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January 03, 2016, 12:45:42 AM
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Well PsychoticBoy seems to be good enough but i still prefer SebastianJu
Both are +12 (trust), from PsychoticBoy's posts i see him inactive for many months but from the trust i see that he was active almost a month ago.
SebastianJu is active mostly every day and that's why i suggested to be SebastianJu in the "Big 5" list.

Both are not +12, you forget to take your personal trust setting into account.

This is the current stats:
SebastianJu 70: -0 / +11
PsychoticBoy 108: -0 / +12

When that is said, one have a signature campaign to maintain the other do not, this could explain the difference in post activity (no offense meant to Sebastian, I think his posts are great).  PB is to my experience one of the most responsive escrows I have dealt with, you don't need to make posts everyday in order to be be a good escrow. Being responsive towards the clients is the important thing.

I respect your opinion, we all have our own personal list of escrows that we feel comfortable with. I was mostly referring to this statement you made:

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Because nobody from "Others" deserves to be in that list before SebastianJu.

SebastianJu is a respectable escrow in this community, but so is PsychoticBoy (btw. he is also former staff member of this community), I think you went a bit to far be saying that he do not deserve to be before Sebastian,.

Ok, i withdraw my words, you are right, when i checked before i checked the activity and that's why i made "my own list" of escrows and SebastianJu was one of my favorite
Anyways we should be happy that both of them are good escrow and i would put them both in the "Big 6" list Smiley.
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January 03, 2016, 12:55:53 AM
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Ok, i withdraw my words, you are right, when i checked before i checked the activity and that's why i made "my own list" of escrows and SebastianJu was one of my favorite
Anyways we should be happy that both of them are good escrow and i would put them both in the "Big 6" list Smiley.

Agreed, everybody should be thankful for both of them. Escrows are not appreciated enough for the work they do for the community, not sure people realize how difficult trading would be without reliable escrows?

Also like I mentioned, we all got our favorite list that we match up against the counterpart we do trades with. Naturally, will you feel more comfortable with an escrow you have done business (successful) with before, since he has already proven his worth to you. Interestingly enough, does the real quality of an escrow only show when there is a problem and the escrow have to step in to arbitrate or overrule the payout terms.

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January 03, 2016, 01:06:06 AM
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Marcotheminer, I didn't stop escrowing. I just don't want to be on this list anymore as nobody reads anything when they come from this thread.

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January 03, 2016, 01:43:45 AM
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Question...

Are marcotheminer & devthedev the same person?

If one of them could answer this with a yes or no I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

marcotheminer: Do you happen to be devthedev as well?  I'm wondering why you have him at #1 despite his low trust rating and lack of time here on these forums.  I noticed he joined around the same time as you, has a similar name/number of posts, and a similar writing style...
This is a weird accussation. Nonetheless I will address it. No, I am not devthedev. I don't know him personally (as with everyone else on the forum), but strongly believe he deserves a spot in the 'Big 5'.

He answered it in 2014 the first time you asked him, back when I was still one of the Big Five.

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January 03, 2016, 01:56:19 AM
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Well PsychoticBoy seems to be good enough but i still prefer SebastianJu
Both are +12 (trust), from PsychoticBoy's posts i see him inactive for many months but from the trust i see that he was active almost a month ago.
SebastianJu is active mostly every day and that's why i suggested to be SebastianJu in the "Big 5" list.

Both are not +12, you forget to take your personal trust setting into account.

This is the current stats:
SebastianJu 70: -0 / +11
PsychoticBoy 108: -0 / +12

When that is said, one have a signature campaign to maintain the other do not, this could explain the difference in post activity (no offense meant to Sebastian, I think his posts are great).  PB is to my experience one of the most responsive escrows I have dealt with, you don't need to make posts everyday in order to be be a good escrow. Being responsive towards the clients is the important thing.

I respect your opinion, we all have our own personal list of escrows that we feel comfortable with. I was mostly referring to this statement you made:

--snip
Because nobody from "Others" deserves to be in that list before SebastianJu.

