Live Discussion on kenija2012 ~ Ended! But feel free to add posts.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

LIVE DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD IN 30 MINUTES 2:00 PM CST in US

EDIT: With important part in bold.

Thanks Bruno for creating this!

Just to clarify, I am not going to Kenya, I am just the "bitcoin guy", so to speak As such I'll try to educate them enough for them to spread the word around (we're always talking about bitcoin being a perfect currency for a third-world country, right)?

This is a great opportunity for anyone who has questions about expedition to get proper answers (ones I couldn't give myself).

In 2 hours (2:00 CST in US, use time stamp of this post as guide), there will be an impromptu discussion about kenija2012.net.

@vuce: Please clarify and correct any of the following:

vuce and the medical team that are schedule to go to Kenya this fall will be on this forum live to ask questions of us regarding Bitcoin. All users here are encouraged to participate.

The main topic will be in reference to the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84497.0

They may ask many specific questions about Bitcoin in general, therefore I hope that members here will be able to address their questions and concerns in as layman terms as possible, coupled with offering up appropriate links. I'll be here, as well, doing the best I can, but the presence of seasoned Bitcoiners are truly needed.

This thread could easily act in that capacity for the dialog that's scheduled to ensue in two hours.

Thank you for your support.

~Bruno~

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[Tuxavant]

Why aren't we using a freenode web chat room?

Wouldnt that be better? the chat log could be posted here afterward.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Why aren't we using a freenode web chat room?

Wouldnt that be better? the chat log could be posted here afterward.

I don't care one way or the other, but please provide me a link to what you've suggested for I've never used such a service before but would if I knew how.

Thanks for the suggestion, Tux.

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

@vuce: Please take care of all the details in regards to this event. I'm going to be out of pocket for the next hour, but will be back in time to get up to speed and help spread the word.

~Bruno~

[vuce]

LIVE DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD IN 2 HOURS

In 2 hours (2:00 CST in US, use time stamp of this post as guide), there will be an impromptu discussion about kenija2012.net.

@vuce: Please clarify and correct any of the following:

vuce and the medical team that are schedule to go to Kenya this fall will be on this forum live to ask questions of us regarding Bitcoin. All users here are encouraged to participate.

The main topic will be in reference to the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84497.0

They may ask many specific questions about Bitcoin in general, therefore I hope that members here will be able to address their questions and concerns in as layman terms as possible, coupled with offering up appropriate links. I'll be here, as well, doing the best I can, but the presence of seasoned Bitcoiners are truly needed.

This thread could easily act in that capacity for the dialog that's scheduled to ensue in two hours.

Thank you for your support.

~Bruno~

Thanks Bruno for creating this!

Just to clarify, I am not going to Kenya, I am just the "bitcoin guy", so to speak As such I'll try to educate them enough for them to spread the word around (we're always talking about bitcoin being a perfect currency for a third-world country, right)?

This is a great opportunity for anyone who has questions about expedition to get proper answers (ones I couldn't give myself).

[Tuxavant]

http://webchat.freenode.net/?&channels=#kenija2012

Short URL: http://goo.gl/993ao

[Phinnaeus Gage]

http://webchat.freenode.net/?&channels=#kenija2012

Short URL: http://goo.gl/993ao

45 Minutes remaining!

[kenija2012]

http://webchat.freenode.net/?&channels=#kenija2012

Short URL: http://goo.gl/993ao

Sorry guys but webchat doesnt work on ipad, so well have to do this here... Questions!

edit: false alarm, sorry

[Phinnaeus Gage]

http://webchat.freenode.net/?&channels=#kenija2012

Short URL: http://goo.gl/993ao

Sorry guys but webchat doesnt work on ipad, so well have to do this here... Questions!

No problem what-so-ever, kenija2012. Here, it is! We look forward to helping out.

~Bruno~

[hazek]

What is the most important aspect of Bitcoin in your opinion?

[kenija2012]

What is the most important aspect of Bitcoin in your opinion?

decentralization,i think that makes bitcoin really atand out from all other currencies.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

What is the most important aspect of Bitcoin in your opinion?

