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May 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
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May 30, 2012, 08:01:01 PM
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Watching with interest

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May 30, 2012, 08:24:10 PM
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Sounds like a presidential speech.  I'm in.

What will you do about terrorists?

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May 30, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
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Watching very closely  Smiley
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May 30, 2012, 09:35:06 PM
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Nice speech, bought the remaining discounted shares.  Good luck Smiley

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May 31, 2012, 02:47:43 AM
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Excessive hyperbole, eloquent phrasing, exemplary word choice, and most importantly the above sentence.

Serena, I salute you.

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June 01, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
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hmm, who cares about 30% price drop if you can get 2%-6.8% interest per week? :-) BTW price of Gigamining shares went back up as it has quite high ROI, and additionally, the ask side almost didn't move at all
but nevertheless, I wish you good luck and happy investors with your fund  Wink
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June 01, 2012, 08:02:15 AM
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It's also about investing in what you want to support. In mining, which helps secure the network, or in ponzi schemes and drug dealing.

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June 01, 2012, 08:22:21 AM
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hmm, who cares about 30% price drop if you can get 2%-6.8% interest per week? :-) BTW price of Gigamining shares went back up as it has quite high ROI, and additionally, the ask side almost didn't move at all
but nevertheless, I wish you good luck and happy investors with your fund  Wink

We own 140 shares of Gigamining, but the point is we also own positions of comparable size in many miners -- some of which pay out higher than gigamining. In the end you get the same dividend, but it's more stable. It's a pass through -- if we get 5 bitcoins in dividends from gigamining, we pay out 5 bitcoins in dividends to our shareholders. The benefit for YOU is as stated; strength through diversity.

That being said, yes, there is a demand for high yield financial bonds. May I suggest Gamma Bitcoin Fund, for a very profitable BMF-like fund which also invests in pirate bonds and other high-yield instruments? Your risk will be reduced if you let a fund manager handle diversity and trading for you. There are other funds similar to Gamma Bitcoin Fund too. I hear MU is good. It's run by friedcat who is a pretty cool guy. So check out GBF and MU, if you want a higher yield fund.

Well, I can handle my portfolio by myself, but thanks for the offer Cool
BTW, letting someone else manage your money is an additional risk. Do you work alone? What if some meteorite hits you on the street for instance?  Cheesy
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June 01, 2012, 01:38:19 PM
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hmm, who cares about 30% price drop if you can get 2%-6.8% interest per week? :-) BTW price of Gigamining shares went back up as it has quite high ROI, and additionally, the ask side almost didn't move at all
but nevertheless, I wish you good luck and happy investors with your fund  Wink

We own 140 shares of Gigamining, but the point is we also own positions of comparable size in many miners -- some of which pay out higher than gigamining. In the end you get the same dividend, but it's more stable. It's a pass through -- if we get 5 bitcoins in dividends from gigamining, we pay out 5 bitcoins in dividends to our shareholders. The benefit for YOU is as stated; strength through diversity.

That being said, yes, there is a demand for high yield financial bonds. May I suggest Gamma Bitcoin Fund, for a very profitable BMF-like fund which also invests in pirate bonds and other high-yield instruments? Your risk will be reduced if you let a fund manager handle diversity and trading for you. There are other funds similar to Gamma Bitcoin Fund too. I hear MU is good. It's run by friedcat who is a pretty cool guy. So check out GBF and MU, if you want a higher yield fund.

Thanks for your advertisement in your own thread. If I were you I wouldn't do this. Wink

By the way, MU was only slightly Pirate related and recently turned to be totally away from Pirate.

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June 01, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
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Ultimately, I respect your position, funds are not for everyone. Obviously, a professional investor would be able to manage his own risk and walk away not paying the 5% of profits management fee. There are other issues however, such as, we can often get 10, 15 and 20% off a price because we buy 500, 1000 and 2,000 shares at a time. I pass this value along to investors. Plus, by virtue of our size, once we get a position we have no need to trade it and can wait it out to matutity while we buy into other investments. A lot of smaller investors mill their accounts, even unintentionally because they maintain small positions and look for short term gains of 30% or so. We take a much longer view and we pass this value on to our shareholders as well. Plus, it takes a long time to do research and get a good position and get a good investment in the first place. Have you factored in paying yourself to do this work? These and many other "unseen" costs will hurt your performance in the long run. But like I said, funds aren't for everyone. Some people actually enjoy doing due dilligence. Look at me, I run a fund.  Grin

Well, regarding low liquidity on GLBSE and low market cap of assets there, it might be very risky to get lot of shares of one particular asset (500, 1000, 2000). You might not be able to sell them soon, or maybe even never at a decent price. Market is not established well and conditions might change a lot. So it may pay out to be flexible these days.
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