GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[ColdSpirit]

So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Now the question here is:

He blocked you in the twitter (if this is true...) because of the comments on his post

OR

Because you sent him personal messages?

I bet it was the 2nd option.

Now, why not asking these question on hashtalk? In a proper and nice manner?

That why i am sure that you could have more luck in obtaining answers to your question. This way only makes you the same as 99% of the folks in this thread.

But yeah. Good luck and please, dump all your coins now! I would apreciate

I'll sell you my whole account, hashstakers and hp's included. How about that. We find a good reputable escrow and I'll give you my account, you give me Bitcoin. Deal?

Sorry but i don't trust people in this thread.

I prefer buy the coins dumped on exchanges. lol

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[cryptodaknight]

Cryptoknight,

Id liquidate your primes etc to best market price and sell in 5 and 10mh lots thats what i did. cash out 4btc at a time and keep cashouts below 9btc in 24 hours or their manual release system will delay you.

stakers arent sellable yet so write that off as a bad investment. dump xpy hashpoints on an exchange first chance you get. dont use paybase for the risks.

with the dodginess going on now a company with no transparency you dont want having your personal info from KYC. Im hoping to dump hp xpy friday and i'll take what i can get. im closing my zencloud account then.

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I hope everyone is snapshotting and preserving josh's tweets, hashtalk posts etc. This will be instrumental in prosecution later. its not a matter of if now but when.

Sucks cause we were all pretty much semi forced into paycoin and hashstakers. I am now seeing release of some stuff that is less than exciting and downright scary how small this company is compared to what they are showing publicly.

I am stuck, have to wait til everything can be unfrozen to be sold, and even asked if i could unfreeze wallets, they said i cannot, as i agreed to this. Well, got me there, i did, but never expected all this investing early into gawminers. Guess when you get in early you keep telling yourself it's fine, and more and more stuff they release or don't release the feeling in gut gets worse.

I'd give it to josh, he's a damn good salesmen, he's sold people shit for bitcoin.

[galdur]

The government likes this paycoin ?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23950/paybase-kyc/23

 

[T0urist]

People expect a lot because josh promises alot the backflips, removes posts etc. He is always going on about how great it is etc so you cant blame the people for following suit.

So, you can't blame gaw only people
The thing is, there are too much trolls and when they hate nothing is good.
Someone did a bad investment? Blame that person not the company.

Thats debateable. You blame the company if your investment is based on falsehoods that they give. Many would have invested of josh's hype about being partnered with amazon, wallmart, target. yes he did state that early in the piece and removed it (amber helped clean up). That is gaws fault for misleading people not the investors.

They stated to have like 30ph which gives investors reassurance of asset holdings. He cant transparently show it nor the mining pools. same deal misleading investors.

If i started a company then said i have the cure for cancer but dont then its not investor faults. they invested based on lies i told.

[Liquid71]

Wonder what "law" will be cited to justify when they require verification to withdraw paycon to your own wallet.
Not converting to any other currency, just a straight withdraw

We can say the same to circle, to coincorner, to btce, cex  and many other exchanges that need verification from his customers

But yeah, trolls allways need to find anything to troll ahhah

Did they promise to verify anyone before xmas so they can shop with their coins? Homero did  

And no exchange needs KYC for alt to btc conversions..but hey facts don't mean anything when you're part of a cult

[galdur]

I do NOT want to upset the government.

They like XPY right now

Just for the record, hahahahahahaha

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23950/paybase-kyc/23

Don´t forget to save all this hashtalk crap to the wayback machine at archive.org.

[jfabritz]

This page doesn't exist anymore. Hmmmm?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift

Try it now its there

I don't see it at 9:00pm Eastern time. At least someone captured the essence of it in a message here.

You know somebody told him to delete the topic. Josh is a tad thin-skinned and when he is being criticized, will say something extremely unprofessional (stupid) and then delete the topic to hide the evidence.

He is far from CEO material. He is quite childish and I am surprised anyone would get into business with him at the corporate level if they knew how he behaved on these forums.

Edit - DOH, gotta take that back, somehow the link above was wrong so the topic still exists  However, I still stand by the rest of my comment.

[interstellar]

So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?

HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.

Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?

THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.

I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.

HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Now the question here is:

He blocked you in the twitter (if this is true...) because of the comments on his post

OR

Because you sent him personal messages?

I bet it was the 2nd option.

Now, why not asking these question on hashtalk? In a proper and nice manner?

That why i am sure that you could have more luck in obtaining answers to your question. This way only makes you the same as 99% of the folks in this thread.

But yeah. Good luck and please, dump all your coins now! I would apreciate

I'll sell you my whole account, hashstakers and hp's included. How about that. We find a good reputable escrow and I'll give you my account, you give me Bitcoin. Deal?

Sorry but i don't trust people in this thread.

I prefer buy the coins dumped on exchanges. lol

You are welcome here man. We dont ban. We dont censor. Hope your "investment" goes well. If the time comes when your feelings about gaw change, we will still be here.