I'm glad you asked that question now, hazek, for I thought only of them asking questions, not thinking that we can ask them questions as well.

That said, I guess we can start asking questions now, thus having something for them to address when they get started on their end.

The main topic of this thread will be about Kenija2012 (their trip to Kenya) and the important facets of Bitcoin. The more they know about Bitcoin, the better they will be able to explain it down the road when asked how part of their trip was financed.

My first question: When is the tentative departure date?

~Bruno~

[kenija2012]

What is the most important aspect of Bitcoin in your opinion?

I'm glad you asked that question now, hazek, for I thought only of them asking questions, not thinking that we can ask them questions as well.

That said, I guess we can start asking questions now, thus having something for them to address when they get started on their end.

The main topic of this thread will be about Kenija2012 (their trip to Kenya) and the important facets of Bitcoin. The more they know about Bitcoin, the better they will be able to explain it down the road when asked how part of their trip was financed.

My first question: When is the tentative departure date?

~Bruno~

departure date is on 7/27.

[hazek]

Čaki čaki, kaj to ste slovenci?? 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I've locked the other thread til the discussion here has ended, thus keeping the dialog in one place.

Question: Would you like free copies of Bitcoin Magazine to use as reading material for on your trip to Kenya? If so, how many? I will pay for them provided, of course, you promise to take a picture(s) of said magazine using Kenya as a backdrop with the hope of having Matthew and his team include an article with said picture(s) for some upcoming issue of Bitcoin Magazine.

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Čaki čaki, kaj to ste slovenci?? 

Ain't this special! Rassah in 5...4...3...

[edd]

Are there more trips like this planned for the future?

Might this be a good opportunity to lay a foundation and procedures for funding future expeditions with bitcoin donations?

[hazek]

Phinnaeus Gage I completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread, I thought it was going to be a live chat with them where we, the Bitcoin community, ask them qestions but no I see that it's actually meant to be the other way around where they would like to ask us question so that they better understand Bitcoin, or do I still misunderstand what is happening in this thread?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Are there more trips like this planned for the future?

Might this be a good opportunity to lay a foundation and procedures for funding future expeditions with bitcoin donations?

I'm leaning toward to that aspect with Bitcoin 100. It may be best to work with the these small groups, thus letting the large non-profits come to us and ask, opposed to the current way--us asking them.

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Phinnaeus Gage I completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread, I thought it was going to be a live chat with them where we, the Bitcoin community, ask them qestions but no I see that it's actually meant to be the other way around where they would like to ask us question so that they better understand Bitcoin, or do I still misunderstand what is happening in this thread?

Your first post, then my follow-up reply, made it clear that it can be both ways. Please accept my apology for any misunderstanding(s).

The bottom line is that there is going to be a live discussion, using this thread as the medium of exchange, between Slovenian medical students seeking funding for their trip to Kenya and Bitcoiners from this community.

~Bruno~

[kenija2012]

Phinnaeus Gage I completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread, I thought it was going to be a live chat with them where we, the Bitcoin community, ask them qestions but no I see that it's actually meant to be the other way around where they would like to ask us question so that they better understand Bitcoin, or do I still misunderstand what is happening in this thread?

you understood correctly, i though people wanted to ask more questions about the expecition.

[kenija2012]

Are there more trips like this planned for the future?

Might this be a good opportunity to lay a foundation and procedures for funding future expeditions with bitcoin donations?

the section of tropical medicine in Slovenia organizes humanitarian expeditions allover the world, not only to Africa, usually about every three months. Here (http://www.stpm.org/index.php/destinacije) are listed all other expeditions, usually every one of them is in need of aditional funds, sothis would surely be appreciated.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Phinnaeus Gage I completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread, I thought it was going to be a live chat with them where we, the Bitcoin community, ask them qestions but no I see that it's actually meant to be the other way around where they would like to ask us question so that they better understand Bitcoin, or do I still misunderstand what is happening in this thread?

you understood correctly, i though people wanted to ask more questions about the expecition.

We sure do but, moreover, we want to make sure you're up to speed of what Bitcoin is and is not, therefore allowing you to pass on knowledge gleaned from us to others of your ilk that may also be interested in Bitcoin.

