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May 17, 2011, 08:45:31 AM
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Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer implementation of Wei Dai's b-money proposal and Nick Szabo's Bitgold proposal.

Please also expand the article in the wikipedia, if it is possible
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May 17, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
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May 17, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
what i remember from early bitcoin reading, they had the idea posted on a kind of cryptography forum/mailing list
try to find that mailing list's archive and you'll find more of their contributions to the field of study.
and maybe they are alter ego's of satoshi nakawhatever

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May 17, 2011, 12:55:31 PM
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http://lesswrong.com/user/Wei_Dai/
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May 17, 2011, 01:47:34 PM
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here.

Nick Szabo's home page is here.

Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here.
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September 25, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here.

Nick Szabo's home page is here.

Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here.
Interesting... Looks like Wei Dai has put up a Bitcoin address on his home page: 1AkqxLJn8H6Cg5VAaYijzj7hQUSeM2LJ3r. Currently holds 46 BTC.
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September 26, 2012, 12:54:32 AM
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Interesting... Looks like Wei Dai has put up a Bitcoin address on his home page: 1AkqxLJn8H6Cg5VAaYijzj7hQUSeM2LJ3r. Currently holds 46 BTC.

Quote from: Wei Dai
If you read the Wikipedia article, you should know that I didn't create Bitcoin but only described a similar idea more than a decade ago. And my understanding is that the creator of Bitcoin, who goes by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, didn't even read my article before reinventing the idea himself. He learned about it afterward and credited me in his paper. So my connection with the project is quite limited.

BTW, thanks to the discussion you started, I bought a Radeon 5870 and started mining myself, since it looks likely that I can at least break even on the cost of the card. (Of course I heard about Bitcoin earlier, but in my version of the idea, nobody can make large profits by mining/minting, so I didn't look into the possibility.) However I should warn you and others here that I have not analyzed the security of the protocol (since my time is perhaps better spent on other problems at the moment). My understanding is that not many other cryptographers have analyzed its security either, and in my experience these kinds of protocols often have flaws that are not found until that has happened.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/4cs/making_money_with_bitcoin/3lq1
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September 27, 2012, 09:45:50 AM
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here.

Nick Szabo's home page is here.

Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here.

 Nice Satoshi Rick Roll Dice  Cheesy

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September 29, 2012, 08:07:04 PM
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Interesting... Looks like Wei Dai has put up a Bitcoin address on his home page: 1AkqxLJn8H6Cg5VAaYijzj7hQUSeM2LJ3r. Currently holds 46 BTC.

Quote from: Wei Dai
If you read the Wikipedia article, you should know that I didn't create Bitcoin but only described a similar idea more than a decade ago. And my understanding is that the creator of Bitcoin, who goes by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, didn't even read my article before reinventing the idea himself. He learned about it afterward and credited me in his paper. So my connection with the project is quite limited.

BTW, thanks to the discussion you started, I bought a Radeon 5870 and started mining myself, since it looks likely that I can at least break even on the cost of the card. (Of course I heard about Bitcoin earlier, but in my version of the idea, nobody can make large profits by mining/minting, so I didn't look into the possibility.) However I should warn you and others here that I have not analyzed the security of the protocol (since my time is perhaps better spent on other problems at the moment). My understanding is that not many other cryptographers have analyzed its security either, and in my experience these kinds of protocols often have flaws that are not found until that has happened.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/4cs/making_money_with_bitcoin/3lq1
Nice find. Looking into it further, Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin. He seems fixated on "counter-cyclical monetary policy" (or at least, he seems to accept the premise that such a thing exists or needs to exist), which I don't imagine the creator of a fixed-supply currency would do: http://elidourado.com/blog/economics-cryptocurrency/
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September 29, 2012, 08:50:26 PM
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Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin.

I think Wei Dai is best known for his CryptoPP open source library.

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September 29, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
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Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin.

I think Wei Dai is best known for his CryptoPP open source library.

Which, incidentally, was used in the original Bitcoin client. Though it has been replaced with OpenSSL, as far as I can gather.
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April 26, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
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Hello everyone,
i was just asking myself if both B-money by Wei and Bit-Gold by Szabo remained only a theorical project,
or if they concretely tried to put them into practice.

Thanks for the attention.
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April 26, 2015, 05:22:03 PM
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Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf
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April 26, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
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Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf


That would make him 85 years old and still employed....
I doubt it. Most people retire in their early 60s.

How about this?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo

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April 26, 2015, 06:34:36 PM
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Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)

And Nick Szabo is 85 years old

His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article.  And there is no verified photo of him.
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April 26, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
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Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)

And Nick Szabo is 85 years old

The age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article.  And there no verified photo of him.


OK.
Guessing he is retired now? - obviously  Wink

Any idea of his whereabouts/activities?

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May 16, 2015, 05:48:21 AM
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
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May 16, 2015, 06:10:13 AM
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

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May 16, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

I have found this image of "Nick Szabo":




Reference:
- https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744
- https://archive.is/QNvyS

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May 16, 2015, 03:28:14 PM
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

I have found this image of "Nick Szabo":




Reference:
- https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744
- https://archive.is/QNvyS

That is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..!

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