[ColdSpirit]

Wonder what "law" will be cited to justify when they require verification to withdraw paycon to your own wallet.
Not converting to any other currency, just a straight withdraw

We can say the same to circle, to coincorner, to btce, cex  and many other exchanges that need verification from his customers

But yeah, trolls allways need to find anything to troll ahhah

Stop spreading misinformation. Crypto-to-crypto conversions or plain withdrawals don't require KYC yet,  and GAW is not doing conversion to fiat yet.

Now... it is me who is spreading misinformation of you??
All in this thread is spreading misinformation.

And why the hell is bad having paycoin to have our ID's for crypto-crypto / Crypto-XPY??

[suchmoon]

Some clarification:

One thing that may not be clear. You CAN move from XPY to BTC under a certain limit with no KYC

(why not just say what the limit is?)

NO CYK [sic] will be required to move XPY around

To me this sounds like: you'll be able to dump a certain limited amount of coins on Paybase, or move them out and dump elsewhere without a limit. Otherwise KYC.

[ColdSpirit]

You are welcome here man. We dont ban. We dont censor. Hope your "investment" goes well. If the time comes when your feelings about gaw change, we will still be here.

Nah, if the feeling about gaw change i will not need to be constantly trolling and going to other forums just to say bad. There are better things in life to do than that and better ways to deal with that than troll.

[Liquid71]

Josh doesn't know what KYC is, he keeps calling it CYK..

I almost never go on hashtalk, just get the updates here. I was a "founder" when they sold miners and NEVER joined HT or did any of the cloud ponzi shit. I knew they were incompetent, but the CEO posts a thread about KYC and keeps calling it CYK  

This is just sad, I can't even watch this train wreck anymore. People trust that guy with their money, I find that disturbing and the entertainment value for me has now been lost.

Hope you guys with money stuck in that cluster fuck can get out before it completely implodes, but it's pretty obvious homero won't make it easy for you.

[jimmothy]

And why the hell is bad having paycoin to have our ID's for crypto-crypto / Crypto-XPY??

Why would you want to fork over ID's/personal info to a company that is not a registered MSB?

[I_IZ_CEO]

Just like coinbase, you will need to verify your account to trade paycoin out to btc or fiat. (no groaning here, its the law.)

https://i.imgur.com/mzYLfxs.png
https://i.imgur.com/hBna48N.png

LMFAO.....

If you do a search on that address and the tel# it comes up as many different check cashing companies. LAWL or should I say GAWL..
Mel's corner check cashing
AA State Check Cashing
Gaw Check Cashing
G & R Check Cashing
Payday Loans


Payday Loans and the Rise of Vampire Capitalism

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ethan-rabidoux/payday-loans-and-the-rise_b_6315010.html

I wonder if CEO is part of this

[cryptodaknight]

So it's crazy, they still are unclear about when we get our coins and can trade hashstakers on market. Just sitting ducks, waiting to get shot.

Will everyone rush to exits, or will the sheep buy like crazy come friday and pump this before the dump?

IDK. They also disablied my chat customer support since i hard some harsh words about them and business practices. Guess that means tech support for me is nil now.

Well, guess can only hope to get out still before it fails, 250 million to keep this going on a floor, 100 million would probalby do it.

We all invested in Gaw under false information, and cause of that information we made decisions. Ironicly gaw wants to bring cryptos to masses, i think they are doing exactly opposite, making it so untrustworthy people rather use credit cards.

GOSH DANG zinc plugin app is their 100 million dollar news. FUCK YOU JOSH, CROOK!

[jfabritz]

And no exchange needs KYC for alt to btc conversions..but hey facts don't mean anything when you're part of a cult

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I don't know what he (GAW_ceo) thinks he is trying to pull, but to me it seems like it could be some sort of campaign to prevent people from taking advantage of his "$20" promise.

I can hear it now - "But hey, if you don't want to fill out all this onerous paperwork, you can just spend your XPY with our fancy app. That's GAWSOME right?!?"  

Ugh...

[suchmoon]

It's a gift guys!!!
https://hashtalk.org/topic/23940/small-exhanges-allowing-the-dumping-of-xpy-its-a-gift

GAWCEO

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 using force to have it removed

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This confirms the suspicion - more than anything else said or done by GAW before - that they have no clue what crypto-currency is and how it operates.

[eightcylinders]

And no exchange needs KYC for alt to btc conversions..but hey facts don't mean anything when you're part of a cult

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I don't know what he (GAW_ceo) thinks he is trying to pull, but to me it seems like it could be some sort of campaign to prevent people from taking advantage of his "$20" promise.

I can hear it now - "But hey, if you don't want to fill out all this onerous paperwork, you can just spend your XPY with our fancy app. That's GAWSOME right?!?"  

Ugh...

Yep.  Saw this coming a month ago.  There will be more excuses, hurdles, requirements, limitation, hacking and restrictions in response, etc. all to keep from having to pay out $20 in cash or BTC.  The only think you will be able to buy with XPY within the GAW eco is Hashtakers.

[siampumpkin]

The government likes this paycoin ?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23950/paybase-kyc/23

 

This is just another reason not to pay people their Bitcoin or not to buy your Paycoin at $20. Want to withdrawl, sorry, fill out all the info first so we can never approve it. Want to sell Paycoin, sorry that is only for "KYC" customers, not you! Good luck!

[welchy8764]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23945/paybase-12-22-14

Classic.. This way they can control the coin from being dumped. This is BS