Nick Szabo, Wei Dai... Who are their employers?

[thejaytiesto]

Who are these two people? Cannot find anything about them online.

Wei Dai's home page is here.

Nick Szabo's home page is here.

Satoshi Nakamoto's home page is here.

You almost tricked me with the last link. The thing is, satoshi actually had something that could be said to be his homepage: his profile on his p2pfoundation

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

This is the last time satoshi was ever active (afaik?), and what he used to confirm he is not Dorian.

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[redsn0w]

Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.

That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

I have found this image of "Nick Szabo":




Reference:
- https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744
- https://archive.is/QNvyS

That is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..!

Mark karpeles? Yes he seems him, but the one in the image is not karpeles but someone else who is named "Nick Szabo" but I also think that it is only a pseudonym like "Satoshi Nakamoto".

[dothebeats]

Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.

That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

I have found this image of "Nick Szabo":




Reference:
- https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744
- https://archive.is/QNvyS

That is Mark Kareles right? Or is my mind playing tricks on me today? I am not sure anymore..!

Mark karpeles? Yes he seems him, but the one in the image is not karpeles but someone else who is named "Nick Szabo" but I also think that it is only a pseudonym like "Satoshi Nakamoto".

If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.

[rtrtcrypto]

nick szabo is not 85...

[dothebeats]

nick szabo is not 85...

This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age:

Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.

[redsn0w]

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If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.

nick szabo is not 85...

Yes, who has said that he is 85 years old?  Only due this post:

Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)

And Nick Szabo is 85 years old

His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article.  And there is no verified photo of him.

With any reference link?

[dothebeats]

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If Nick Szabo is 85 years of age at the time of this writing, then probably it wouldn't be him in that photo. Even if that photo is taken years or even a decade ago, still it wouldn't make any sense that it is in fact Nick Szabo. The man on the picture looks like around 30-40 years of age.

nick szabo is not 85...

Yes, who has said that he is 85 years old?  Only due this post:

Was employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA (KLA was named after its founders, Ken Levy and Bob Anderson)

And Nick Szabo is 85 years old

His age and former employers are not included in the Wikipedia article.  And there is no verified photo of him.

With any reference link?

Have you clicked the link below the post? There is a pdf file there wherein you could read the claims posted here by TippingPost.

[HI-TEC99]

There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=T

The Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit.

[Jeremycoin]

There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=T

"The Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit."

So, it's possible that this guy (Nick Szabo) is Satoshi Nakamoto? 
So, he is a very old man

[HI-TEC99]

There was a businessinsider article that discussed the possiblty of Nick Szabo being Satoshi last year. It concludes that we often refer to him simply as "the creator". I have never heard that term used here before, so I'm not convinced the author knows what he's talking about.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4?IR=T

"The Bitcoin community remains almost violently opposed to any outside effort to out Satoshi. He is often referred to simply as "the creator." Leah McGrath Goodman, who reported the Newsweek story, received threats on reddit."

So, it's possible that this guy (Nick Szabo) is Satoshi Nakamoto?  
So, he is a very old man

You are not showing Satoshi the proper respect, according to businessinsider you should be referring to him as "the creator".  

If that picture someone posted really is Nick Szabo it makes me wonder if he really is a very old man. The clothes the people are wearing look like stuff from the seventies or early eighties, and the picture's so blurred it's difficult to pin an age on him. If it was taken in the eighties and he was 45, then he might be 85, but it's so fuzzy it might have been taken when he was thirty.

[rtrtcrypto]

Szabo is in his 50s...

Vitalik Buterin has met him in person...

More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much.

nick szabo is not 85...

This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age:

Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.

[ebliever]

Nick Szabo is Satoshi. For real.

That's my opinion as well. But I doubt he is 85 years old. And I doubt Nick Szabo is his real name any more than Satoshi Nakamoto. Interesting the lack of any photos (I think I once saw a photo claimed to be of him, showing a mid-aged Caucasian male).

His website mentions giving at least one public address about ten years ago. It would be interesting if anyone can claim to have met him from his speaking events and could shed any light. My recollection is that his name does not match up with any Washington univ. faculty.

I have found this image of "Nick Szabo":




Reference:
- https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744
- https://archive.is/QNvyS

Yep, that's the one I recall, FWIW. He's still a mystery though, and no real proof the photo ID of him is even accurate.

[ebliever]

Szabo is in his 50s...

Vitalik Buterin has met him in person...

More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much.

nick szabo is not 85...

This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age:

Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.

OK guys, I took a few moments looking at that faireconomy PDF. Definitely NOT the Nick Szabo/Satoshi Nakamoto we are looking for!! That PDF is by a leftist, statist organization preaching socialism/communism, which is about as far as you can get from libertarian, free-market principles of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency developers in general. So the 85-year old socialist is definitely not the Nick Szabo of interest.

[ebliever]

Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744

-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth.
-The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now.
-That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.)

In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.

[HI-TEC99]

Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744

-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth.
-The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now.
-That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.)

In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.

If the pic is supposed to be from 1997 then why has the guy on the left got a buttoned down collar on his shirt? I don't remember those being fashionable then, they were popular in the early to mid eighties. Also, the guy on the right has a fairly wide tie which reminds me of ties from the late seventies. Maybe both guys had bought their clothes over ten years earlier, but it's unlikely. Finally, mustaches were right out of fashion in 1997.

[rtrtcrypto]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html?_r=0

This article talks a little about Szabo, more and more things like this will appear over time - but, I doubt we will ever get a real picture of whoever Szabo really is.

Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744

-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth.
-The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now.
-That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.)

In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.

[Gleb Gamow]

Best archive what you pen in this thread, for I've already had a post removed from my thread on the same subject sans being notified via a PM.

[wilfra]

Really wish you guys would shut the fuck up about the 85 year old Nick Szabo, who is clearly a different person. 'Szabo' returns 12 million Google results. It's not an uncommon name.

The Nick Szabo in question is the one from the New York Times article, who is in his 50's. Enough is known about that Nick Szabo to know who we are talking about: Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006, has written extensively online for two decades etc.

This guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo
http://szabo.best.vwh.net
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com
https://twitter.com/nickszabo4

[dothebeats]

Szabo is in his 50s...

Vitalik Buterin has met him in person...

More info will come out on Szabo now - he is barely a "real" person himself, slightly more transparent than Satoshi, but, not by that much.

nick szabo is not 85...

This is where I saw the claims that Nick Szabo is already 85 years of age:

Who are their employers?

Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA,
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Also, how can you say that Nick Szabo is not 85 when there are so many uncertainties regarding his identity? There are even no known picture of him in the internet.

OK guys, I took a few moments looking at that faireconomy PDF. Definitely NOT the Nick Szabo/Satoshi Nakamoto we are looking for!! That PDF is by a leftist, statist organization preaching socialism/communism, which is about as far as you can get from libertarian, free-market principles of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency developers in general. So the 85-year old socialist is definitely not the Nick Szabo of interest.

I see that point. Even read the PDF and scoured only to find out that it is not the Nick Szabo which is 85 years of age that we're looking for here. AGain, going back to the picture, the fashion of the beard and the ties dates back to the '90s if I'm not mistaken. So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.

[wilfra]

So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.

And I assume that water is wet.

We know how old he is!

Sorry to be a dick but people are playing detective on stuff that is already known. Lets look for some unknown stuff. Like who has this guy been working for the past three decades since college? That'd be interesting to learn.