Arrested for feeding homeless people

[awesome31312]

This has nothing to do with the minimum wage. It's about how we have evolved to a fascist police state.

[awesome31312]

He got another citation
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/undeterred-by-arrest-90-year-old-florida-man-gets-another-citation-for-feeding-the-homeless/

[Hendrick0909]

feeding homeless is quite noble act and at the age of 90 it's amazing...... i mean they should appreciate the old fellow instead of putting him to jail

[u9y42]

How do you know these people cannot survive on their own?  What if they are just lazy, like dank?  If a city has provided services to a person for a couple years and they are able to work but unwilling, why should the city keep paying for those services?

I agree 100%. If you continue to feed the homeless then they will have no incentive to improve their lives and get a job, ect.  [...]

I find this kind of myopia amazing; it's kind of like the "it's your fault that you're poor", even if you work several jobs and still barely make enough to feed your family.

I wonder if you would hold on to those views if you were to become homeless one day - or do you think it can't possibly happen to you?

[DhaniBoy]

feeding the homeless is a blessing, even if it is necessary, every country should make a rule that the homeless life borne by the state, as we know that the homeless do not have a home and a steady job, they are very difficult to finance their lives, the government should create a program to the homeless so they can afford for the money, and they are able to meet their basic needs ... 

[deluxeCITY]

How do you know these people cannot survive on their own?  What if they are just lazy, like dank?  If a city has provided services to a person for a couple years and they are able to work but unwilling, why should the city keep paying for those services?

I agree 100%. If you continue to feed the homeless then they will have no incentive to improve their lives and get a job, ect.  [...]

I find this kind of myopia amazing; it's kind of like the "it's your fault that you're poor", even if you work several jobs and still barely make enough to feed your family.

I wonder if you would hold on to those views if you were to become homeless one day - or do you think it can't possibly happen to you?

Well it is generally a person's fault because they live in poverty. Even when they work "several" jobs they are all low/no skill jobs which they are generally overpaid to work.

There are also a ridiculous number of social programs that will give the "poor" free food and money for nothing in order to help them "pay for things"

[awesome31312]

This is really scary, they are basically saying you cannot help people that cannot survive on their own.

How do you know these people cannot survive on their own?  What if they are just lazy, like dank?  If a city has provided services to a person for a couple years and they are able to work but unwilling, why should the city keep paying for those services?

Check your privilege

[TaunSew]

How do you know these people cannot survive on their own?  What if they are just lazy, like dank?  If a city has provided services to a person for a couple years and they are able to work but unwilling, why should the city keep paying for those services?

I agree 100%. If you continue to feed the homeless then they will have no incentive to improve their lives and get a job, ect.  [...]

I find this kind of myopia amazing; it's kind of like the "it's your fault that you're poor", even if you work several jobs and still barely make enough to feed your family.

I wonder if you would hold on to those views if you were to become homeless one day - or do you think it can't possibly happen to you?

Well it is generally a person's fault because they live in poverty. Even when they work "several" jobs they are all low/no skill jobs which they are generally overpaid to work.

There are also a ridiculous number of social programs that will give the "poor" free food and money for nothing in order to help them "pay for things"

This sort of contempt is why the middle class is disappearing.  I know a lot of good middle class jobs that were made redundant after 2000, the corporation changed the title and tried to pass it off as 'unskilled labor'.  

[dank]

Arnold Abbott handed out four plates of food to homeless people in a South Florida park. Then police stopped the 90-year-old from serving up another bite.
"An officer said, 'Drop that plate right now -- like I had a weapon,'" Abbott said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/justice/florida-feeding-homeless-charges/index.html

I can see their point... if you keep feeding the problem, it will never go away.

Give a man a fish...

Can you not look any deeper for the reason of homelessness?

Homeless people are not the problem.  The problem is our greed based society that makes people homeless when they can no longer offer the system anything.

Teaching a man to fish doesn't mean shit if you're going to take half of his fish away as a tax for teaching him.

[Swordsoffreedom]

The alternative though is that if everyone shares no one has an incentive to innovate.
Unless they get a reward
Ah capitalism

[Mr Tsoutsounopaiktis]

If i want to give something to somebody for free, it's not your business. It's MY BUSINESS. Sue the cops. Fuck capitalism. "File sharing" economy right now!!!

[TaunSew]

It is quite disturbing the contempt some people here have for the homeless.  

Nobody in a rich society should have to sleep on a cold pavement or go hungry.  Food and shelter are things you can provide to people, if you removed the middle men bureaucrats through a basic income, for probably $800 per adult and indexed to inflation.
 

The recent bailout in the US is said to be between $16-$30 trillion.  Why is it ok for corporations to get corporate welfare but it is bad when people get welfare?   $30 trillion is such that you could fund 100 million people on a basic income for 30 years.  While that $30 trillion in the bail out has gone to CEO bonuses, art collections and yachts.