SebastianJu is a respectable escrow in this community, but so is PsychoticBoy (btw. he is also former staff member of this community), I think you went a bit to far be saying that he do not deserve to be before Sebastian,.

They both have low trust scores if you ask me  Roll Eyes Sub 300 is lowwwwww
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January 03, 2016, 01:59:56 AM
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They both have low trust scores if you ask me  Roll Eyes Sub 300 is lowwwwww
Coming from a person who has the highest trust score .... heh.
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January 03, 2016, 02:02:09 AM
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In all seriousness, I think either of them are pretty solid for escrowing. I think only OgNasty and I have passed the +300 range.
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January 03, 2016, 03:12:35 AM
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Master-p is still in the list Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

At least when you open his profile it's like a RED Christmas Tree Cheesy

Removed. Sorry about the delay. Smiley

Thanks, bud. Now, about having AL's Escrow Service fill the void...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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January 03, 2016, 06:27:33 AM
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Well, escrow and forum are now safe.. until next master-p Cheesy Lucky  for me i used it just 4-5 days before he gone "keylogged/hacked".

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January 03, 2016, 08:40:38 AM
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Master-p is still in the list Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

At least when you open his profile it's like a RED Christmas Tree Cheesy

Removed. Sorry about the delay. Smiley

Thanks, bud. Now, about having AL's Escrow Service fill the void...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yea lets use anything associated with Bruno

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Master-p is still in the list Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

At least when you open his profile it's like a RED Christmas Tree Cheesy

Removed. Sorry about the delay. Smiley

Thanks, bud. Now, about having AL's Escrow Service fill the void...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yea lets use anything associated with Bruno

Gleb Gamow Bruno Kucinskas Is a scammer, a thief, a Liar and an Extortionist.

What a fuckin' idiot this Leroy Fodor is. He links you to a thread depicting what a fuckin' scammer I am, and when you go to it, it's locked. That's why I had to mirror his locked thread on my scammy ass so that Bitcoiners would have a place to pen what kind of piece of shit I truly am, and it's not locked nor self-moderated. Here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012729.0

Meanwhile, the following is just a small sample of how Leroy Fodor has been proven a liar:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/pos-mining-stakeminers-com/3925/700

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It does not say if you want to be a serious investor, it says if you are serious about investing, please lets not twist words, I deal with it enough from Suchmoon and Bruno. He was saying , as I am taking it, if you are serious and would like to invest but have questions about the service to ask.

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I have been trying to work with them but the problem is the structure of the business itself they are running an ISP like an internet cafe making people share lines. We get 860 KBPS across the street in our home but our cafe only is getting 16 to 30 today it is 6 to 16kbps. the funny thing is my cafe is right next to the pole and the house has a line spliced into the middle of the main line and ran across the street 20 to 25 meters(about 65feet) away.

16-01-14  01:10 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?50436-Match-making

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Ok Well first I live in the philippines, I used to own an internet cafe and the problem was not a problem at all, because there were always people playing HoN/[CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN]/LoL 24 hours a day and we could make teams that way, but I sold the cafe and now play by myself, Finding dependable friends to play with is not as easy as you may think. If I were in America I would easily find them many different portals to start a clan all in the same house to play HoN. No problem there, I have a lot of friends in my list on HoN however usually only 3 to 4 online at a time. I however spend a good portion of my day online usually playing either [CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN][CENSORED BY ADMIN], HoN or LoL, sometimes I delve into starcraft 2 defense tower matches, and other games, I only have 250 games on my computer. hehe.

01-03-14  02:06 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?51276-Looking-for-Active-Players&p=338370&viewfull=1#post338370

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And again i am not a hybrid, I am not Filipino or Pinoy none of the above, I live here thats all, I was not born here, Neither my mom nor dad was Filipino, they were Italian actually, I do not like it here to be honest, but this is where I am at the present moment, and I have seen many MANY Filipino players, and I can tell you, they are better than what you have experienced. I would say your experiences come from the rich kids at home comfy in their chair. The real players play in cafes, and dont have tons of money, and my cafe was one of the only cafes in our area that even offered HoN in their gaming network, most only offer Dot@1 so I can imagine what players you are actually getting from the Philippines.

