Arrested for feeding homeless people

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Regardless of your opinion on if the law is just or not, the police officers were only doing their job.

Just doing their jobs.

Nice Godwin!  Because discouraging bums from shitting free food all over a neighborhood park is EXACTLY like the Third Reich.

Thanks for derailing this duplicate thread before it took up any more space.   

It's not an example of Godwin's law.

Whether or not you agree with his overall point, it actually is EXACTLY an example of Godwin's Law. It is a perfect example that proves the rule.

Godwin's law confimed, which automatically ends the discussion. OP please lock the thread.

[iCEBREAKER]

I do on occasion go to a drive thru fast food place that is in a complex with a gas station, a large retailer, etc. Homeless people are always hanging out near one specific entrance/exit location in the complex. So, if I feel like it....I order my meal x2 and when I'm leaving give 1 away to of whichever homeless person happens to be there that day. It's not a daily, scheduled or regular thing. I can spend my money how I wish and as far as I know, it's not illegal in Florida to hand a person a bag of food whether you know them or not.

Not all over Florida apparently. This was an ordinance, which means it was passed by a city. I think it was Fort Lauderdale?

OMG R U SAYING THAT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES PREFER TO LIVE BY DIFFERENT RULES?

THAT IS AN ATTACK ON MUH LIBURTEEZ!  SEND IN THE ANARCHIST POLICE TO ARREST THESE OPPRESSORS!

DOWN WITH LOCAL CONTROL!  WE MUST HAVE THE EXACT SAME LAWS EVERYWHERE OR WE HATE FREEDUMB!

/first world anarchist angst

http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-first-world-anarchists-rebels/

[Alejandro Taquito]

I don't care where you live you should be able to feed homeless people if you like.

[iCEBREAKER]

I don't care where you live you should be able to feed homeless people if you like.

IKR?  Why should the people effected by the problems feeding homeless creates have a say in the matter?

If you want to sacrifice their property values for the sake of your altrusim, that's freedom at work.

If they don't want the homeless to shit our your free food all over their park/sidewalk/street/lawns, they should invite the homeless into their houses to use a toilet.  And if they don't want them sleeping/shoot up in the park, they should let them stay in a spare bedroom.

People have no right to control their own communities and set standards to ensure safe food distribution, sanitation, etc.

The Anarchist Police should force everyone who works for a living to share their earned resources with those who don't.

Because Freedom!

*hoists Black Flag; rages against the machine*

[awesome31312]

Regardless of your opinion on if the law is just or not, the police officers were only doing their job.

Just doing their jobs.

Nice Godwin!  Because discouraging bums from shitting free food all over a neighborhood park is EXACTLY like the Third Reich.

Thanks for derailing this duplicate thread before it took up any more space.   

It's not an example of Godwin's law.

Whether or not you agree with his overall point, it actually is EXACTLY an example of Godwin's Law. It is a perfect example that proves the rule.

Godwin's law confimed, which automatically ends the discussion. OP please lock the thread.

Look up the Nuremburg Defense before you make yourself look like an idiot again

[Buffer Overflow]

Regardless of your opinion on if the law is just or not, the police officers were only doing their job.

Just doing their jobs.

Nice Godwin!  Because discouraging bums from shitting free food all over a neighborhood park is EXACTLY like the Third Reich.

Thanks for derailing this duplicate thread before it took up any more space.   

It's not an example of Godwin's law.

Whether or not you agree with his overall point, it actually is EXACTLY an example of Godwin's Law. It is a perfect example that proves the rule.

Godwin's law confimed, which automatically ends the discussion. OP please lock the thread.

Look up the Nuremburg Defense before you make yourself look like an idiot again

I respect your opinions and that, but come on, comparing this incident to the Nazi leaders and the unthinkable horrors they caused was a cheap shot.

[youngmike]

I told you weeks ago how Blocknet is going to sub ICO almost right after launch and all I heard was "stop fudding, go away" 

[FredDag]

Not sure why a city thinks they need to regulate this man's charity. There seem to be more homeless now than ever in my lifetime. Keeping them out of site isn't going to make them go away.

