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November 05, 2014, 07:12:35 AM
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If President Obama suffered a “shellacking” in the 2010 elections, then what he endured Tuesday night was nothing short of a  vicious gangland beatdown the likes of which have rarely been seen before in the history of electoral politics.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/hurt-america-faces-most-dangerous-two-years-150-ye/





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November 05, 2014, 03:11:48 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.
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November 05, 2014, 04:21:43 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...

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November 05, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.
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November 05, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I don't quite know what you are referring to here, but the premise of your argument is silly. You are saying that you would prefer the republicans because they are not quite as bad as the democrats (although that's debatable). This is a false choice between bad and badder and I don't understand why you would be happy because a slightly less evil party (again, debatable) wins more seats. You can barely get a cigarette paper between them and rather than settling for second worst, you should be campaigning for real change to the political system rather than accepting the false choice between two puppets.
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November 05, 2014, 04:46:29 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Wise words.
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November 05, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah. 

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.
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November 05, 2014, 05:16:13 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah.  

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.

But that is not the point we are making, just because the democrats are corrupt is not a reason to vote for an equally corrupt party. After all, it's not as if the republicans haven't had more than their share of corrupt politicians, remember the last republican president, a tyrant and war criminal that was responsible for the deaths of millions of people based on a pack of lies. Let's not forget, he wasn't even fairly elected, he got fewer votes than Al Gore but still became president, some democracy.
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November 05, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah.  

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.

But that is not the point we are making, just because the democrats are corrupt is not a reason to vote for an equally corrupt party. After all, it's not as if the republicans haven't had more than their share of corrupt politicians, remember the last republican president, a tyrant and war criminal that was responsible for the deaths of millions of people based on a pack of lies. Let's not forget, he wasn't even fairly elected, he got fewer votes than Al Gore but still became president, some democracy.


the US is not a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic.


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November 05, 2014, 06:59:06 PM
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Obama has lost nearly 70 House seats since taking office

President Obama has lost nearly 70 seats in the House since taking office and more seats in midterm elections than any president since Harry Truman.

Democrats have suffered a net loss of at least 69 House seats since 2008, with the possibility that Republicans could pick up even more seats as the final 2014 midterm races are called.

Senate Democrats have not fared much better, losing a net of at least 13 seats since Obama took office.

Midterm elections have been brutal for congressional Democrats in the Obama era. The party lost at least 77 seats in the midterms in 2010 and 2014, though they gained back eight seats in 2012.

Obama has already surpassed President Dwight Eisenhower’s tally of 66 midterm losses in the House, according to data published by the Rothenberg Political Report. Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman both lost more House seats during their midterm years.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/223047-obama-has-lost-nearly-70-house-seats-since-taking-office#.VFpogWq_2cM.twitter

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November 05, 2014, 07:22:53 PM
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Republicans, Conservatives. Please do remember as you are urged to act in a ‘bipartisan way’, what you have been called.

Here’s a list, compiled by Louisiana Mom since 2009, of names used for Republicans and Conservatives by Democrats and media:

Enemy, paranoid, greedy, Bible-thumping, gun-toting, fear-mongering, racist, sexist, bigot, birther, redneck, homophobic, xenophobic, global-warming denialists, anti-science, Neanderthal, barbarian, terrorist, hobbits, member of the Flat Earth Society, Nazi, bully, Yosemite Sam hillbilly, beer-toting, pot belly, church going, small-minded, whack-job, Evangelical, gun nuts, wing nut, knuckle-dragger, clueless, Teabaggers, narrow-minded, evil, redneck freaks, judgmental, backwards, sick, anti-intellectualist, slut-shaming, slimebuckets, forced-birther, neocons, Zionist, neo-Confederate, wild nasty hard-right fringe, extremist, sewer rats, wacko birds, bitter clingers, misogynist, you suck, Obamaphobic, chirper, white nativist, crazies, creepy azz cracka, unpatriotic, white grievance, dumb, cracker, white devils, rabid, squealing political pigs, anarchist, fanatics, extortionists, lemmings, gangsters, murderers, banana republicans, fakers, ideological crusader, Cruzites, anti-government idealoges, fraud, Taliban, arsonist, suicide bombers, suicidal lemmings, spoiled children, hostage takers, overlords, Jihadist, blowhard, religious fanatic, freedom fiend, kidnappers, Jesus freaks, dangerous, troglodyte, from the Planet of the Apes, resurrection of the Confederacy, lemmings with suicide vests, anarchy gang, idiots, wife abusers, frightened white people, right-wing loonies, tea-hadist, tea-tards, segregationist, freaking retarded, morally disgusting, Confederate flag-waving, breeders, Robert E. Lee lovers, Southern white radicals, losers, violent rapist, blathering idiots, climate change deniers, way crazy, racist killers, rabid animals, Cro-magnon, cave dwellers, narrow-minded, toddler, headless chicken brigade, monkeys, morons, virus, teapub, Christofascists, healthcare repealers, gun-crazed, wide-eyed creatures, bed-wetting kidult, climate fool, Trotskyite radicalists, Dixiecrats, willfully ignorant fucksticks, anti-Obama, Huns, nutcases, pseudo-militia of gun-toting nutcases, lunatic, and radical terrorist

http://weaselzippers.us/204592-republicans-remember-this-when-democrats-now-urge-bipartisanship/

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November 05, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah.  

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.