15-03-14  01:28 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?51560-Something-really-wrong-w-the-forums&p=339193&viewfull=1#post339193

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I was thinking the same thing LOL

I do not know why people report IGNs maybe they got mad about something else and the IGN was the only thinng they could legally report about.

This is a SEA site there for most people here do have broken english.

Most people including OPs do not read all of the thread and replys before posting.

I can say I own a cafe, therefore instead of wasting time in the forums most peope just want to play, they pay for their time on the internet by the minute, so a lot of people in Phils, who use cafes, dont have time for the forums.

I actually did read the TOS

22-03-14  04:16 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?51666-Legacy-Accounts-Still-Work

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Hello this is more an informative post. I own a cafe and I I am asked constantly what a Legacy account is and what it does. I knew some of the answers because I activated it once about 2 months ago. But then I saw a post that said Legacy accounts were no more. In garena Hon you do have legacy accounts. I do not know about EA. I can show now the steps of how to redeem your legacy account.

07-04-2013 01:09 PM: http://forum.lol.garena.ph/showthread.php?51165-Connectivity-Issue-7-03-2013&p=856455&viewfull=1#post856455

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My cafe will give you guys some time to fix, but with the already bad reputation of LOL and problems of this scale I dont see how it is even worth it to install the game on my other computers. We are very VERY serious Dota and HoN players with tournaments, team matches, clan battles and many other things we offer our customers. but problems like this will only ruin my day with the complaints from my customers. If I can't fix the problem myself and it is out of my hands, it really bothers me. I am a customer satisfaction business, and when others problems effect my customer satisfaction it creates problems with me.. We are competitors and we hate to lose, especially when its a technical malfunction we can not control.

Please fix this error so i can better judge the plyworthiness of this game in my cafe.

11-04-14  03:14 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?51958-Why-the-censor-of-the-word-Dot&p=341489&viewfull=1#post341489

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The lack of player base must equal the difference in lifestyle expendatures. Lets take Philippines as an example. In philippines we spend 1000 pesos and get roughly 1100 gold coins. 1000 pesos is a lot of money for a person to spend on a game considering they make roughly 250 pesos a day to work. 1000 pesos is only 22 us dollars. As an avid gamer my wife and I both played games while living in america spending 40 dollars each 1 time to 2 times a week on 3 different game4s, Plus Netflix, and all our other entertainment, satellite TV cable TV 10MBPS internet connection, cell phones, so on and so forth. Mostly because to us 40 bucks each was nothing to spend on a game we enjoy playing together. On Average a Filipino may, and I stress MAY spend this 1000 pesos once maybe 2 times a year unless something happy happens and he has another time he may have the extra money. But most likely they will spend absolutely nothing on the game at all. I can tell you owning a cafe for a year, not 1 single customer has ever bought or used garena shells. Not 1. They concentrate more on putting their money into the computers and dont care about the extra costs for the games themselves. And I have people that come from about 12 different cities and play in my cafe.

Knowing all of this I estimate altho you have a massive amount of people playing on these servers how many of them are actually spending money?

15-05-14  05:18 AM: http://forum.hon.garena.com/showthread.php?52312-Queue-times&p=344076&viewfull=1#post344076

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So why are you wasting your time and reply at all HAHAHA

To all the others thank you, I was not whining as flamboyant flamberge noted, I was wondering what my next step would be, Something flamberge does not understand is in cafes sometimes you dont have 20 to 40 minutes to wait around, I dont have that rpoblem but many others who use cafes do, they have to pay for theirtime by the minute, this thread is a good way for anyone to set their MMR at a respectable time conserving area, a place where they know they can sit and play unranked games with a time wait in their frame of time. I see so many games where people get DC not because of bad connection but because they waited 18 minutes to connect to a game thehn their alloted time on the arcade ran out so they have no choice but to leave the cafe. if you are in a ga,e with me in my cafe Ill throw a few pesos in your machine so you can finish your game. but not all owneres are like me.

