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Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer implementation of Wei Dai's b-money proposal and Nick Szabo's Bitgold proposal.
Please also expand the article in the wikipedia, if it is possible
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The grue lurks in the darkest places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale.
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May 17, 2011, 09:26:00 AM |
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
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May 17, 2011, 12:24:28 PM |
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
what i remember from early bitcoin reading, they had the idea posted on a kind of cryptography forum/mailing list try to find that mailing list's archive and you'll find more of their contributions to the field of study. and maybe they are alter ego's of satoshi nakawhatever
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May 17, 2011, 01:47:34 PM |
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here. Nick Szabo's home page is here. Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here.
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here. Nick Szabo's home page is here. Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here. Interesting... Looks like Wei Dai has put up a Bitcoin address on his home page: 1AkqxLJn8H6Cg5VAaYijzj7hQUSeM2LJ3r. Currently holds 46 BTC.
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September 26, 2012, 12:54:32 AM |
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If you read the Wikipedia article, you should know that I didn't create Bitcoin but only described a similar idea more than a decade ago. And my understanding is that the creator of Bitcoin, who goes by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, didn't even read my article before reinventing the idea himself. He learned about it afterward and credited me in his paper. So my connection with the project is quite limited. BTW, thanks to the discussion you started, I bought a Radeon 5870 and started mining myself, since it looks likely that I can at least break even on the cost of the card. (Of course I heard about Bitcoin earlier, but in my version of the idea, nobody can make large profits by mining/minting, so I didn't look into the possibility.) However I should warn you and others here that I have not analyzed the security of the protocol (since my time is perhaps better spent on other problems at the moment). My understanding is that not many other cryptographers have analyzed its security either, and in my experience these kinds of protocols often have flaws that are not found until that has happened. http://lesswrong.com/lw/4cs/making_money_with_bitcoin/3lq1
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September 27, 2012, 09:45:50 AM |
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here. Nick Szabo's home page is here. Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here. Nice Satoshi Rick Roll Dice
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If you read the Wikipedia article, you should know that I didn't create Bitcoin but only described a similar idea more than a decade ago. And my understanding is that the creator of Bitcoin, who goes by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, didn't even read my article before reinventing the idea himself. He learned about it afterward and credited me in his paper. So my connection with the project is quite limited. BTW, thanks to the discussion you started, I bought a Radeon 5870 and started mining myself, since it looks likely that I can at least break even on the cost of the card. (Of course I heard about Bitcoin earlier, but in my version of the idea, nobody can make large profits by mining/minting, so I didn't look into the possibility.) However I should warn you and others here that I have not analyzed the security of the protocol (since my time is perhaps better spent on other problems at the moment). My understanding is that not many other cryptographers have analyzed its security either, and in my experience these kinds of protocols often have flaws that are not found until that has happened. http://lesswrong.com/lw/4cs/making_money_with_bitcoin/3lq1Nice find. Looking into it further, Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin. He seems fixated on "counter-cyclical monetary policy" (or at least, he seems to accept the premise that such a thing exists or needs to exist), which I don't imagine the creator of a fixed-supply currency would do: http://elidourado.com/blog/economics-cryptocurrency/
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September 29, 2012, 08:50:26 PM |
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Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin. I think Wei Dai is best known for his CryptoPP open source library.
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September 29, 2012, 10:16:13 PM |
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Wei Dai doesn't seem to be the person who would develop a crypto-currency like Bitcoin. I think Wei Dai is best known for his CryptoPP open source library. Which, incidentally, was used in the original Bitcoin client. Though it has been replaced with OpenSSL, as far as I can gather.
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Hello everyone, i was just asking myself if both B-money by Wei and Bit-Gold by Szabo remained only a theorical project, or if they concretely tried to put them into practice.
Thanks for the attention.
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April 26, 2015, 06:34:36 PM Last edit: April 26, 2015, 11:27:18 PM by TippingPoint |
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Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)
And Nick Szabo is 85 years old
His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article. And there is no verified photo of him.