[Buffer Overflow]

Arnold Abbott handed out four plates of food to homeless people in a South Florida park. Then police stopped the 90-year-old from serving up another bite.
"An officer said, 'Drop that plate right now -- like I had a weapon,'" Abbott said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/justice/florida-feeding-homeless-charges/index.html

I can see their point... if you keep feeding the problem, it will never go away.

Give a man a fish...

Teaching a man to fish doesn't mean shit if you're going to take half of his fish away as a tax for teaching him.

There's only a few choices to pick:

1) Have no fish.
2) Earn an honest half a fish.
3) Earn an dishonest whole fish.
4) Steal a full or half fish.
5) Expect others to give you a free whole or half fish.

I've picked #2 in life. What about you?

Homeless people are not the problem.  The problem is our greed based society that makes people homeless when they can no longer offer the system anything.

I don't really agree with this blanket statement you've placed on every homeless person. Everyone homeless will have their own reasons for their situation.
Example: Let's say a blacksmith refuses to admit that the world doesn't need blacksmiths anymore, he stubbornly refuses to move with the times in another career. No work, no money, loses house etc...
Now, is this society's fault or the ex-blacksmiths?

[dank]

Arnold Abbott handed out four plates of food to homeless people in a South Florida park. Then police stopped the 90-year-old from serving up another bite.
"An officer said, 'Drop that plate right now -- like I had a weapon,'" Abbott said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/justice/florida-feeding-homeless-charges/index.html

I can see their point... if you keep feeding the problem, it will never go away.

Give a man a fish...

Teaching a man to fish doesn't mean shit if you're going to take half of his fish away as a tax for teaching him.

There's only a few choices to pick:

1) Have no fish.
2) Earn an honest half a fish.
3) Earn an dishonest whole fish.
4) Steal a full or half fish.
5) Expect others to give you a free whole or half fish.

I've picked #2 in life. What about you?

Homeless people are not the problem.  The problem is our greed based society that makes people homeless when they can no longer offer the system anything.

I don't really agree with this blanket statement you've placed on every homeless person. Everyone homeless will have their own reasons for their situation.
Example: Let's say a blacksmith refuses to admit that the world doesn't need blacksmiths anymore, he stubbornly refuses to move with the times in another career. No work, no money, loses house etc...
Now, is this society's fault or the ex-blacksmiths?

Oh?  It's dishonest for people to eat the whole fish they catch?

That's a new one.

Yet it's honest for thugs to threaten violence if you don't give them a cut of your fish?

Hmm..

[dank]

And in regards to your last statement, there are not enough jobs for everyone, it is that simple.  Regulations constrict the economy to the benefit of the present establishment.

Robotic integration results in a system that values growth of the system without any regard for the well being of humans.  Sorta like a virus, leaching off the life of humanity.

And how could a system as such tolerate sharing?  That devoids the power of the system completely.

[CoinCidental]

I hope they're happy when the crime rate rises because an army of homeless people who have had their food supply removed from them will more than likely start helping themselves and I would rather live in a neighbourhood that feeds the crackheads than one that doesn't

[CoinCidental]

And in regards to your last statement, there are not enough jobs for everyone, it is that simple.  Regulations constrict the economy to the benefit of the present establishment.

Robotic integration results in a system that values growth of the system without any regard for the well being of humans.  Sorta like a virus, leaching off the life of humanity.

And how could a system as such tolerate sharing?  That devoids the power of the system completely.

Dank - just fuck off...

[BitMos]

There's only a few choices to pick:

1) Have no fish.
2) Earn an honest half a fish.
3) Earn an dishonest whole fish.
4) Steal a full or half fish.
5) Expect others to give you a free whole or half fish.

I've picked #2 in life. What about you?

wrong there are always more choices, only yourself limit it.

6) Bring some kinetic tools to tell the ones wanting to steal the others half of your fish whom it belongs to, and what are the costs associated with an attempted theft...

and this lie in your 2) and 3) about dishonest and honest is just lazy... I expected more from you.

[u9y42]

Well it is generally a person's fault because they live in poverty. Even when they work "several" jobs they are all low/no skill jobs which they are generally overpaid to work.

There are also a ridiculous number of social programs that will give the "poor" free food and money for nothing in order to help them "pay for things"

You see, the fallacy there is that it assumes the outcome is only dependent on the person's own actions, and nothing else - which is nonsense, of course. Among other things, that mentality ignores the circumstances the person is in, as TaunSew's post alluded to, but it also ignores the environment that person grew up in and the opportunities it was afforded. I mean, just look at the studies for social mobility in developed countries and see how the US is doing.

[BADecker]

This has nothing to do with the minimum wage. It's about how we have evolved to a fascist police state.

No we haven't. It all has to do with what people are willing to put up with because of their ignorance.

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