Can I assume we're currently speaking with the woman that vuce told us would be joining this forum? And if so, may I be so blunt and ask your name since it'll probably be no secret being that that relative information will be on your website?

~Bruno~

[hazek]

Ok some more questions then:

Have you already raised all the money you need or are you still fundraising?
Have you made any prior arrangements with any of the locals or are you going in blind so to speak?
How long do you intend to stay?
Have you thought about how you're going to ensure your safety?
Do you have any mental strategies prepared to deal with probably not so rosy circumstances you about to find yourselves in?


I think that's enough for now.  

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Ok some more questions then:

Have you already raised all the money you need or are you still fundraising?
Have you made any prior arrangements with any of the locals or are you going in blind so to speak?
How long do you intend to stay?
Have you thought about how you're going to ensure your safety?
Do you have any mental strategies prepared to deal with probably not so rosy circumstances you about to find yourselves in?

I think that's enough for now.  

And we look forward to your questions as well.

How many are currently in attendanceon your end, kenija2012?

~Bruno~

[hazek]

..therefore allowing you to pass on knowledge gleaned from us to others of your ilk that may also be interested in Bitcoin..

I doubt there will be many opportunities for teaching about Bitcoin when they'll have their hands full with medical work, maybe if they meet any local entrepreneurs they could introduce the idea to is probably the best chance they'll have.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

..therefore allowing you to pass on knowledge gleaned from us to others of your ilk that may also be interested in Bitcoin..

I doubt there will be many opportunities for teaching about Bitcoin when they'll have their hands full with medical work, maybe if they meet any local entrepreneurs they could introduce the idea to is probably the best chance they'll have.

I was in reference to their fellow classmates at their university, along with all the other people they know and will meet. Educating Kenyans was at the bottom of my list when I mention that they could help spread the word about Bitcoin.

~Bruno~

Edit: I somehow misread your post, hazek. I don't have the foggiest idea where I thought you were referring to teaching Kenyans about Bitcoin. Sorry, bud.

[hazek]

Oh, yeah that makes way more sense 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Oh, yeah that makes way more sense 

I've edited my post, but the quoted reply is in reference to my post which, in retrospect, saying the same thing (sans the edit), hence making more sense.

BTW, where did the Slovenians go?

~Bruno~

[kenija2012]

Ok some more questions then:

Have you already raised all the money you need or are you still fundraising?
Have you made any prior arrangements with any of the locals or are you going in blind so to speak?
How long do you intend to stay?
Have you thought about how you're going to ensure your safety?
Do you have any mental strategies prepared to deal with probably not so rosy circumstances you about to find yourselves in?


I think that's enough for now.  

We are still collecting funds and in case if we dont collect enought we will pay the difference from our pockets...after all it is an interesting experience for us and we dont want to miss it...

On every location earlier expeditions set up temporary little houses where we try to provide continous medical care and educational programs.

Every three months goes another team there...or at least we try to be there as much as possible....

Section for tropical medicine organizes every year many lectures so that we have knowledge about tropical diseases and we also take the needed immunizations and drugs for us as well.

well we will just have to go with the flow...

[hazek]

Cool, želim vam srečno in varno potavanje in da doživite vse kar si želite doživet

Now ask questions about Bitcoin so we can plug any holes you may have in your knowledge about it.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Cool, želim vam srečno in varno potavanje in da doživite vse kar si želite doživet

Now ask questions about Bitcoin so we can plug any holes you may have in your knowledge about it.

Je to ekipo, ki bo Kenija?



Translated: Is this the team that is going to Kenya?

We look forward to answering your questions as well, TeamKenya.

~Bruno~

[hazek]

Je to ekipo, ki bo Kenija?

Lol nice try, but I'm not using google translate   What you just wrote should actually look like this: Je to ekipa, ki bo odšla v Kenijo?  

[kenija2012]

Cool, želim vam srečno in varno potavanje in da doživite vse kar si želite doživet

Now ask questions about Bitcoin so we can plug any holes you may have in your knowledge about it.

