SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds

[bbit]

Ps. I am happy that Silk Road 2 is almost gone.

Why? You prefer dirty politicians and their gang relations than decentralized free market?

SR or SR 2.0 were not decentralized free market. They were very much centralized. OpenBazaar aims to be a decentralized one.

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

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[hilariousandco]

Taken down by who? I'm sure if there's issues with how Open Bazaar works people will just create a new improved one.

[inBitweTrust]

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

No.

[hilariousandco]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/

Almost all of the deep web’s major drug marketplaces are currently offline, raising the possibility that the FBI has caused severe disruption to the online drug trade. Agora, Alpaca, BlueSky, C9, Hyrda, Pandora, and the Silk Road are all currently offline.

Damn, is that true? Are they all down as well? 

[SpanishSoldier]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/

Almost all of the deep web’s major drug marketplaces are currently offline, raising the possibility that the FBI has caused severe disruption to the online drug trade. Agora, Alpaca, BlueSky, C9, Hyrda, Pandora, and the Silk Road are all currently offline.

Damn, is that true? Are they all down as well? 

Did not Agora had a thread on BitcoinTalk as well ?

[bbit]

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

No.

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OB can't be taken down but I'm pretty sure shops can.

[SpanishSoldier]

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

No.

??

OB can't be taken down but I'm pretty sure shops can.

I tend to agree with u on this regard. Individual OB shops can be taken down just like individual bitcoiners can be nabbed. But taking the the whole system is not possible and that is the beauty of decentralization.

[bbit]

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

No.

??

OB can't be taken down but I'm pretty sure shops can.

I tend to agree with u on this regard. Individual OB shops can be taken down just like individual bitcoiners can be nabbed. But taking the the whole system is not possible and that is the beauty of decentralization.

Ah no I agree. OB can't be taken down but specific individuals can. Yes 

[inBitweTrust]

??

OB can't be taken down but I'm pretty sure shops can.

No.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/openbazaar-not-for-drugs/

Patterson says OpenBazaar is “listing agnostic,”

Patterson suggests that OpenBazaar’s creators may create a voluntary whitelist option that allow users to prevent themselves from seeing illegal products. But that filter could be turned off by any user interested in exploring OpenBazaar’s darker side.

In fact, OpenBazaar’s peer-to-peer design means its creators won’t be able to stop anyone from selling anything they’d like.

Ah no I agree. OB can't be taken down but specific individuals can. Yes  

Yes, but going after dealers individually will be futile and impractical. I misunderstood you to indicate that OB devs could take down shops.

[theblacksquid]

Open Bazar, please take command 

CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!???

[spazzdla]

Open Bazar, please take command 

CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!???

AMEN!! Let the torture of things beyond human imagination bestow these criminals of humanity for all eternity.

[inBitweTrust]

https://twitter.com/openbazaar/status/530400447539183617

"The end of centralized marketplaces is nigh."

[bornil267645]

Just the other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a stranger from the street and he was taking drugs. I asked him where he bought it and he replied with Bitcoin. So I think feds should make this kind of effects more and more to keep this BTC community clean from corruption.

[inBitweTrust]

... keep this BTC community clean from corruption.

Bitcoin is open source so even the corrupt and violent criminals at the FBI can participate. I agree that it would be great to keep these assholes out but we have to remain neutral.

[BitcoinzB]

Wonder what will happen to Bitcoin price now ( and as soon as all SR2 funds will be auctioned aswell )

Also from businessinsider,

"During the Government’s investigation, which was conducted jointly by the FBI and HSI, an HSI agent acting in an undercover capacity (the “HSI-UC”) successfully infiltrated the support staff involved in the administration of the Silk Road 2.0 website, and was given access to private, restricted areas of the site reserved for BENTHALL and his administrative staff. By doing so, the HSI-UC was able to interact directly with BENTHALL throughout his operation of the website."

Human error got the big guy in for life.

[roslinpl]

Ps. I am happy that Silk Road 2 is almost gone.

Why? You prefer dirty politicians and their gang relations than decentralized free market?

I don't prefer politicians.  But I don't think that sellin illegal things is really what I want to see on the decentralized free market.

This was a decentralized black market. Not decentralized free market.

There is a difference between those two :-)

Regards.

[inBitweTrust]

This was a decentralized black market. Not decentralized free market.

There is a difference between those two :-)

Regards.

False. Silk Road 1 and 2 sold legal and illegal items. Illegal items were merely in abundance because the black market is always the first to take advantage of newer and risky technologies. One should expect openbazaar to also mainly list illegal items at first as well.

[hilariousandco]

Ps. I am happy that Silk Road 2 is almost gone.

Why? You prefer dirty politicians and their gang relations than decentralized free market?

I don't prefer politicians.  But I don't think that sellin illegal things is really what I want to see on the decentralized free market.

So do you or do you not want a decentralised free market? You can't have one but for only the things you want to see. And it's the politicians who made the things illegal in the first place thus creating a 'black market'.

[kokojie]

I believe  individuals shops can be shut down on OB ?

No.

??

OB can't be taken down but I'm pretty sure shops can.

I tend to agree with u on this regard. Individual OB shops can be taken down just like individual bitcoiners can be nabbed. But taking the the whole system is not possible and that is the beauty of decentralization.

Ah no I agree. OB can't be taken down but specific individuals can. Yes  

Nope, OB can be easily taken down, just arrest anyone who develops for it, it'll easily scare all developers into not touching OB. Without active development, OB is dead in the water.

[inBitweTrust]

Nope, OB can be easily taken down, just arrest anyone who develops for it, it'll easily scare all developers into not touching OB. Without active development, OB is dead in the water.

Arresting people for writing code would be an interesting totalitarian thought experiment which would totally not backfire.   Writing code anonymously for a project is easy to do. Distributing code anonymously is also easy to do with torrents.

There is no stopping this.