But that is not the point we are making, just because the democrats are corrupt is not a reason to vote for an equally corrupt party. After all, it's not as if the republicans haven't had more than their share of corrupt politicians, remember the last republican president, a tyrant and war criminal that was responsible for the deaths of millions of people based on a pack of lies. Let's not forget, he wasn't even fairly elected, he got fewer votes than Al Gore but still became president, some democracy.


the US is not a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic.




That doesn't change the fact that George Bush got fewer votes than Al Gore yet still became president, so rather than being stupid and pedantic, how about actually arguing a point of principle or are you incapable of that. As for your rambling list of what democrats have called republicans, so what, what is your point? You also conveniently left a list of names from republicans to democrats. It would seem you are here just as another puppet and mouthpiece for republicans rather than actually debating on principle.
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November 05, 2014, 08:19:49 PM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah.  

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.

What's your point here? Accept the lesser evil because you have no choice, but feel good about how marginally less bad your guys is over Obama? I agree with the other guy, stop voting for evil. You know why the country is so messed up? Because both republicans and democrats know you don't have a choice. You get pissed at the asshats running the country, then you vote the lesser asshat into office. Then when he screws up, you put the first idiot back in charge. Then you play stupid games like "my idiot is less dumb than your idiot." And you feel good about that? That's your victory?

No wonder the two party system can't be broken. You're too busy celebrating your small "victories" rather than demanding better options.

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What's your point here? Accept the lesser evil because you have no choice, but feel good about how marginally less bad your guys is over Obama? I agree with the other guy, stop voting for evil. You know why the country is so messed up? Because both republicans and democrats know you don't have a choice. You get pissed at the asshats running the country, then you vote the lesser asshat into office. Then when he screws up, you put the first idiot back in charge. Then you play stupid games like "my idiot is less dumb than your idiot." And you feel good about that? That's your victory?

No wonder the two party system can't be broken. You're too busy celebrating your small "victories" rather than demanding better options.
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Well said, at least there are some sane people on here capable of thinking for themselves, I'm not even from the U.S and it angers me how some people in the U.S just blindly follow a party regardless of what they stand for just because they are not the other party, what a total farce.
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November 05, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
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You know why the country is so messed up? Because both republicans and democrats know you don't have a choice.

No wonder the two party system can't be broken. You're too busy celebrating your small "victories" rather than demanding better options.

I took two parts of your quote a little out of context, but I just wanted to put them side by side for emphasis.
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November 05, 2014, 10:22:49 PM
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You know why the country is so messed up? Because both republicans and democrats know you don't have a choice.

No wonder the two party system can't be broken. You're too busy celebrating your small "victories" rather than demanding better options.

I took two parts of your quote a little out of context, but I just wanted to put them side by side for emphasis.

I believe he/she meant to say No wonder the two party system CAN be broken as a counter argument...

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November 06, 2014, 12:24:50 AM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

I rather have a republican slower moving destructive steam locomotive train than a democrat high speed destructive bullet train controlled by an analphabet engineer...



I'd rather not have the train derailing in the first place. People celebrating the 'republican victory' today are part of the problem.

The lesser evil is still evil. Stop voting for evil.

Bah.  

The number of totally disgusting things associated with Obama cannot be morally equalized with this perverse logic.

Bengazi.
Fast and Furious.
IRS targeting of conservative groups.

Thousands more scandals and lies.  Thousands.

But that is not the point we are making, just because the democrats are corrupt is not a reason to vote for an equally corrupt party. After all, it's not as if the republicans haven't had more than their share of corrupt politicians, remember the last republican president, a tyrant and war criminal that was responsible for the deaths of millions of people based on a pack of lies. Let's not forget, he wasn't even fairly elected, he got fewer votes than Al Gore but still became president, some democracy.
Well you want my opinion?  It is not that what you are saying is untrue, but neither is what I said untrue.  Neither are they mutually exclusive.

You've just seen massive voting AGAINST OBAMA, and it was being taken out on Democrats, because he was associated with them. 

The reasons for this is the incipient fascism and totalitarian nature of his actions.

People do not want his vision of America.

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November 06, 2014, 07:01:22 AM
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I don't see how replacing democrats with republicans can be considered a good thing, they are two cheeks of the same backside that both sell their principles (or lack thereof) to the highest bidder.

It's always been like that. They just put to power the party who looks better for the public and they continue doing their game while covering it up with some sugar. It's the same in every country where people are stupid enough (https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Images/Infographics/perils_slides_infographic-index-of-ignorance-12_lightbox.jpg). So let's just stop saying its because of the system and because of politicians, we are the weak link here.
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November 06, 2014, 08:25:43 AM
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How is it ignorant to have a self-preservation instinct and not wage a civil war where you will almost certainly bleed, regardless of the result of tyrants vs liberators?

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 06, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
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You know why the country is so messed up? Because both republicans and democrats know you don't have a choice.

No wonder the two party system can't be broken. You're too busy celebrating your small "victories" rather than demanding better options.

I took two parts of your quote a little out of context, but I just wanted to put them side by side for emphasis.

I believe he/she meant to say No wonder the two party system CAN be broken as a counter argument...



Given that Obama has been trying to destroy the separation of powers, given that he has hundreds of times taken action that is constitutionally the domain of Congress, given the Stasi like intimidation atmosphere he has fostered with his abuse of the IRS as a political tool, I think he was doing nothing but aiming to destroy the two party system.

Babble about "both parties are the same, both parties are just as corrupt" completely ignored that the people (from all parties) have just stood up and said...

"No, Mr. Obama, you are not a king."

But the next two years will be extremely dangerous.
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