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November 08, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
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If your smartphone gets stolen, you only have chances of getting it back if you had installed a tracking app inside it before it was stolen. However, the tracking app can be easily subject to removal upon a factory reset or complete SD card wipe.

So why don't phones come built in with a tracking app?

"US carriers reportedly rejected anti-theft 'kill switch' in Samsung phones"

"Anti-theft insurance profits may trump consumer protection"

"The 1.6 million US smartphone owners who had their handset stolen last year may think that a "kill switch" feature to disable the phone would be a good deterrent, but carriers reportedly don't agree.
Major carriers AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile are said to have rejected anti-theft software in Samsung smartphones sold in the US, according to a New York Times report today.
The reason? Carriers are more concerned about profiting from the insurance programs bundled with high-end phones, suggested San Francisco's District Attorney George Gascón."

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US carriers reportedly rejected anti-theft 'kill switch' in Samsung phones
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November 09, 2014, 01:01:44 AM
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Is this really a surprise?  Decision tree for US corporations has always been, "does it make us more money or less money". 

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November 09, 2014, 01:12:32 AM
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You want a hardware fucking tracking device?

You want to hand the global police state your privacy on a damn silver platter!

Fuck man, the smartphones are getting cheaper due to Moore's law. I wonder if there is anything but air between your ears.
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November 09, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
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I have a better idea that even guards your privacy, make some thermite in some kind of wooden box attached to the back ( so it's still flammable ) and set it up so that you can set it off with some kind of signal, then if it ever get stolen you can simply set the thing off and if someone has been a dick and stolen your phone it will burn up and either ruin their pocket making it obvious who the culprit is or burn their hand off depending on how much you've put in.

Tracking devices are pretty pointless and are easily messed with if the person knows how to mess with it, I'm not looking forward to the technology they're trying to push onto drivers in Britain.
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November 09, 2014, 01:28:05 AM
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I have a better idea that even guards your privacy, make some thermite in some kind of wooden box attached to the back ( so it's still flammable ) and set it up so that you can set it off with some kind of signal, then if it ever get stolen you can simply set the thing off and if someone has been a dick and stolen your phone it will burn up and either ruin their pocket making it obvious who the culprit is or burn their hand off depending on how much you've put in.

Tracking devices are pretty pointless and are easily reversed if the person knows how to mess with it, I'm not looking forward to the technology they're trying to push onto drivers in Britain.

You risk your own health just to punish a thief over an electronic good that is halving in price roughly every 18 months.

Your IQ is below 100.




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November 09, 2014, 01:40:02 AM
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Well that's a first, a guy called UnunoctiumTesticles is preaching the bible to me lol, just so you know, since you're clearly new here, I'm an Anarchist.
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November 09, 2014, 02:35:04 AM
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Is there encryption technology that could easily be built right into all cellphones so that all calls would be scrambled? This would make all phone calls not viewable or audio available except to the recipient phone... like a general phone PGP or GPG.

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November 09, 2014, 04:39:14 AM
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Is there encryption technology that could easily be built right into all cellphones so that all calls would be scrambled? This would make all phone calls not viewable or audio available except to the recipient phone... like a general phone PGP or GPG.

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November 09, 2014, 05:44:47 AM
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Having "kill-switch" like features on all phones is something that would cost money. Wireless carriers would need to invest in this technology and would need to work with phone manufacturers in order to make this work.

You also have the issue that the reason a phone works is because a SIM card has been inserted into a phone and a SIM car can be switched out if someone wants to use a different account for a specific phone. This would make the technology effectively moot because someone could remove the SIM card
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November 09, 2014, 11:00:54 AM
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You want a hardware fucking tracking device?

You want to hand the global police state your privacy on a damn silver platter!

Fuck man, the smartphones are getting cheaper due to Moore's law. I wonder if there is anything but air between your ears.

Okay first of all, nice name

Second, if you can encrypt your location information using end to end encryption services I don't see the problem.


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November 09, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
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You want a hardware fucking tracking device?

