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November 29, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
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Where is the chat ?
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Where is the chat ?

it is still there for me. what happened with your chat, maybe include a screenshot?

so far refresh has usually worked for me with any GUI issue.

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November 29, 2014, 10:47:16 AM
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I'll try this site out, I might like it.

Thanks for sharing, OP!

Nice house edge, will try it for sure  Grin

Always made us smile to read comments like this  Grin Thank you guysss!!!

Where is the chat ?

it is still there for me. what happened with your chat, maybe include a screenshot?

so far refresh has usually worked for me with any GUI issue.

Did you opened the site from tablet / smaller screen? The chat button is hidden if you opened it on tablet.

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November 29, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
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Where is the chat ?

Maximize your window and you will see it  Cheesy

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November 29, 2014, 11:12:44 AM
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opening from pc and i can not find it anywhere :/
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November 29, 2014, 11:13:40 AM
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Where is the chat ?

Maximize your window and you will see it  Cheesy

found it
thanx alot xD
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damn. had some bad luck  Cheesy


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I'm still seeing weird lag on balance updates.

I place a bet, see the result, then my balance updates sometimes twice *after* I see the bet result.

I wound expect the message that sends the bet result to also update my balance, and get it right. I don't really understand why it jumps around as much as it does - it's kind of confusing at times.

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November 30, 2014, 12:23:59 AM
 #149

I'm still seeing weird lag on balance updates.

I place a bet, see the result, then my balance updates sometimes twice *after* I see the bet result.

I wound expect the message that sends the bet result to also update my balance, and get it right. I don't really understand why it jumps around as much as it does - it's kind of confusing at times.

Ah, found what caused this.. Angry
It has been fixed now, thank you so much for reporting this again doog!

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November 30, 2014, 12:26:58 AM
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damn. had some bad luck  Cheesy



Ouch, 16 unlucky streak... Probably the longest in our record so far Tongue

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November 30, 2014, 04:29:00 AM
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I'm still seeing weird lag on balance updates.

I place a bet, see the result, then my balance updates sometimes twice *after* I see the bet result.

I wound expect the message that sends the bet result to also update my balance, and get it right. I don't really understand why it jumps around as much as it does - it's kind of confusing at times.

Ah, found what caused this.. Angry
It has been fixed now, thank you so much for reporting this again doog!

It seems better now, but the problem still occurs for the site profit.

I win a bet, and I see the site profit drop accordingly, then go back up, and a second later drop back to the correct value again. ie. it is changing three times sometimes when I bet once. Nobody else is playing.

The long streak thing is kind of a continuum. The lower the chance people play at, the longer streaks they see. The screenshot shows a roll of 52, but he's playing >54 so it's a loss, where it would have been a win at 2x.

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November 30, 2014, 06:07:57 AM
 #152

I'm still seeing weird lag on balance updates.

I place a bet, see the result, then my balance updates sometimes twice *after* I see the bet result.

I wound expect the message that sends the bet result to also update my balance, and get it right. I don't really understand why it jumps around as much as it does - it's kind of confusing at times.

Ah, found what caused this.. Angry
It has been fixed now, thank you so much for reporting this again doog!

It seems better now, but the problem still occurs for the site profit.

I win a bet, and I see the site profit drop accordingly, then go back up, and a second later drop back to the correct value again. ie. it is changing three times sometimes when I bet once. Nobody else is playing.

The long streak thing is kind of a continuum. The lower the chance people play at, the longer streaks they see. The screenshot shows a roll of 52, but he's playing >54 so it's a loss, where it would have been a win at 2x.

Just modifying the site profit updating system. Previously we count a player's profit in addition to server's periodic update to "guess" the site's profit. But sometime, the bet result from API takes longer compared to socket update. Now we remove those guessing system and only use the socket update.

tldr: Fixed! Cheesy

Auto rolling feature is also available now, check it out guys! Smiley

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November 30, 2014, 06:46:01 AM
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Auto rolling feature is also available now, check it out guys! Smiley

Interesting simple design - just two boxes. Seems to work pretty well.

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November 30, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
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How does the variable HE work? It's not explained in the FAQ.

Is it random, or does it increase proportionally to the potential profit? Do I get 0.5% HE on bet with minimum profit (1 satoshi) and 1% on max profit, or is there a fixed bet/profit amount after which I get the 1% HE?

Anyhow, the "0.5% House Edge" in the title and "0.5% Variable House Edge" may appear intentionally misleading, it would be fair if you change it to "0.5% - 1% HE".

I like the simple, minimalistic design tho.


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Last edit: November 30, 2014, 11:21:01 AM by SafeDice
 #155

How does the variable HE work? It's not explained in the FAQ.

Is it random, or does it increase proportionally to the potential profit? Do I get 0.5% HE on bet with minimum profit (1 satoshi) and 1% on max profit, or is there a fixed bet/profit amount after which I get the 1% HE?