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April 26, 2015, 06:48:53 PM |
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Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)
And Nick Szabo is 85 years old
The age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article. And there no verified photo of him.
OK. Guessing he is retired now? - obviously Any idea of his whereabouts/activities?
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May 16, 2015, 05:48:21 AM |
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
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May 16, 2015, 06:10:13 AM |
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty. I have found this image of "Nick Szabo": Reference: - https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744- https://archive.is/QNvyS
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty. I have found this image of "Nick Szabo": Reference: - https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744- https://archive.is/QNvySThat is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..!
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May 16, 2015, 03:47:02 PM |
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Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.
Wei Dai's home page is here. Nick Szabo's home page is here. Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here. You almost tricked me with the last link. The thing is, satoshi actually had something that could be said to be his homepage: his profile on his p2pfoundation http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamotoThis is the last time satoshi was ever active (afaik?), and what he used to confirm he is not Dorian.
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty. I have found this image of "Nick Szabo": Reference: - https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744- https://archive.is/QNvySThat is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..! Mark karpeles? Yes he seems him, but the one in the image is not karpeles but someone else who is named "Nick Szabo" but I also think that it is only a pseudonym like "Satoshi Nakamoto".
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty. I have found this image of "Nick Szabo": Reference: - https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744- https://archive.is/QNvySThat is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..! Mark karpeles? Yes he seems him, but the one in the image is not karpeles but someone else who is named "Nick Szabo" but I also think that it is only a pseudonym like "Satoshi Nakamoto". If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.
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May 16, 2015, 04:02:13 PM |
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nick szabo is not 85...
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nick szabo is not 85...
This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age: Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.
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.... If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.
nick szabo is not 85...
Yes, who has said that he is 85 years old? Only due this post: Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)
And Nick Szabo is 85 years old
His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article. And there is no verified photo of him.
With any reference link?
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.... If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.
nick szabo is not 85...
Yes, who has said that he is 85 years old? Only due this post: Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)
And Nick Szabo is 85 years old
His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article. And there is no verified photo of him.
With any reference link? Have you clicked the link below the post? There is a pdf file there wherein you could read the claims posted here by TippingPost.
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There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about. http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=TThe Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit.
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There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about. http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=T" The Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit." So, it's possible that this guy (Nick Szabo) is Satoshi Nakamoto? So, he is a very old man
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There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about. http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=T" The Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit." So, it's possible that this guy (Nick Szabo) is Satoshi Nakamoto? So, he is a very old man You are not showing Satoshi the proper respect, according to businessinsider you should be referring to him as "the creator". If that picture someone posted really is Nick Szabo it makes me wonder if he really is a very old man. The clothes the people are wearing look like stuff from the seventies or early eighties, and the picture's so blurred it's difficult to pin an age on him. If it was taken in the eighties and he was 45, then he might be 85, but it's so fuzzy it might have been taken when he was thirty.
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Szabo is in his 50s... Vitalik Buterin has met him in person... More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much. nick szabo is not 85...
This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age: Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.
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Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.
That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male). His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty. I have found this image of "Nick Szabo": Reference: - https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744- https://archive.is/QNvySYep, that's the one I recall, FWIW. He's still a mystery though, and no real proof the photo ID of him is even accurate.
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Szabo is in his 50s... Vitalik Buterin has met him in person... More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much. nick szabo is not 85...
This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age: Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet. OK guys, I took a few moments looking at that faireconomy PDF. Definitely NOT the Nick Szabo/Satoshi Nakamoto we are looking for!! That PDF is by a leftist, statist organization preaching socialism/communism, which is about as far as you can get from libertarian, free-market principles of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency developers in general. So the 85-year old socialist is definitely not the Nick Szabo of interest.
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Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth. -The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now. -That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.) In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.