Just the Nanny State turning up the heat a little more.
Eventually we will reach boiling point, at which time everything that is not compulsory will be illegal.

[iCEBREAKER]

Look up the Nuremburg Defense before you make yourself look like an idiot again

You think I need to look up common knowledge like the history of the Nuremberg Trials?

Sorry, but I'm not as ignorant as you are and won't let your argumentum ad Hitlerum pass without justified mockery and proper invocation of Godwin's Law.   

If you can't tell the difference between Nazi war crimes and enforcing municipal food handling regulations, just give up because you failed at life.

[awesome31312]

Look up the Nuremburg Defense before you make yourself look like an idiot again

You think I need to look up common knowledge like the history of the Nuremberg Trials?

Sorry, but I'm not as ignorant as you are and won't let your argumentum ad Hitlerum pass without justified mockery and proper invocation of Godwin's Law.  

If you can't tell the difference between Nazi war crimes and enforcing municipal food handling regulations, just give up because you failed at life.

Read the page please.

I beg you, please read.

It's not a fallacy, it's a plea.

It's not "common knowledge", it's a description of the plea.

Clearly you haven't read it

[NewLiberty]

Shouting would encroach on private property.  It is a bad analogy.
And...the appeal of neighborhood rights generally in regards to new restrictions on use of public property is pretty thin gruel.
It was already illegal to defecate publicly (as also is your shouting)
The neighbors have no more right than anyone else to public lands, only to their private property.

However...  The city can do this, as stupid or as silly as it may seem, and as poorly handled as in this case.
Apparently they voted against this guy to do this sort of thing.  There are about 20 or 30 other cities in the US that also have similar restrictions on use of public property for food distribution.  Some have limits on frequency or volume so giving away half your sandwich might not get you busted.

It is a silly law and we like to make fun of governments when they do silly things like this.
Florida outlawed sharia and almost outlawed the internet last year due to a badly worded law against internet gambling cafes.
http://blogs.lawyers.com/2013/07/florida-outlaws-smart-phones-and-computers/
Concerned moms also got "Breaking Bad" dolls banned from Toys R Us there. 

And the police force are among the worst speeders.  The story that broke the news on that won a pulitzer:
http://www.pulitzer.org/files/2013/public-service/01day1.pdf

It is a weird state, lots of tourism, alligators and manatees, and famous for being the drug cartel drop point for a few decades, this is pretty much just par for the course, but folks love it.

[cryptocoiner]

Arnold Abbott handed out four plates of food to homeless people in a South Florida park. Then police stopped the 90-year-old from serving up another bite.
"An officer said, 'Drop that plate right now -- like I had a weapon,'" Abbott said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/justice/florida-feeding-homeless-charges/index.html

I can see their point... if you keep feeding the problem, it will never go away.

Give a man a fish...

You probably right. One should create a bisiness and give them a job. This would solve the problem.

[awesome31312]

Shouting would encroach on private property. 

Shouting as in screaming? That's your first amendment right

[NewLiberty]

Shouting would encroach on private property.  

Shouting as in screaming? That's your first amendment right

Disturbing the peace is the typical charge.  In most all US jurisdictions it abridges the 1st amendment.
There are lots of bad laws.  Florida has more than its share.

Here's another:  Consenting adults having sex is a crime.  Apparently it includes such things as licking a boob unless you are a baby and mother.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/800.02
800.02 Unnatural and lascivious act.
A person who commits any unnatural and lascivious act with another person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. A mother's breastfeeding of her baby does not under any circumstance violate this section.

[BootstrapCoinDev]

Seriously though, what other guy in jail is going to look around and say "Hey, that's the 90 year old guy who feeds the homeless. I bet I'd get major street cred for picking a fight with him!"
Also, what police officer is going to think he can get away with roughing up a 90 year old dude who's in the national news?

[dank]

I do on occasion go to a drive thru fast food place that is in a complex with a gas station, a large retailer, etc. Homeless people are always hanging out near one specific entrance/exit location in the complex. So, if I feel like it....I order my meal x2 and when I'm leaving give 1 away to of whichever homeless person happens to be there that day. It's not a daily, scheduled or regular thing. I can spend my money how I wish and as far as I know, it's not illegal in Florida to hand a person a bag of food whether you know them or not.

