Advices on how to start a gamble site

[philiveyjr]

Hi guys!

I want to start a gamble site, I just need some advices and How much it will cost me to start a good one.

Any ideas please ?

If you can code it could cost you just the domain and hosting because you could just offer an invest option at your site and them promote for free on here.  If you cant code then its going to cost you a ton and your chances of success are statistically slim.

Domain and Hosting doesn't cost a lot. All you need to pay for, is the cost to get the site built and developed. Just hire a developer, or learn bitcoind on your own. But for the security point of view, hiring an experienced developer is a better option.

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[Stunna]

Be prepared to give up any normal sleeping pattern or ability to make plans which involve leaving the computer for extended periods of time...

[Snail2]

If you want to sleep sometimes you will need a few 1st level support persons, and someone you trust for L2 L3 support.

[aamon]

Where do you guys host your sites?

[elm]

Be prepared to give up any normal sleeping pattern or ability to make plans which involve leaving the computer for extended periods of time...

LOL I was in this situation but not with a gambling site. no sleep and misses asked for divorce

[kaykawa]

be careful with "the coder "

[kaykawa]

don't skip rolls and  don't fuck your users.  

[yohanip]

I don't think it's at all possible to 100% protect your money no matter who will be doing coding for you. What makes you think random freelancer will be safe?
If it's about idea, frankly, everyone has ideas, and many think theirs is the greatest one. Instead of trying to hide it you'll be better off to go and talk to someone about it, get a second opinion.

IMO random freelancer will not be safe.

yes everyone has ideas and yes everyone thinks his idea is good enough to make it.

second opinion now we are back to my question -whom can you trust?-

IMO each one who has an idea has to bring it on line to see if it works. it is a gamble and if it will not be accepted by the players he will lose the investment.

please let me explain short my experience of 2nd opinion. I had the chance to speak to a  few coder here through PMs and on skype.
when asking if they can code me a script, all said sure I can and thats a walk in the park. I gave them a simple game (not attractive at all) and all immediately said that they dont have time to do the job 
this answer is telling me that they only wanted to hear the game idea. or how would you explain this answer/behavior?

cheers

Maybe you could distribute the idea, giving only bits and piece. But then again you will be facing problem to connect your own puzzle, or perhaps even the problem of breaking down and distribute that idea to bits..

Let's take an example of one big website which are coded by hundreds if programmer, let's say amazon, let's put that within 1000 people, then.. amazon had one person with the 'bad intentions' what would amazon do to prevent it? They distribute the system..

[jaberwock]

be prepared to have nightmares about players winning 1000's of Bitcoins overnight and making you consider shutting down

[elm]

I don't think it's at all possible to 100% protect your money no matter who will be doing coding for you. What makes you think random freelancer will be safe?
If it's about idea, frankly, everyone has ideas, and many think theirs is the greatest one. Instead of trying to hide it you'll be better off to go and talk to someone about it, get a second opinion.

IMO random freelancer will not be safe.

yes everyone has ideas and yes everyone thinks his idea is good enough to make it.

second opinion now we are back to my question -whom can you trust?-

IMO each one who has an idea has to bring it on line to see if it works. it is a gamble and if it will not be accepted by the players he will lose the investment.

please let me explain short my experience of 2nd opinion. I had the chance to speak to a  few coder here through PMs and on skype.
when asking if they can code me a script, all said sure I can and thats a walk in the park. I gave them a simple game (not attractive at all) and all immediately said that they dont have time to do the job 
this answer is telling me that they only wanted to hear the game idea. or how would you explain this answer/behavior?

cheers

Maybe you could distribute the idea, giving only bits and piece. But then again you will be facing problem to connect your own puzzle, or perhaps even the problem of breaking down and distribute that idea to bits..

Let's take an example of one big website which are coded by hundreds if programmer, let's say amazon, let's put that within 1000 people, then.. amazon had one person with the 'bad intentions' what would amazon do to prevent it? They distribute the system..

I understand your point, thanks for contributing. one piece would be enough for the smart guys ( and we have many here)to understand the game idea
please let me repeat that I dont need an opinion if the game idea is good enough. I need a coder whom I could trust

[Snail2]

I understand your point, thanks for contributing. one piece would be enough for the smart guys ( and we have many here)to understand the game idea
please let me repeat that I dont need an opinion if the game idea is good enough. I need a coder whom I could trust

Maybe you can try to split coding to functions with well defined inputs and outputs and hire freelancers for each part. When all done then you need someone else to integrate these parts together into a control app, based on the defined inputs outputs but without knowing the functional modules. This method have some cons but apart from you, nobody else will have the full code in one hand.