I needed to know a good area to stop raising my MMR and play unranked games with little wait times. That was why i started this thread. Yes flamberge you are right the game itself is free, but to many Filipinos being able to play the free game is not so free.

July 14, 2014: https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/4000281083

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Below is a picture of a referral train I tried to set up in my cafe, everyone in my cafe as well as 3rd tier referrals were denied. without a way for me to appealthe denial and give proof of our actions I lost the referrals and now the ones who tried to connect into the system will be banned because we tried to connect under the same IP once already.

https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/attachments/4004475392

November 23, 2014, 02:34:54 AM:


Ahh and now the attack on the country where I am, well let me share something with you. Cyberpinoy was the name of our internet cafe, (one of the businesses we sold) I in fact am not Filipino. I am american and a YANKEE of all horrible things HAHAHA.  Always remember its not very nice to judge people by the stupidity that is spread about their lifestyles or the uneducated stereotype rumors about where they are from.If I were to believe things like this I would assume since you are from Georgia, you are an inbred moron who most likely ate your sister mistaking her for a pig. You are most likely missing over half your teeth, bath in the river once a month,  and still staring at your Miners wondering how the mouse and keyboard connect to this computer HAHAHA. I would be careful how you stereotype people being from Georgia HAHAHA you guys have a few of your own.

And FYI the Philippines is not the country that killed their female young that was China and it was a very long time ago. Please update your library of books, or just get online and google stuff before you make such ridiculous posts.

November 29, 2014, 08:57:45 PM:

It is astounding to me how utterly stupid the Filipino people are. As an american living here i have noticed a lot about Filoipino native people. this is a country of opportunists. It has a population of people where 90% of the people are scammers, con artists, thieves, beggers, lazy with their hand out, want to get money for nothing people. Even the Huge business corporations are no different. Their business structure is lacking in so many aspects of true honest business. Their lifestyle lacks ethics of any kind, and the rule among thieves does not apply to these people. They are a monkey see monkey try and do kind of people. A follow the leader mentality. SO why more of these people who want to sit on their ass and do nothing for money have not jumped on board with Bitcoins is beyond me. They will sit in front of a computer for hours on end trying every work at home pyramid scheme you can find, I know becasue I own a internet cafe and watch them regularly wasting their time and money. Their ISP IPs are banned all over the internet for spamming, thier business structure lacks common business logic and business ethics. They are a culture full off opportunists who refuse to take advantage of an opportunity that can make them literally rich over here.


22-December-2014, 10:03 AM: http://www.world-bitcoin-forum.com/showthread.php/64492-Bitcoinbegger?p=563618&viewfull=1#post563618

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All you have done is increased awareness to his site, My family and I went thru a fire that destroyed our first mining farm with solar panels, as well as a 15 unit Internet cafe a Disco bar and a small grocery store, and above all our home and everything we owned. I am now stuck in the Philippines where everyone takes advantage of me, even overcharge me to buy the most basic needs like meat and other food. I can not get a job of any kind. We also asked the Bitcoin community for help even put our land up for sale for Bitcoins or to be used as collateral for a Bitcoin loan, We got nothing, not 1 satoshi from the wonderful wallet fulls of bitoins and its community. We could not even get a loan for some bitcoin to get another mining farm started. Everything I have in bitcoins I earned the hard way, working my ass off every day. At least this guy has a job, be it may be a job he is displeased with but he has one, I had to start a bitcoin business with absolutely no money in my pocket, spending sometimes 20 hours straight doing faucets every 15, 30 and 60 minutes religiously. This guy wasted his wealth on a bunch of pump and dump schemes, lost it gambling and doesn't like his job and wants everyone to bail him out. I am happy he chose the ethical route and asked for donations instead of scaming others, but sometimes you just have to buckle down, at least he has an income to try and build a bitcoin business, Try doing it with absolutely NO income of any kind.

The following is a timeline of what Leroy Fodor had to say about owning, selling, losing, etc., his Internet cafe there in the Philippines.

December 8 (local date), 2012: Leroy Fodor's cafe burnt to the ground.

