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December 05, 2014, 11:51:08 PM |
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How well do you know this Eric?
I know from this forum, and I communicate through mail. What's the plan if it's clear that cryptomine is a scam/ponzi? Will you end the campaign sooner?
I hope this would not be an issue, I will see if it comes to pass. One precedent here was the Dicebico.in campaign where they allowed them or leave or stay.
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December 05, 2014, 11:53:59 PM |
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I hope this would not be an issue, I will see if it comes to pass.
One precedent here was the Dicebico.in campaign where they allowed them or leave or stay.
I know, I was in it. It's always a tough call for the escrow...
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December 06, 2014, 12:01:17 AM |
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lol what are the odds of picking a random picture from the internet which eventually turns out to be a pic of a muslim terrorist?
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December 06, 2014, 12:04:50 AM |
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lol what are the odds of picking a random picture from the internet which eventually turns out to be a pic of a muslim terrorist?
The article is about terrorism, the guy on a pic might be as well an author of the quoted article. Don't speak Arabic so not sure
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December 06, 2014, 04:47:59 AM |
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This is gonna be a good drama for this December Just want to watch how this drama will be end. Prepare yourself guys
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December 06, 2014, 09:05:22 AM |
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This is gonna be a good drama for this December Just want to watch how this drama will be end. Prepare yourself guys I'm just here for the popcorn
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December 06, 2014, 09:14:25 AM |
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can i join?
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December 06, 2014, 10:12:07 AM |
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This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
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Carra23 (OP)
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December 06, 2014, 10:19:58 AM |
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This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
The 10 day offer was open to anyone who applied in time. In your case it was denied as you joined late. Since you wanted and did not get the 10 day payout, I am willing to pay you up to the current time and let you leave. I would rather you remained, I waited to allow you to sign up in the first place instead of filling up the spot, but its your choice.
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December 06, 2014, 10:20:58 AM |
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This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
I've asked a few times the same question , and I also wanted to offer my free escrow service but he didn't want. I don't know why , but at the end we will see what will happen. Good luck .
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December 06, 2014, 10:27:16 AM |
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OK, since I'm 99% sure Cryptomine.io is not a legit business and I don't feel comfortable wearing their sig, I decided to switch to other campaign. If by any chance Carra decides to finish it sooner, and pay the participants for the posts they made so far, here's my final count + proof of sig: Post coint (excl this one): 820
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December 06, 2014, 10:40:17 AM |
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This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
The 10 day offer was open to anyone who applied in time. In your case it was denied as you joined late. Since you wanted and did not get the 10 day payout, I am willing to pay you up to the current time and let you leave. I would rather you remained, I waited to allow you to sign up in the first place instead of filling up the spot, but its your choice. I joined this campaign as a leap of faith and I'm actually fine giving you the benefit of the doubt. I just chimed in on a conversation that seemed compelling and relevant: I think many of us here are very careful for good reason; FWIW I'm personally convinced escrow is one of the most valuable services this forum provides to the community.
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Carra23 (OP)
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December 06, 2014, 11:02:00 AM |
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OK, since I'm 99% sure Cryptomine.io is not a legit business and I don't feel comfortable wearing their sig, I decided to switch to other campaign.
If by any chance Carra decides to finish it sooner, and pay the participants for the posts they made so far, here's my final count + proof of sig:
Post coint (excl this one): 820
I would have asked you to keep the signature for a few more hours to see how it unfolds, but never mind that now. Sure, I will see what to do if that happens. This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
The 10 day offer was open to anyone who applied in time. In your case it was denied as you joined late. Since you wanted and did not get the 10 day payout, I am willing to pay you up to the current time and let you leave. I would rather you remained, I waited to allow you to sign up in the first place instead of filling up the spot, but its your choice. I joined this campaign as a leap of faith and I'm actually fine giving you the benefit of the doubt. I just chimed in on a conversation that seemed compelling and relevant: I think many of us here are very careful for good reason; FWIW I'm personally convinced escrow is one of the most valuable services this forum provides to the community. If you still want to change your mind later on, you can do so by 10th of Dec. The first payout goes out on 11th and I can pay you at the same time. I will actually make it general. Anyone can take the pay for the first 10 days (as outlined in the 10 day payout scheme) and leave.