[sherbyspark]

Be prepared to give up any normal sleeping pattern or ability to make plans which involve leaving the computer for extended periods of time...

That is specially true for the initial period after launching the site. For responding to customers, you can hire moderators, that might be helpful. But a technical problem will have to be solved by you.

[elm]

I understand your point, thanks for contributing. one piece would be enough for the smart guys ( and we have many here)to understand the game idea
please let me repeat that I dont need an opinion if the game idea is good enough. I need a coder whom I could trust

Maybe you can try to split coding to functions with well defined inputs and outputs and hire freelancers for each part. When all done then you need someone else to integrate these parts together into a control app, based on the defined inputs outputs but without knowing the functional modules. This method have some cons but apart from you, nobody else will have the full code in one hand.

good point and to be frank I thought about it. I just dont know yet how to split the task and in how many parts etc. and thats all because I am not a coder and not enough familiar with all this stuff. but I know gambling and casinos very well and not as a gambler and I know exactly what I want to bring online.

[Miitch]

Be prepared to give up any normal sleeping pattern or ability to make plans which involve leaving the computer for extended periods of time...

haha I second that! Always on edge 

[Snail2]

good point and to be frank I thought about it. I just dont know yet how to split the task and in how many parts etc. and thats all because I am not a coder and not enough familiar with all this stuff. but I know gambling and casinos very well and not as a gambler and I know exactly what I want to bring online.

I don't know your stuff but I guess it have functionally different parts e.g. dice module, slots module, poker module, deposit and withdraw modules, account management, affiliate module, admin module etc. Generally speaking it's a good idea to do not split these functional modules to even smaller parts because that would make the project management overcomplicated.

[Dabs]

Be prepared to give up any normal sleeping pattern or ability to make plans which involve leaving the computer for extended periods of time...

Stunna, someone mentioned that you still have a regular day job, in addition to running PD. Or did you quit that job already and full-time on PD?

[kaykawa]

don't cheat your users

[CoinCollect]

Ok fuck you all. thanx
no even offer single help or answer to my questions
Sure i wont scam anyone what a kind of advice is this ?
My questions are
1- How much BTC it will cost me to make good site not very proessioanl but at least like any others.
2- Who can code for me or where i can find them ? and how much they will take ?

for others i wont scam for sure, i'm online almost 16 hours + will get my real life friend to work with me.
Im free and have the time to be good owner and i think i can get the money, the only problem is the coding maybe.
I want to do this just for fun but i need it clean no hackers, no errors so people can be in safe.

[kaykawa]

Ok fuck you all. thanx
no even offer single help or answer to my questions
Sure i wont scam anyone what a kind of advice is this ?
My questions are
1- How much BTC it will cost me to make good site not very proessioanl but at least like any others.
2- Who can code for me or where i can find them ? and how much they will take ?

for others i wont scam for sure, i'm online almost 16 hours + will get my real life friend to work with me.
Im free and have the time to be good owner and i think i can get the money, the only problem is the coding maybe.
I want to do this just for fun but i need it clean no hackers, no errors so people can be in safe.

1- How much BTC it will cost me to make good site not very proessioanl but at least like any others.

A:  Easily , for a good good webpage, >10 btc

2- Who can code for me or where i can find them ? and how much they will take ?

A: Be careful with this, you don't want "bugs" (you can loose $$ with that).
Try o find someone trusted coder.

[elm]

good point and to be frank I thought about it. I just dont know yet how to split the task and in how many parts etc. and thats all because I am not a coder and not enough familiar with all this stuff. but I know gambling and casinos very well and not as a gambler and I know exactly what I want to bring online.

I don't know your stuff but I guess it have functionally different parts e.g. dice module, slots module, poker module, deposit and withdraw modules, account management, affiliate module, admin module etc. Generally speaking it's a good idea to do not split these functional modules to even smaller parts because that would make the project management overcomplicated.

@Snail2

I am not sure if I understood Your message. I agree that it will not make sense to split each module in parts. but each module You mentioned (more or less) will be needed to have a full working script.
if I could buy those modules separately and put them together at some point this would be a good solution. like this I can add the game idea at the end.

but is it possible to buy those modules? I didnt see any for sale till now, or did I miss it somehow?

thanks for the posting