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June 15, 2012, 02:15:54 AM
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Do you even know what LD50 means?  This is the basis for understanding the lethal nature of drugs and why they are ALL dangerous.


Well, I do. I don't think you do though. LD50 measures the median lethal dose of any substance. It doesn't have to be a drug. Even water has an LD50.

As for the rest of your post, the LD50 of a given drug is only a small part of the danger of mind altering substances. A larger concern is how such substances create permanent or at least long lasting changes to the brain.

That said, I support at least the decriminalisation of illicit drugs and education about their effects. Sending a person to prison for being an addict increases costs to society and provides a temporary benefit only if the addict committed crimes to pay for their addiction.

In the long run prohibition causes no decrease in drug use, a fantastic opportunity for organised crime to profit, and large costs to the state.

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June 15, 2012, 02:25:06 AM
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Do you even know what LD50 means?  This is the basis for understanding the lethal nature of drugs and why they are ALL dangerous.


Well, I do. I don't think you do though. LD50 measures the median lethal dose of any substance. It doesn't have to be a drug. Even water has an LD50.

As for the rest of your post, the LD50 of a given drug is only a small part of the danger of mind altering substances. A larger concern is how such substances create permanent or at least long lasting changes to the brain.

That said, I support at least the decriminalisation of illicit drugs and education about their effects. Sending a person to prison for being an addict increases costs to society and provides a temporary benefit only if the addict committed crimes to pay for their addiction.

In the long run prohibition causes no decrease in drug use, a fantastic opportunity for organised crime to profit, and large costs to the state.

LD50 gives an average dose of 50% of test subjects... I think this is right... Smiley


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June 15, 2012, 04:36:29 AM
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I think I'm slowly becoming addicted to migraine pills, does that count? When I get a migraine I take them then take a nap, and I wake up feeling like a million bucks.
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June 15, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
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I think I'm slowly becoming addicted to migraine pills, does that count? When I get a migraine I take them then take a nap, and I wake up feeling like a million bucks.
Addict!  You should definitely go to rehab Tongue

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June 15, 2012, 05:10:36 AM
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A more interesting question might have been at what point Silk Road and the Bitcoin economy start becoming big enough to be attractive to major cartels like Los Zetas.  In terms of the illicit drug trade overall, Silk Road is a small operation but it certainly has qualities which could eventually see it - or a similar service - operate on a whole different scale than the mid-level dealers and low-level buyers it seems to attract now. 

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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June 15, 2012, 06:16:51 AM
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Also a really good movie that makes you think is called "Enter the void" its generally slow as far as "main stream action goes but the story and camera work is so intense.
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June 15, 2012, 07:36:07 AM
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LD50 gives an average dose of 50% of test subjects... I think this is right... Smiley

I have no idea if you are trying to be funny or serious.

Lethal Dose 50 - The dose of a thing at which 50% of test subjects die.

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Well, I do. I don't think you do though. LD50 measures the median lethal dose of any substance. It doesn't have to be a drug. Even water has an LD50.

As for the rest of your post, the LD50 of a given drug is only a small part of the danger of mind altering substances. A larger concern is how such substances create permanent or at least long lasting changes to the brain.

That said, I support at least the decriminalisation of illicit drugs and education about their effects. Sending a person to prison for being an addict increases costs to society and provides a temporary benefit only if the addict committed crimes to pay for their addiction.

In the long run prohibition causes no decrease in drug use, a fantastic opportunity for organised crime to profit, and large costs to the state.

Thanks for your reply.  Yes, lethal dose is only the very first concern one should have.  There are certainly others. 

Double yes for decriminalization and education.  Absolutely astounding what passes for "drug education"..    Good luck --   
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June 15, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
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Everything has a lethal dosis - even chocolate. We should never buy chocolate with bitcoins!

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June 15, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
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Everything has a lethal dosis - even chocolate.
Except love. And also the colour green.

We should never buy chocolate with bitcoins!
I'm looking forward to buying love with bitcoin.