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December 06, 2014, 11:05:12 AM |
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OK, since I'm 99% sure Cryptomine.io is not a legit business and I don't feel comfortable wearing their sig, I decided to switch to other campaign.
If by any chance Carra decides to finish it sooner, and pay the participants for the posts they made so far, here's my final count + proof of sig:
Post coint (excl this one): 820
I would have asked you to keep the signature for a few more hours to see how it unfolds, but never mind that now. Sure, I will see what to do if that happens. This is what I had written on a parallel thread. Carra has asked me to post it here so he can respond.
"The fact that only a few of us were allowed the 10-day payout seems like a classic ploy. Pay a few to keep everyone else quiet for the rest of the month. Question: is there really ever any legitimate reason to not use escrow?"
The 10 day offer was open to anyone who applied in time. In your case it was denied as you joined late. Since you wanted and did not get the 10 day payout, I am willing to pay you up to the current time and let you leave. I would rather you remained, I waited to allow you to sign up in the first place instead of filling up the spot, but its your choice. I joined this campaign as a leap of faith and I'm actually fine giving you the benefit of the doubt. I just chimed in on a conversation that seemed compelling and relevant: I think many of us here are very careful for good reason; FWIW I'm personally convinced escrow is one of the most valuable services this forum provides to the community. If you still want to change your mind later on, you can do so by 10th of Dec. The first payout goes out on 11th and I can pay you at the same time. I will actually make it general. Anyone can take the pay for the first 10 days (as outlined in the 10 day payout scheme) and leave. This seems very generous. But why the "and leave" provision?
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December 06, 2014, 11:06:26 AM |
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I'm actually fine giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Giving anyone the benefit of the doubt on this forum is a surefire way to get scammed. Not that there is much doubt about this being a scam. I am curious though, do you give nigerian princesses that claim to have inherited oil concessions and email you out of the blue with a promise of $5M the benefit of the doubt too?
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December 06, 2014, 11:10:08 AM |
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This seems very generous. But why the "and leave" provision?
The offer is for anyone who is not comfortable carrying the signature and/or does not think that I will pay at the end of the month. I am giving them an exit option.
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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December 06, 2014, 11:12:18 AM |
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I'm actually fine giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Giving anyone the benefit of the doubt on this forum is a surefire way to get scammed. Not that there is much doubt about this being a scam. I am curious though, do you give nigerian princesses that claim to have inherited oil concessions and email you out of the blue with a promise of $5M the benefit of the doubt too? Your analogy is a little misleading, but your point is taken. This is why escrow is so important. Bitcoin and everything around it is and ought to be built around the idea that the need for trust is minimized as much as possible
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Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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December 06, 2014, 11:14:44 AM |
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i've updated my sign, let me know if everything is ok
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Carra23 (OP)
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December 06, 2014, 11:28:33 AM |
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This seems very generous. But why the "and leave" provision?
The offer is for anyone who is not comfortable carrying the signature and/or does not think that I will pay at the end of the month. I am giving them an exit option. In order to build up your trust as a member it might be a good idea to offer anyone involved the ten day option. If someone has trusted you once it makes a lot of sense for them to trust you again at that point, not to exit. I took the decision in light of pawel7777's concerns. If things change again, then I may have to make a new announcement. I will as far as possible try to make them in favour of participants. I would like to add that the offer is not that generous. Following the 10 day payout structure means 10-20% lower than the normal payout.
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December 06, 2014, 11:34:38 AM |
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This seems very generous. But why the "and leave" provision?
The offer is for anyone who is not comfortable carrying the signature and/or does not think that I will pay at the end of the month. I am giving them an exit option. In order to build up your trust as a member it might be a good idea to offer anyone involved the ten day option. If someone has trusted you once it makes a lot of sense for them to trust you again at that point, not to exit. I took the decision in light of pawel7777's concerns. If things change again, then I may have to make a new announcement. I will as far as possible try to make them in favour of participants. I would like to add that the offer is not that generous. Following the 10 day payout structure means 10-20% lower than the normal payout. From a game theory perspective I can only imagine that the winning strategy would be to take the 10-20% hit for three 10 day periods, rather than risk the prospect of being nailed for the full month
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Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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