Anyhow, the "0.5% House Edge" in the title and "0.5% Variable House Edge" may appear intentionally misleading, it would be fair if you change it to "0.5% - 1% HE".

I like the simple, minimalistic design tho.



Hello pawel, on the bottom of the betting box, you can see the Variable H. E. information with (?) button in it. Basically you are right, Variable H.E. means that the House Edge can varies on each roll, it does increase proportionally to the potential profit. But it doesn't stretch from minimum to maximum profit. It depends on the potential profit compared to the bankroll size:
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.25% of Bankroll, then you'll use 0.5% H.E.
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.5% of Bankroll, then you'll use 1% H.E.
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- and so on (it is 2 x potential profit / bankroll)

We see that people might not noticing those button and also need more example, we'll include more detail on the FAQ or even creating a special page on it. Thank you for the feedback.

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hi there.. is there any chance that you will add affiliate program to your site? so we can promote yours in our site?

thanks!

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Hello pawel, on the bottom of the betting box, you can see the Variable H. E. information with (?) button in it. Basically you are right, Variable H.E. means that the House Edge can varies on each roll, it does increase proportionally to the potential profit. But it doesn't stretch from minimum to maximum profit. It depends on the potential profit compared to the bankroll size:
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.25% of Bankroll, then you'll use 0.5% H.E.
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.5% of Bankroll, then you'll use 1% H.E.
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- If your profit on win is 1% of Bankroll, then you'll use 2% H.E.
- and so on (it is 2 x potential profit / bankroll)

We see that people might not noticing those button and also need more example, we'll include more detail on the FAQ or even creating a special page on it. Thank you for the feedback.

Thanks for clarifying. Didn't notice the "(?)" button, putting more info in FAQ is a good idea, as most people will go there to look for the answers.

That seems like a good system at first, but aren't you concerned that it might discourage players from placing big bets, since they're rewarded with lower HE when betting small?

How is it better than a flat rate of HE, say 0.75%?

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Thanks for clarifying. Didn't notice the "(?)" button, putting more info in FAQ is a good idea, as most people will go there to look for the answers.

That seems like a good system at first, but aren't you concerned that it might discourage players from placing big bets, since they're rewarded with lower HE when betting small?

How is it better than a flat rate of HE, say 0.75%?

the way it is implemented, higher bets can be accomodated with a small edge as soon as the bankroll increases. so imo there's no real need for a fixed low HE.

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hi there.. is there any chance that you will add affiliate program to your site? so we can promote yours in our site?

thanks!

Sure Clint, that is on our list, will contact you once we are done with it Wink
Btw you have a nice site, good luck!


Hello pawel, on the bottom of the betting box, you can see the Variable H. E. information with (?) button in it. Basically you are right, Variable H.E. means that the House Edge can varies on each roll, it does increase proportionally to the potential profit. But it doesn't stretch from minimum to maximum profit. It depends on the potential profit compared to the bankroll size:
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.25% of Bankroll, then you'll use 0.5% H.E.
- If your profit on win is equal or below 0.5% of Bankroll, then you'll use 1% H.E.
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- If your profit on win is 1% of Bankroll, then you'll use 2% H.E.
- and so on (it is 2 x potential profit / bankroll)

We see that people might not noticing those button and also need more example, we'll include more detail on the FAQ or even creating a special page on it. Thank you for the feedback.

Thanks for clarifying. Didn't notice the "(?)" button, putting more info in FAQ is a good idea, as most people will go there to look for the answers.

That seems like a good system at first, but aren't you concerned that it might discourage players from placing big bets, since they're rewarded with lower HE when betting small?

How is it better than a flat rate of HE, say 0.75%?

Good question! And of course it is better, lets take an example:

Flat rate H.E.
You play with 0.75% H.E. and max win of 0.375% of Bankroll (1/2 kelly), for every bet with potential profit less than 0.375% BR, you use flat 0.75% H.E.  Higher than that, you are not allowed to bet.

Variable H.E.
When you play with potential profit 0.375% of the bankroll, you still use 0.75% H.E. Lower than that the site will use lower H.E. instead of flat 0.75%. Higher than that, the site still allows you to bet with higher H.E. (remember that in flat rate, you are not allowed to do so).

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Good question! And of course it is better, lets take an example:

Flat rate H.E.
You play with 0.75% H.E. and max win of 0.375% of Bankroll (1/2 kelly), for every bet with potential profit less than 0.375% BR, you use flat 0.75% H.E.  Higher than that, you are not allowed to bet.

Variable H.E.
When you play with potential profit 0.375% of the bankroll, you still use 0.75% H.E. Lower than that the site will use lower H.E. instead of flat 0.75%. Higher than that, the site still allows you to bet with higher H.E. (remember that in flat rate, you are not allowed to do so).

That makes sense. But I'm guessing there is some sort of max profit cap? If your BR is BTC23 am I allowed to place a bet with a potential profit of BTC23 (with HE at ~40.5%)? If so, that's very risky for you.

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