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Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth. -The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now. -That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.) In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi. If the pic is supposed to be from 1997 then why has the guy on the left got a buttoned down collar on his shirt? I don't remember those being fashionable then, they were popular in the early to mid eighties. Also, the guy on the right has a fairly wide tie which reminds me of ties from the late seventies. Maybe both guys had bought their clothes over ten years earlier, but it's unlikely. Finally, mustaches were right out of fashion in 1997.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html?_r=0This article talks a little about Szabo, more and more things like this will appear over time - but, I doubt we will ever get a real picture of whoever Szabo really is. Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth. -The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now. -That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.) In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.
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Best archive what you pen in this thread, for I've already had a post removed from my thread on the same subject sans being notified via a PM.
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Really wish you guys would shut the fuck up about the 85 year old Nick Szabo, who is clearly a different person. 'Szabo' returns 12 million Google results. It's not an uncommon name. The Nick Szabo in question is the one from the New York Times article, who is in his 50's. Enough is known about that Nick Szabo to know who we are talking about: Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006, has written extensively online for two decades etc. This guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabohttp://szabo.best.vwh.nethttp://unenumerated.blogspot.comhttps://twitter.com/nickszabo4
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Szabo is in his 50s... Vitalik Buterin has met him in person... More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much. nick szabo is not 85...
This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age: Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet. OK guys, I took a few moments looking at that faireconomy PDF. Definitely NOT the Nick Szabo/Satoshi Nakamoto we are looking for!! That PDF is by a leftist, statist organization preaching socialism/communism, which is about as far as you can get from libertarian, free-market principles of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency developers in general. So the 85-year old socialist is definitely not the Nick Szabo of interest. I see that point. Even read the PDF and scoured only to find out that it is not the Nick Szabo which is 85 years of age that we're looking for here. AGain, going back to the picture, the fashion of the beard and the ties dates back to the '90s if I'm not mistaken. So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.
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So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.
And I assume that water is wet. We know how old he is! Sorry to be a dick but people are playing detective on stuff that is already known. Lets look for some unknown stuff. Like who has this guy been working for the past three decades since college? That'd be interesting to learn.
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So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.
And I assume that water is wet. We know how old he is! Sorry to be a dick but people are playing detective on stuff that is already known. Lets look for some unknown stuff. Like who has this guy been working for the past three decades since college? That'd be interesting to learn. Well sometimes, one must review all the facts before he starts delving into the unknown. Also, in the first place we aren't supposed to be playing detectives linking different people to Satoshi. He wants to be anonymous, why don't we leave it that way? This entire paradox about Satoshi's true identity is just reoccurring over and over again, only with different words and whatnot. If we find Satoshi Nakamoto in the flesh, what's next? Worship him as a god or something?
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Ok so don't participate in the witch hunt. That's valid. But if you are going to participate it's silly to keep debating exactly who Nick Szabo is and how old he is. That is known.
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Ok so don't participate in the witch hunt. That's valid. But if you are going to participate it's silly to keep debating exactly who Nick Szabo is and how old he is. That is known.
Conclusively prove who he is and how old he is then, and back up any claims with multiple sources of rock solid evidence. When I checked it out I found multiple contradictory pieces of information which cannot all be correct.
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Really wish you guys would shut the fuck up about the 85 year old Nick Szabo, who is clearly a different person. 'Szabo' returns 12 million Google results. It's not an uncommon name.
The Nick Szabo in question is the one from the New York Times article, who is in his 50's. Enough is known about that Nick Szabo to know who we are talking about: Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006, has written extensively online for two decades etc.
What are the sources for Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006,. I always though his name was another pseudonym especially since you can't find much info about him online even with a name like that. So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.
Assuming that is him he looks late 40s early 50s to me.
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So now that we know about Nick Szabo, what about Wei Dai? Has anyone seen a picture of him? Where does he work? Is he a different person than the usual suspects?
