have coins tied up in the pools just like everyone else, which is why I'm offering to help pay fees for myself and some other people out of my own pocket if the ops can't calculate them accurately. The fee formula is the same as PPC, just with increased values. I'm doing my best to help you guys get your coins ASAP, but I don't run any of the pools

If the pool ops are not updated, they are not on the right fork anyway. If they have updated, but still have withdraws closed, then that is a whole different issue. So far only ocminer has responded

Yep the majority of what I have is on ocminers pool ---- suprnova

Unfortunately he still has payouts disabled

[iGotSpots]

Trying to track down coin-miners right now on here and in IRC

Steamoctane looks down to me

[fabula]

Sorry,
Fee are to high. Ho can i withdrawl my coins from pools if i have less then 300 coin and i need to pay 300 coin as fee? Difficulty is high,is still minable, but i will not reach 300 coins for poW end.
Please help.

[iGotSpots]

Sorry,
Fee are to high. Ho can i withdrawl my coins from pools if i have less then 300 coin and i need to pay 300 coin as fee? Difficulty is high,is still minable, but i will not reach 300 coins for poW end.
Please help.

Fees start at 6.4 coins and go up based on size (not amount). They are only paying 300 in fees because there are 15k+ coins being moved at once

[HunterS]

Sorry,
Fee are to high. Ho can i withdrawl my coins from pools if i have less then 300 coin and i need to pay 300 coin as fee? Difficulty is high,is still minable, but i will not reach 300 coins for poW end.
Please help.

i dont think your fee will be that high on 300 coins.i sent 100 to HashNZ and the fee was 6.5

[crypto4jan]

Ok follow this coin.
When it hits an exchange I want to buy some.

[fabula]

Sorry,
Fee are to high. Ho can i withdrawl my coins from pools if i have less then 300 coin and i need to pay 300 coin as fee? Difficulty is high,is still minable, but i will not reach 300 coins for poW end.
Please help.

Fees start at 6.4 coins and go up based on size (not amount). They are only paying 300 in fees because there are 15k+ coins being moved at once

Ok,so i need to wait suprnova to withdrawl enable

[HunterS]

Ok follow this coin.
When it hits an exchange I want to buy some.

its on 2 bro.Do you read and OP before posting?

[iGotSpots]

Sorry,
Fee are to high. Ho can i withdrawl my coins from pools if i have less then 300 coin and i need to pay 300 coin as fee? Difficulty is high,is still minable, but i will not reach 300 coins for poW end.
Please help.

Fees start at 6.4 coins and go up based on size (not amount). They are only paying 300 in fees because there are 15k+ coins being moved at once

Ok,so i need to wait suprnova to withdrawl enable

Yep

[thefix]

Trying to track down coin-miners right now on here and in IRC

Steamoctane looks down to me

That would rock, I have a decent amount on that pool also

[iGotSpots]

Trying to track down coin-miners right now on here and in IRC

Steamoctane looks down to me

That would rock, I have a decent amount on that pool also

Doing my best. It's 4 AM here (even with my free hour). Trying to get everyone their coins so they are ready to stake before I go to bed

[fabula]

I appreciate your work so far (at 4 a.m.)

I need following informations:

-I need to update also my wallet?  I have downloaded and synced yesterday
-Waiting news from suprnova to know when i can withdrawl my coins
-Let us know following days how you hardware will work with 5000% stake. Seems high stake and could stress a little the hardware,but i think this is mainly reason why you have create this coin. So,any result is appreciate.