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November 07, 2014, 07:17:54 AM
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How the FBI just made the world a more dangerous place by shutting down Silkroad 2.0 and a bunch of online drug markets

The FBI has seized the website of Silk Road 2.0, a major "darknet" marketplace, and arrested its alleged operator, Blake Benthall, in San Francisco. On reddit, the darknet community is reporting that several other marketplaces may be down as well. (RELATED: Seized sites represent less than a third of Darknet commerce »)

The Irish Examiner reports that "an international day of action to disrupt global activity on the Darknet and remove certain websites and forums is to conclude within the next 24 hours under the FBI/Europol operation codenamed 'Onymous'".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/06/how-the-fbi-just-made-the-world-a-more-dangerous-place-by-shutting-down-silkroad-2-0-and-a-bunch-of-online-drug-markets/

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November 07, 2014, 07:55:40 AM
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Silk Road 3.0: all placebos (which your brain fools you into thinking they're real, even if you're told in advance that they're a placebo), all government sellers. Retard tax collected.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 07, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
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Rediculous reasoning. Harddrugs dealers can easily buy so much more than on the streets, increasing available supplies, making prices cheaper.
Allowing these black markets to trade only makes things worse and makes more people involved and in the end it all comes back on the streets. Not closing it down would attract more markets to open up shop. Don't point fingers at lawinforcers but to people involved in crimes.
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November 07, 2014, 03:19:33 PM
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I wonder if the time and resources spent on this could have been used more productively.
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November 08, 2014, 01:43:23 AM
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Good action. This type of darknet will make the purchase of drug and illegal products available easily to anyone. The users have to trade on the street in person. The danger will arise at the street where you are easy to get attacked, robbed, even arrested by cops. It will reduce the their initiative to go out to make a purchase.
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November 08, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
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Good action. This type of darknet will make the purchase of drug and illegal products available easily to anyone. The users have to trade on the street in person. The danger will arise at the street where you are easy to get attacked, robbed, even arrested by cops. It will reduce the their initiative to go out to make a purchase.

People who are desperate for drugs will go out into the street.
If you close one darknet site down, ten others will take its place.
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November 08, 2014, 04:51:52 AM
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The title is giving me an impression that FBI have done something bad and is not appropriate with the context of the given article which is about that FBI is just cracking down darknet for drugs and weapons. We are still safe to live there. LOL

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November 08, 2014, 05:08:00 AM
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Wow this is pretty huge news. Not just all the markets, but the fact that they broke the Tor network.

My prediction: they'll claim sort of 'homeland security' bullshit regarding how they can't divulge any of the vaguest of details about how they broke Tor, when in fact, its intelligence agencies just doing all the illegal snooping and raw traffic analysis to determine the Tor routing... probably most of the nodes are government operated.  And due to 'state secrecy' they don't have to even present the proof against the guys running the dark markets --  because they don't don't follow laws, that's for us instead, they operate outside of that.
 

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November 08, 2014, 10:10:21 PM
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Wow this is pretty huge news. Not just all the markets, but the fact that they broke the Tor network.

The mere claim is important news, but I wouldn't necessarily take it as true.  If they want to introduce evidence obtained by this method, they might be required to explain how they got it.  I say "might" because even though the law in civilized countries and the U.S. Constitution basically say they MUST present such evidence, courts in the U.S. aren't big on this whole Constitution thing any more.

However, why would they advertise they had done this?  It would seem that would cause people to scurry for the hills, the last thing they want if they want to do any future enforcement.  However, suppose they didn't have such capability but said they did?  Suppose there are a number of markets they can't get to, but want to shut down?  Suppose there are too many customers to go after individually?  Claiming they've compromised TOR is a good way to scare off customers and maybe get some of these sites they can't get to to shut down.

And of course there is always the possibility that they actually have compromised TOR.  I'd certainly be thinking twice before using it for anything illegal at this point, which I don't anyway.

In any event, anyone who runs one of these sites who has been logging traffic (which they should be), should be going through their logs with a fine tooth comb looking for leaks, attempts to compromise, etc. because it is certain the LEAs have been doing just that.
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November 09, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
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Wow this is pretty huge news. Not just all the markets, but the fact that they broke the Tor network.

From what I could figure out, Tor is also being used in a big way by espionage agents/foreign correspondents to cover their tracks. Wonder if we would see a crackdown on those fronts as well.
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November 09, 2014, 02:46:26 AM
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Rediculous reasoning. Harddrugs dealers can easily buy so much more than on the streets, increasing available supplies, making prices cheaper.
Allowing these black markets to trade only makes things worse and makes more people involved and in the end it all comes back on the streets. Not closing it down would attract more markets to open up shop. Don't point fingers at lawinforcers but to people involved in crimes.

You are an ignorant buffoon.


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November 09, 2014, 04:51:52 AM
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So the FBI helps to reinstate and protect the monopoly of the big drug cartells?

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So the FBI helps to reinstate and protect the monopoly of the big drug cartells?

Hey, the CIA has to make ends meet somehow for their black budget. 
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November 09, 2014, 08:18:41 AM
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So Far Feds Have Only Confirmed Seizing 27 "Dark Market" Sites In Operation Onymous

The first category in the federal complaint is sites selling illegal narcotics. The complaint gives the example of “Cloud Nine” which had “1G Pure Uncut Fishscale Cocaine” for sale by “Mrs. Blanco” for 0.2934 Bitcoin. The narcotics sites are:

    Alpaca
    Black Market
    Blue Sky
    Bungee 54
    Cabbabis UK
    Cloud Nine
    Dedope
     Farmer1
    Hydra
    Pablo Escobar Drugstore
    Pandora
    Silk Road 2.0
    Smokeables
    Tor Bazaar

Other seized sites sold stolen and counterfeit credit cards. “Fake Real Plastic,” for example, sold cards “printed to look just like real VISA and Mastercards” and “[g]uarenteed to have at least $2500 left on [the] credit card limit,” according to the complaint. The other sites in this category are:

    Cloud Nine
    Fake Real Plastic
    Hydra
    Pandora
    Pay Pal Center
    Real Cards Team TISI +0.52%
    The Green Machine
    Zero Squad.

Next up were sites with counterfeit currency. On “Super Notes Counter,” a person could get $1,000 worth of counterfeit currency for only $420, according to the complaint. Other sites included

    Alpaca, Blue Sky
    Cloud Nine
    Fast Cash!
    Hydra
     Pablo Escobar Drugstore
    Sol’s Unified USD Counterfeit’s
    Super Note Counter
    The Hidden Market
    Zero Squad

Finally, the complaint lists the sites offering fake identity documents, including passports. These sites are:

    Alpaca
    Black Market
    Fake ID
    Pablo Escobar Drugstore
    Pandora, Silk Road 2.0
    The Hidden Market.

The complaint doesn’t say what quantity of Bitcoin was seized in connection with these 27 sites, or what will be done with the currency if the government receives a final order of forfeiture from the court based off this complaint.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2014/11/07/operation-onymous-dark-markets/

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