People would cry hysterically if these aps were in-built and iremovable. The choice should be there.

I have a better idea that even guards your privacy, make some thermite in some kind of wooden box attached to the back ( so it's still flammable ) and set it up so that you can set it off with some kind of signal, then if it ever get stolen you can simply set the thing off and if someone has been a dick and stolen your phone it will burn up and either ruin their pocket making it obvious who the culprit is or burn their hand off depending on how much you've put in.

Tracking devices are pretty pointless and are easily reversed if the person knows how to mess with it, I'm not looking forward to the technology they're trying to push onto drivers in Britain.

You risk your own health just to punish a thief over an electronic good that is halving in price roughly every 18 months.

Your IQ is below 100.

Lethn isn't the smartest tool in the box and this suggestion is both equally ridiculous as it is hilarious. What happens if a kid picks up your phone or a stranger trying to return it to you and it burns their face off?  Roll Eyes

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November 09, 2014, 03:49:27 PM
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Is there encryption technology that could easily be built right into all cellphones so that all calls would be scrambled? This would make all phone calls not viewable or audio available except to the recipient phone... like a general phone PGP or GPG.

Smiley

Now you are thinking correctly.

PGP still depending the where you store it. If you let Apple manage all that information, it is not that much different than what security certificates do these day.
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November 09, 2014, 08:37:18 PM
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Is there encryption technology that could easily be built right into all cellphones so that all calls would be scrambled? This would make all phone calls not viewable or audio available except to the recipient phone... like a general phone PGP or GPG.

Smiley

Now you are thinking correctly.

PGP still depending the where you store it. If you let Apple manage all that information, it is not that much different than what security certificates do these day.

This, this, and this.

Just read an article about it the other day. Why do we pretend to be outraged over the Snapchat data leaks when the NSA and corporations like Apple do the same thing with your data? (careless storage)

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November 11, 2014, 05:07:06 AM
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Is there encryption technology that could easily be built right into all cellphones so that all calls would be scrambled? This would make all phone calls not viewable or audio available except to the recipient phone... like a general phone PGP or GPG.

Smiley

Now you are thinking correctly.

PGP still depending the where you store it. If you let Apple manage all that information, it is not that much different than what security certificates do these day.
Although the encryption used in iPhones is not PGP, it is for the most part not crackable unless you know the 4 digit PIN (with only 10,000 combinations) and for most people will be just as good (with the exception of the limited number of PINS). If apple would allow for an actual password (instead of a PIN) to decrypt a phone then it's security would be more then enough for the vast majority of people 
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November 11, 2014, 07:01:18 AM
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Well that's a first, a guy called UnunoctiumTesticles is preaching the bible to me lol, just so you know, since you're clearly new here, I'm an Anarchist.

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November 11, 2014, 07:23:00 AM
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Well that's a first, a guy called UnunoctiumTesticles is preaching the bible to me lol, just so you know, since you're clearly new here, I'm an Anarchist.

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Well it's just the precursor to the new forum software
Which will then be a sieve
Unless you were talking about some sort of apocalyptic sign then I can see where that came from as well.

Regarding the monitoring software on a phone I would consider it a weapon that can be used against you involuntarily
Cell towers already do that to an extent but I guess the difference is that if your phone is stolen and the police aren't after you its not going to be traced with the alternative of everything is logged and traced back to you whether you want it to be so or not.
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November 11, 2014, 08:02:50 AM
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Well that's a first, a guy called UnunoctiumTesticles is preaching the bible to me lol, just so you know, since you're clearly new here, I'm an Anarchist.

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November 11, 2014, 08:03:44 AM
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Well that's a first, a guy called UnunoctiumTesticles is preaching the bible to me lol, just so you know, since you're clearly new here, I'm an Anarchist.

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He's right though.   Undecided

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November 11, 2014, 12:05:04 PM
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Stay on topic guys!

That includes you, titlicker

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Stay on topic guys!

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What's the topic?  "This is ridiculous"  ??

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