Je to ekipo, ki bo Kenija?

http://kenijaodprava.blogspot.si/files/2012/04/ognjisce.jpg

Translated: Is this the team that is going to Kenya?

We look forward to answering your questions as well, TeamKenya.

~Bruno~

yes, this is the team, but i am missing on that picture.

We have thoroughly questioned vuce about bitcoin already

[kenija2012]

Cool, želim vam srečno in varno potavanje in da doživite vse kar si želite doživet

Now ask questions about Bitcoin so we can plug any holes you may have in your knowledge about it.

Hvala:)

[Maged]

Well, if you ever bring up the topic of Bitcoin, here are our official talking points:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations

If you still have questions after reading that, let us know!

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Well, if you ever bring up the topic of Bitcoin, here are our official talking points:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations

If you still have questions after reading that, let us know!

Thank you, Maged!

Hey, vuce, are you here?

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Exactly how many will be going? 4 or 6? Would you consider all wearing shirts with a Bitcoin logo on them and have your picture picture taken by a Kenyan using the Kenyan countryside as the backdrop?

The reason I'm asking is I feel that with such photos (I mentioned Bitcoin Magazine earlier to be used in a photshoot), a great article can be written about your trip for inclusion in an upcoming Bitcoin Magazine issue this fall (before Christmas).

~Bruno~

[kenija2012]

Exactly how many will be going? 4 or 6? Would you consider all wearing shirts with a Bitcoin logo on them and have your picture picture taken by a Kenyan using the Kenyan countryside as the backdrop?

The reason I'm asking is I feel that with such photos (I mentioned Bitcoin Magazine earlier to be used in a photshoot), a great article can be written about your trip for inclusion in an upcoming Bitcoin Magazine issue this fall (before Christmas).

~Bruno~

I have already contacted edd telling him we would of course wear them and post pictures of wearing them in kenya.

As for the articles we have no problem with that as long as we get to see (and correct it) beforehand.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Exactly how many will be going? 4 or 6? Would you consider all wearing shirts with a Bitcoin logo on them and have your picture picture taken by a Kenyan using the Kenyan countryside as the backdrop?

The reason I'm asking is I feel that with such photos (I mentioned Bitcoin Magazine earlier to be used in a photshoot), a great article can be written about your trip for inclusion in an upcoming Bitcoin Magazine issue this fall (before Christmas).

~Bruno~

I have already contacted edd telling him we would of course wear them and post pictures of wearing them in kenya.

As for the articles we have no problem with that as long as we get to see (and correct it) beforehand.

Boy, that's a tough one! I'm not sure if Matthew will allow anybody else to "Doctor" his baby, but I'll ask him. 

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Do you desire free copies of Bitcoin Magazine as well to bring to Kenya?

~Bruno~

[edd]

As for the articles we have no problem with that as long as we get to see (and correct it) beforehand.

Boy, that's a tough one! I'm not sure if Matthew will allow anybody else to "Doctor" his baby, but I'll ask him. 

~Bruno~

Seems to me this would be a request the subject of almost any article would make if they could. Whomever writes the article might want to conduct an interview to glean more info.

[vuce]

Hi guys,

I'm sorry if we missed some questions, turns out ipad isn't the best thing for doing this, but my laptop keeps disconnecting from wireless so we were stuck with that. We were at the coffee shop until they threw us out but I hope she now knows how to use the forum and will periodically check for new questions.

[vuce]

Do you desire free copies of Bitcoin Magazine as well to bring to Kenya?

~Bruno~

I have to admit these guys aren't that technically savvy, so I don't know how much good that would do, but if you want pictures of the magazine in kenya I'm sure that could be arranged.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Do you desire free copies of Bitcoin Magazine as well to bring to Kenya?

~Bruno~

I have to admit these guys aren't that technically savvy, so I don't know how much good that would do, but if you want pictures of the magazine in kenya I'm sure that could be arranged.

Well, that saved me some money. I guess two copies would suffice. No use having six individuals arrested at the airport for being in possession of horse-head-porn. (explain the joke to them if they're not up to speed)

Please PM me where I should have the copies delivered to. They will be delivered via whatever entity over at Bitcoin Magazine has in place to deliver said issues. I'm simply paying for them.