Not all over Florida apparently. This was an ordinance, which means it was passed by a city. I think it was Fort Lauderdale?

OMG R U SAYING THAT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES PREFER TO LIVE BY DIFFERENT RULES?

THAT IS AN ATTACK ON MUH LIBURTEEZ!  SEND IN THE ANARCHIST POLICE TO ARREST THESE OPPRESSORS!

DOWN WITH LOCAL CONTROL!  WE MUST HAVE THE EXACT SAME LAWS EVERYWHERE OR WE HATE FREEDUMB!

/first world anarchist angst

http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-first-world-anarchists-rebels/

Is your head really so far up your ass to believe that the majority of people in the cities that pass these bans against humans feeding humans really support this shit?

Or are you just a troll spreading your ANARCHY IS ENSLAVEMENT TO FREEDOM fud?

[Eisenhower34]

I do on occasion go to a drive thru fast food place that is in a complex with a gas station, a large retailer, etc. Homeless people are always hanging out near one specific entrance/exit location in the complex. So, if I feel like it....I order my meal x2 and when I'm leaving give 1 away to of whichever homeless person happens to be there that day. It's not a daily, scheduled or regular thing. I can spend my money how I wish and as far as I know, it's not illegal in Florida to hand a person a bag of food whether you know them or not.

Not all over Florida apparently. This was an ordinance, which means it was passed by a city. I think it was Fort Lauderdale?

OMG R U SAYING THAT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES PREFER TO LIVE BY DIFFERENT RULES?

THAT IS AN ATTACK ON MUH LIBURTEEZ!  SEND IN THE ANARCHIST POLICE TO ARREST THESE OPPRESSORS!

DOWN WITH LOCAL CONTROL!  WE MUST HAVE THE EXACT SAME LAWS EVERYWHERE OR WE HATE FREEDUMB!

/first world anarchist angst

http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-first-world-anarchists-rebels/

Is your head really so far up your ass to believe that the majority of people in the cities that pass these bans against humans feeding humans really support this shit?

Or are you just a troll spreading your ANARCHY IS ENSLAVEMENT TO FREEDOM fud?

It is much more complicated then feeding other people. The laws have to do with food safety and having a food license in order to distribute food. If this old man were to have obtained a license to serve food (like all restaurants are required to have) and be subject to the same sanitary inspections then he would be able to give away food to whoever he wants

[awesome31312]

I do on occasion go to a drive thru fast food place that is in a complex with a gas station, a large retailer, etc. Homeless people are always hanging out near one specific entrance/exit location in the complex. So, if I feel like it....I order my meal x2 and when I'm leaving give 1 away to of whichever homeless person happens to be there that day. It's not a daily, scheduled or regular thing. I can spend my money how I wish and as far as I know, it's not illegal in Florida to hand a person a bag of food whether you know them or not.

Not all over Florida apparently. This was an ordinance, which means it was passed by a city. I think it was Fort Lauderdale?

OMG R U SAYING THAT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES PREFER TO LIVE BY DIFFERENT RULES?

THAT IS AN ATTACK ON MUH LIBURTEEZ!  SEND IN THE ANARCHIST POLICE TO ARREST THESE OPPRESSORS!

DOWN WITH LOCAL CONTROL!  WE MUST HAVE THE EXACT SAME LAWS EVERYWHERE OR WE HATE FREEDUMB!

/first world anarchist angst

http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-first-world-anarchists-rebels/

Freedom is slavery. War is (Nobel) Peace.

[Lethn]

I was just wtfing over that comment above you Eisenhower34 and then I just went "Ohhhh It's dank!" lol yeah, don't bother trying to respond to him guys, he's one of our resident psychopaths.

[dank]

I was just wtfing over that comment above you Eisenhower34 and then I just went "Ohhhh It's dank!" lol yeah, don't bother trying to respond to him guys, he's one of our resident psychopaths.

Right, because in this world, sanctioned murder is an act of peace and sanity, while speaking of nonviolence, love and equality, is an act of psychopaths.