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their employer is Satoshi Nakamoto, obviously
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These 4 people could identify Nick Szabo. Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Russell Whitaker http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/02/msg01429.htmlParty with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite! To: Extropians@extropy.org, Exi-Bay@gnu.ai.mit.edu, cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Party with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite! From: plaz@netcom.com (Geoff Dale) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:40:48 -0800 Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com MEET THE NEXTROPIANS: WE ARE HERE AND NOW AMONG YOU __________________________________________________________________________ Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker We can't call ourselves Nexus-Lite any more. When Dave Gordon moves in, we'll have tied the most populous nexus* of all recorded history. The residents of Nexus-Lite (but getting heavier by the minute), an Extropian intentional community, invite you to a Nexus Naming Potluck Party. Prizes for the best name for our Nexus will be awarded. We are also celebrating Housemistress Romana's appearance in WIRED and bOING bOING, describing her excellent shareware program, Stego! Thanks for your excellent articles, Sandy! Dress for the future, bring a friend. Flip a coin; heads bring food, tails bring drink. When: Saturday, March 12, 1994, 7.p.m (after the Cypherpunks meeting, until an indeterminate time on the following day) Where: 21090 Grenola Drive, Cupertino CA (See Obligatory Crude Ascii Map Attached Below) Tel: (408) 253-1692 *nexus (neks-us) n. A place where extropians** live in comfort for mutual profit, and work on extra credit assignments without fear of reprisal. **extropian (eks-tro-pee-an) 1) n. A boundlessly optimistic futurist who will live forever or die trying. 2) n. Exactly like a human, only much, much better. 3) n. A champion in the war against entropy. 4) adj. Any way cool thing an extropian would like. nextropian (neks-tro-pee-an) 1) n. An extropian who lives in a nexus. 2) Welcome to the Next Level. DIRECTIONS: Nexus-Lite is located at 21090 Grenola Drive in Cupertino. Geoff Dale's phone number (in case you get lost) is 408-253-1692. From 280: Take the Saratoga/Sunnyvale (Or DeAnza Blvd, its all the same thing) Exit (which is actually the 85 South detour). Turn north on DeAnza (aka Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road) at the exit (a left turn if you are coming from San Francisco; right if you are coming from San Jose). Turn left at Homestead; go three blocks to N. Stelling, take left (at the McDonalds). (Note: North Stelling is called Hollenbeck on the other side of Homestead. Don't be fooled!) From 101: Take 85 south and exit at Homestead; turn left onto Homestead. Proceed several blocks (you will pass a high school); then turn right on N. Stelling. Once on N. Stelling: Right at first light: Greenleaf First left, Flora Vista First Right on to Grenola Dr 21090 (mnemonic: anagram for Beverly Hills zip code) is a tannish house on left with a high roof that slopes toward the street. Park on the street -- in the direction of traffic, or you may get a $15 ticket. This has happened. OBLIGATORY CRUDE ASCII MAP (not to scale; up is not north): /\ || ^ ^ || (85) | | || | | || |Hollenbeck | /|| | | <----++---/ /-- (Homestead) ---+------------------+------------------> || | | || |N.Stelling | || | | || | DeAnza|Saratoga/Sunnyvale || | | <=========/ /== (280) =======] | [================+==================> || | || | || ^ | || | | Greenleaf \/ <----------+-------+-----------------> | | Flora Vista| | | | | | Grenola | | <-------------+ | *=21090 | | | | V V Excelsior! Forward, onward, upward, outward, and every which way but loose! Once more into the future dear friends!
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Nicholas Sigismund Szabo (the elder) of Cupertino, CA died in October 2015 in Madison, WI - California Institute of Technology, bachelor's degree in physics
- Master's degree, Stanford University
- Ph.D. in Computer Science, UC Berkeley, with a minor in Law
- Engineer with several of Silicon Valley's leading companies, including Hewlett-Packard, Lockheed and KLA-Tencor
- Director of Research and Development for Singer-Link, the world's leading developer of aircraft simulators
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That would make him 85 years old and still employed.... I doubt it. Most people retire in their early 60s. Count Szabo is a man who never dies, and who knows everything.
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