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I'm dying for love  Tongue

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June 15, 2012, 04:23:26 PM
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Well... I do support SILK ROAD and other sites alike. I would not buy drugs there, but there is a lot of other interesting stuff which is hard to get at other places..
 And then again, I don't understand this witch hunt of drug users, when alcohol and tobacco are the biggest killers... hundreds of millions(if not billions) of people smoke marijuana or other cannabis products every day without getting ill, hurting other people, die or getting addicted of it..

Problem with this post- "hundreds of millions(if not billions) of people smoke marijuana or other cannabis products every day without getting ill"

This isn't true lol if billions of people smoked it then that would be more than like 20% of the world population or more Roll Eyes
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Well... I do support SILK ROAD and other sites alike. I would not buy drugs there, but there is a lot of other interesting stuff which is hard to get at other places..
 And then again, I don't understand this witch hunt of drug users, when alcohol and tobacco are the biggest killers... hundreds of millions(if not billions) of people smoke marijuana or other cannabis products every day without getting ill, hurting other people, die or getting addicted of it..

Problem with this post- "hundreds of millions(if not billions) of people smoke marijuana or other cannabis products every day without getting ill"

This isn't true lol if billions of people smoked it then that would be more than like 20% of the world population or more Roll Eyes
Yeah. Definite exageration.

I think it would be accurate if he said, "hundreds of millions(if not billions) of people have smoked marijuana or other cannabis products every day without getting ill"

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June 15, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
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Well I would guess 20% of the population smokes Marijuana on a daily basis around here...




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The Silk Road has done a lot for bringing attention to bitcoin and making new bitcoiner's.  I'd never even heard about bitcoin until I read that infamous article last year about The Silk Road where it mentioned bitcoin.  As for drug use yes caffeine, alcohol, tobacco and went to Amsterdam when they still used Guilders  Tongue  Also The Silk Road may be a better way of selling drugs then dealers with guns or drug pushers pushing smack and crack on vulnerable people.   A selection of society are always going to want to use drugs and prohibition with the War on Drugs is obviously failing.  Look at the prohibition of booze in America about a century ago that can arguably be stated as the cause of the formation of major organized crime in the US like the American Mafia!   As for using The Silk Road well I live in area with a big hard drugs problem and cannabis is smoked openly outside pubs and on the streets.  All the pubs put greese on top of toilet seats covers and the mirrors have all be broken of the walls.  So if I wanted to to buy some drugs I'd probably find it easy and quicker just asking one of the local smack/crackheads or a random smoking a spliff  Roll Eyes

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Prohibition is pushing people to use dangerous "Legal" Alternatives like "Bath Salts" *yum let's eat me a dude face*


Drug's like MDMA and Cocaine are relatively safe in moderation.. All drug's can be safe in moderation.. Does not make a difference what drug it is.. Be it Booze of Crack if Moderation goes down the toilet.. So does your life.....


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June 15, 2012, 07:22:30 PM
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Prohibition is pushing people to use dangerous "Legal" Alternatives like "Bath Salts" *yum let's eat me a dude face*


Drug's like MDMA and Cocaine are relatively safe in moderation.. All drug's can be safe in moderation.. Does not make a difference what drug it is.. Be it Booze of Crack if Moderation goes down the toilet.. So does your life.....

Not all drugs are safe in moderation. Some stuff should never see the outside of a hospital, some other stuff should never be used even for medical uses by trained doctors.

I agree the a lot of drugs that are technically legal are utterly unknown and could do just about anything to the human body.
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June 15, 2012, 08:06:37 PM
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RC's ... Research chemicals.... a lot of these drugs say "not for human consumption" on the package.... and people are taking them....

 



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June 15, 2012, 08:33:21 PM
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RC's ... Research chemicals.... a lot of these drugs say "not for human consumption" on the package.... and people are taking them....

You're also not likely to be able to get RCs from the pot dealer who lives around the corner.  It's typically been a market served by mail order from overseas and Silk Road is well designed for facilitating those kinds of markets.  The fact that many RCs are effective at miniscule doses (the average person won't have scales calibrated finely enough to measure them accurately) also means that people are buying less often than with traditional illicit drugs, further reducing the chance of getting caught.

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