May 26, 2013: Cafe operational.

July 4, 2013: My cafe...

January 16, 2014: I sold the cafe.

March 1, 2014: ...my cafe was one of the only cafes in our area...

March 15, 2014: I own a cafe.

March 22, 2014: I own a cafe.

April 7, 2014: My cafe will give you guys...

April 11, 2014: And I have people that come from about 12 different cities and play in my cafe.

May 15, 2014: ...in my cafe...

July 14, 2014: ...in my cafe...

October 23, 2014: Looking for a loan... I ended up selling the land...

November 23, 2014: Cyberpinoy was the name of our internet cafe, (one of the businesses we sold).

November 29, 2014: I own a internet cafe

December 22, 2014: ...a fire that destroyed our first mining farm with solar panels, as well as a 15 unit Internet cafe...

All the above is by Leroy Fodor depicting his INTERNET CAFE sans any twisted commentary by myself, Bruno.
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January 03, 2016, 10:19:22 PM
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Well PsychoticBoy seems to be good enough but i still prefer SebastianJu
Both are +12 (trust), from PsychoticBoy's posts i see him inactive for many months but from the trust i see that he was active almost a month ago.
SebastianJu is active mostly every day and that's why i suggested to be SebastianJu in the "Big 5" list.

Both are not +12, you forget to take your personal trust setting into account.

This is the current stats:
SebastianJu 70: -0 / +11
PsychoticBoy 108: -0 / +12

When that is said, one have a signature campaign to maintain the other do not, this could explain the difference in post activity (no offense meant to Sebastian, I think his posts are great).  PB is to my experience one of the most responsive escrows I have dealt with, you don't need to make posts everyday in order to be be a good escrow. Being responsive towards the clients is the important thing.

I respect your opinion, we all have our own personal list of escrows that we feel comfortable with. I was mostly referring to this statement you made:

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Because nobody from "Others" deserves to be in that list before SebastianJu.

SebastianJu is a respectable escrow in this community, but so is PsychoticBoy (btw. he is also former staff member of this community), I think you went a bit to far be saying that he do not deserve to be before Sebastian,.

Not wanting to chime in since i had no contact with PsychoticBoy till now, i only wanted to say a word about my online times. I usually log in to read the new escrow private messages i receive because there are practically always new ones and lately i started to get a notification on my smartphone when i have a new pm coming in. In an effort to lower the reaction time.

When i post then it's most of the time in threads iam active in, i don't have much time for reading on the forum since it's pretty time consuming so when i have time i check all the answers in the threads and answer there. Though when i come online it is because i know new private messages came in.

Only as a notice. Smiley And thanks for those who trust me. It means something to me.

Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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January 06, 2016, 10:01:01 AM
Last edit: January 06, 2016, 10:16:25 AM by subSTRATA
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escrow.ms has started escrowing again, he should probably be moved up to the big 5.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235452.msg13304374#msg13304374

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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January 06, 2016, 10:04:33 AM
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escrow.ms has started escrowing again, he should probably be moved up to the big 5.
True thought of suggesting that (while I didn't have connectivity) and always slipped my mind(when I actually came up).
Edit: Post fixed
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January 06, 2016, 10:31:23 AM
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Once again:

Marcotheminer, I didn't stop escrowing. I just don't want to be on this list anymore as nobody reads anything when they come from this thread.

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January 06, 2016, 05:54:03 PM
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hey can u send me detail what is escrow ?
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January 07, 2016, 04:13:55 AM
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hey can u send me detail what is escrow ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow

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January 07, 2016, 03:58:05 PM
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not sure escrow here is great idea as last one ripped me off for 2.5 btc then weeks later the real guy said he sold the account and till a few days back was on the approved list here

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January 07, 2016, 04:15:43 PM
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This is the best option to do business with someone you don't know and don't trust. Be sure to use it when doing businesses with strangers!
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January 07, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
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Once again:

Marcotheminer, I didn't stop escrowing. I just don't want to be on this list anymore as nobody reads anything when they come from this thread.

Fixed! Sorry about that. Smiley
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