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November 25, 2014, 02:58:04 PM
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"People who try to commit suicide — don't attempt to save them! . . . China is such a populous nation, it is not as if we cannot do without a few people."

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November 25, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
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1-800-273-8255

This is the number for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Calling this number should connect you with a local crisis center where social service professionals field crisis calls.

Please consider this number or reaching out to other clinical support systems in the area.
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November 25, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
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I hope you aren't serious. These threads always make me uncomfortable Cry

I wish I had some crypto advice that could help...I think the gambling aspect might have gotten you? Try to slowly get out on small bull traps would be my n00b warning

Why should these threads make you uncomfortable? Whoever is trying to get out of this game called 'Life' the easy way, by killing himself go ahead. It is very illogical to care about such people.

Even if this was a serious thread (which I highly doubt), sorry OP but you're a fool. We have said, countless times, do not invest what you can't afford. Also almost every single person who bought bitcoin thinks that he or she is a trader. Most people lose their money due to such thinking.

Do you not feel empathy?

Suicide is a byproduct of a society juices all they energy they can from people until they pop under stress.  It doesn't matter that he invested money frivolously.  What matters is that he is a human being deprived of love and we should not be ridiculing him in his time of depression.  I bet you most people in this western society have at least thought of killing themselves at one time.

Kids kill themselves over bad grades.  It's not the kids fault that they're raised in a society that doesn't value them as a person but what they can do for the system.

Show a little love, else you are just as responsible as any other factor that amounted to this.

OP, one recommendation, alcohol won't help anything.  It never has.  Perhaps learn about life from a more spiritual perspective.  When you realize negativity is a result of how you think, you can begin to change the way you think to a more positive spectrum.  Every negative has an opposing positive.

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November 25, 2014, 03:15:44 PM
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And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.

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November 25, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
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And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.

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November 25, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
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What, shit is censored?

Edit: No, no it's not. Don't be a pussy. Cuss properly or not at all.

what the fuck are you on about?  Holy shit can I not comment without someone fucking stalking my presence Shocked
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November 25, 2014, 05:50:18 PM
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If you are becomming suicidal over this BTC is not for you. Sell them when you make a profit or even out, I mean it doesn't take much to figure out that your math is very off.

Turn off the news and read. Watch Psywar, learn something important about our society and PR, why and how it got started and how it brainwashes you.
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November 25, 2014, 06:52:16 PM
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What, shit is censored?

Edit: No, no it's not. Don't be a pussy. Cuss properly or not at all.

what the fuck are you on about?  Holy shit can I not comment without someone fucking stalking my presence Shocked

i saw that and no you cant  Grin we are watching you ever minute of every hour

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November 25, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
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suicide its not a solution
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November 25, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
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And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




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You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.
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November 25, 2014, 08:30:56 PM
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And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




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You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.


My name "the joint" isn't a drug reference.  It's more like, "Hey, welcome to da joint!" (Insert Joe Pesci face here).

I'm not a psychiatrist.  But I have a post-graduate degree in the fields of mental health and social work and I was recently (and may still be) ranked #1 in the United States for both productivity and positive client outcomes in my role as a transition coordinator for a Federal financial assistance program the helps nursing home residents with a history of serious mental illness with community reintegration.  I've also worked as a mental health counselor for three agencies which includes the adult psychiatric units of two Chicago Metropolitan hospitals. I've worked with literally thousands of clients being treated with psychiatric medications for all sorts of mental issues including depression and other mood disorders, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia and delusional disorders, substance abuse of all types, personality disorders, chronic homelessness or incarceration, etc.

http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm

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There are several types of psychotherapy that have been shown to be effective for depression, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and interpersonal therapy (IPT). In general, these two types of therapies are short-term; treatments usually last only 10-20 weeks. Research has shown that mild to moderate depression can often be treated successfully with either medication or psychotherapy alone. However, severe depression appears more likely to respond to a combination of these two treatments.

Edit:  Interestingly, of all the clients that I've successfully transitioned from nursing homes to apartments or other individual living spaces, only one client needed to be re-institutionalized back into a nursing home.  The reason?  He stopped taking his psychiatric medications just a couple days after discharging from the nursing home (because he said he felt "fine" and didn't need them anymore) and was re-institutionalized within a few weeks.  Interestingly, once he started back on his medications after going back to the nursing home, it only took a few more weeks for the client to re-stabilize back to baseline.  He is now living in a group home with staff on site to monitor his medication usage. He has been doing perfectly fine ever since, and it's primarily because he is now remaining compliant with his medications.

Edit 2:  It's also interesting to note that, although this is the only client I've worked with who has needed to be re-institutionalized after moving back into the community, this client was clinically determined to be the highest functioning client I've had on my caseload according to a mental health level of functioning assessment.  However, the client scored so high when he was in the nursing home and on his medications.  This serves as an indicator as to how much importance medications play in the treatment process.  Our highest functioning client arguably became our lowest functioning client specifically because he went off of his medications, and for no other significant reason.
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November 25, 2014, 08:37:27 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

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November 25, 2014, 08:45:05 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
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November 25, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
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xanax  Grin Grin
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November 25, 2014, 08:48:44 PM
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Why should these threads make you uncomfortable? Whoever is trying to get out of this game called 'Life' the easy way, by killing himself go ahead. It is very illogical to care about such people.

Imagine yourself in the same situation. Everybody deserves help.
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November 25, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

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November 25, 2014, 08:59:37 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?
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November 25, 2014, 09:10:21 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

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November 25, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

Are you trolling? Because you don't seem to be doing it very well.
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November 25, 2014, 09:20:35 PM
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If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible Smiley

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

Are you trolling? Because you don't seem to be doing it very well.

No sir, im not trolling, i am sharing my perspective. If at any time was offensive, I offer you an apology.

Hope the OP recover the money... No more comments. I dont want to offend any one.

Have a great day.

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