If anybody else has any other ideas of what other Bitcoin related props we can send to Kenya, please let us know.

With that, I'm reopening the other two threads that I closed, and will keep this open.

~Bruno~

[vuce]

Exactly how many will be going? 4 or 6? Would you consider all wearing shirts with a Bitcoin logo on them and have your picture picture taken by a Kenyan using the Kenyan countryside as the backdrop?

The reason I'm asking is I feel that with such photos (I mentioned Bitcoin Magazine earlier to be used in a photshoot), a great article can be written about your trip for inclusion in an upcoming Bitcoin Magazine issue this fall (before Christmas).

~Bruno~

I have already contacted edd telling him we would of course wear them and post pictures of wearing them in kenya.

As for the articles we have no problem with that as long as we get to see (and correct it) beforehand.

Boy, that's a tough one! I'm not sure if Matthew will allow anybody else to "Doctor" his baby, but I'll ask him.  

~Bruno~

You have to understand they are under a very watchful eye of the section of tropical medicine, and there can't be any "sloppy press" (and we all know how quickly that happens with all the sloppy bitcoin articles floating around). (not accusing anyone of anything, just stating the concern)

Do you desire free copies of Bitcoin Magazine as well to bring to Kenya?

~Bruno~

I have to admit these guys aren't that technically savvy, so I don't know how much good that would do, but if you want pictures of the magazine in kenya I'm sure that could be arranged.

Well, that saved me some money. I guess two copies would suffice. No use having six individuals arrested at the airport for being in possession of horse-head-porn. (explain the joke to them if they're not up to speed)

Please PM me where I should have the copies delivered to. They will be delivered via whatever entity over at Bitcoin Magazine has in place to deliver said issues. I'm simply paying for them.

If anybody else has any other ideas of what other Bitcoin related props we can send to Kenya, please let us know.

With that, I'm reopening the other two threads that I closed, and will keep this open.

~Bruno~

That is very generous of you (as is everything you've already done for us), Bruno, thanks! I can pm you my address and I'll give them the copies in person, if that's ok with you?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Exactly how many will be going? 4 or 6? Would you consider all wearing shirts with a Bitcoin logo on them and have your picture picture taken by a Kenyan using the Kenyan countryside as the backdrop?

The reason I'm asking is I feel that with such photos (I mentioned Bitcoin Magazine earlier to be used in a photshoot), a great article can be written about your trip for inclusion in an upcoming Bitcoin Magazine issue this fall (before Christmas).

~Bruno~

I have already contacted edd telling him we would of course wear them and post pictures of wearing them in kenya.

As for the articles we have no problem with that as long as we get to see (and correct it) beforehand.

Boy, that's a tough one! I'm not sure if Matthew will allow anybody else to "Doctor" his baby, but I'll ask him.  

~Bruno~

You have to understand they are under a very watchful eye of the section of tropical medicine, and there can't be any "sloppy press" (and we all know how quickly that happens with all the sloppy bitcoin articles floating around). (not accusing anyone of anything, just stating the concern)

Do you desire free copies of Bitcoin Magazine as well to bring to Kenya?

~Bruno~

I have to admit these guys aren't that technically savvy, so I don't know how much good that would do, but if you want pictures of the magazine in kenya I'm sure that could be arranged.

Well, that saved me some money. I guess two copies would suffice. No use having six individuals arrested at the airport for being in possession of horse-head-porn. (explain the joke to them if they're not up to speed)

Please PM me where I should have the copies delivered to. They will be delivered via whatever entity over at Bitcoin Magazine has in place to deliver said issues. I'm simply paying for them.

If anybody else has any other ideas of what other Bitcoin related props we can send to Kenya, please let us know.

With that, I'm reopening the other two threads that I closed, and will keep this open.

~Bruno~

That is very generous of you (as is everything you've already done for us), Bruno, thanks! I can pm you my address and I'll give them the copies in person, if that's ok with you?

No problem at all with all you've mentioned above, vuce.

~Bruno~