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December 04, 2014, 08:14:07 PM |
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thanks, for tell new clue. i'll try for solve your puzzle
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December 04, 2014, 08:14:14 PM |
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Ok, so since the position of the 'I' in the clue is not meaningful, it seems like the position of the 'X' in the block of text is not meaningful. Instead it must just be the number of X's in each row. I must have made some mistakes counting X's because I get the following: thematterlierbeforetheeyerofalleverybodyreeritoucherisloveritbutklpwrisnot
If I try to break that up into recognizable words I get something that almost makes sense. (I've marked the nonsense in bold). The matter lier before the eye rof all everybody reer it oucher is love rit but klpwr is not.
Now, if the clue creator miscounted, then 'r' could be 's' in some cases, which comes a bit closer to making sense: The matter lies before the eyes of all. Everybody sees it ouchesis loves it but klpws is not.
EDIT: I've re-counted the X's in the 5 rows that spell out "klpws". I'm pretty sure I've counted correctly (11, 12, 16, 23, & 18). Perhaps there is some additional translation that must be done on some of the rows. Perhaps the "+0-5 -0-5" indicates what that additional translation is?
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December 04, 2014, 08:21:26 PM |
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Ok, so since the position of the 'I' in the clue is not meaningful, it seems like the position of the 'X' in the block of text is not meaningful. Instead it must just be the number of X's in each row. I must have made some mistakes counting X's because I get the following: thematterlierbeforetheeyerofalleverybodyreeritoucherisloveritbutklpwrisnot
If I try to break that up into recognizable words I get something that almost makes sense. (I've marked the nonsense in bold). The matter lier before the eye rof all everybody reer it oucher is love rit but klpwr is not.
Now, if the clue creator miscounted, then 'r' could be 's' in some cases, which comes a bit closer to making sense: The matter lies before the eyes of all. Everybody sees it ouchesis loves it but klpws is not.
Great job! Amazing! Maybe that's what the +0-5 and -0-5 means? To + and - some Xs to get the right word? I do think that lier is lies and reer see I think we need to plus some X and - some to get it right
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December 04, 2014, 08:54:52 PM |
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If one uses the method suggested by euthanasiaa (and the part in the clue)you get this:
The matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not
Except for the commas and so, I put them there hehe
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December 04, 2014, 11:46:17 PM |
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Clue: +0-5 -0-5 The matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not As above, so below comes from the Hermeticism Clue: Think back I think that means that have compare it with information on the previous puzzles. Clue: BBBI = 1. IBBB = 1. Seems to be something related with a Crystal structure.
So far i think that is related to Alchemy, after see that the First and Second clues drives you to Hermeticism and the 3rd clue ask you to "think back" and in the previous puzzle was about a Table and the other clue as far i can research is a Crystal.
I assume that is about The Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus, that contain the secret of the prima materia and its transmutation that have total connection with the first clue, that also have been associated with the creation of the philosopher's stone.
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December 05, 2014, 01:15:43 AM |
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"The matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not. It is glorious and vile, precious and of small account, and is found everywhere... But, to be brief, our Matter has as many names as there are things in this world; that is why the foolish know it not". - The Golden Tract Concerning the Stone of the Filosophers
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December 05, 2014, 02:11:08 AM |
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This could be totally irrelevant but I searched up some parts of Clue 4 and I got Mars Global Surveyor.
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December 05, 2014, 08:50:02 AM |
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hmm, translating the first line from binary code into text ends up in rubbish if x=1 and y=0 you get N§*r’
if y=1 and x=0 you get ý±XՍmwas worth a try ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) i still think the +0-5 -0-5 is the clue however as above so below, yeah i'd think looking back to clues of the first puzzles lol, I did exactly that. I used notepad and used the Replace All option. It is not the path to the answer, anyway.
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December 05, 2014, 08:56:06 AM Last edit: December 05, 2014, 10:34:37 AM by ndnhc |
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Good work guys, I think we have solved part of the question. . Hermetic Museum, 1:13 t's the name of a book of alchemical formulae published in 1625, translated into English by Arthur Waite of tarot deck fame. http://www.sacred-texts.com/alc/hm1/hm104.htmby the moist thing it may be preserved from such combustion. To such a conclusion, if rightly accepted, I gladly subscribe. But from the above mentioned philosophical dicta (however obscurely worded they may be) it is clearer than day that the substance of our Blessed Stone is one (although different sages call it by different names), and that Nature has made it ready to the hand of the adept, having willed this one thing, and no other thing in all the world, to be the material of the Stone. This Matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not. It is glorious and vile, precious and of small account, and is found everywhere. Theophrastus Paracelsus, in his book concerning "The Tincture of Physical Things," calls it the Red Lion, which is named by many, but known by few. Hermes, in the first chapter of his Treatise, calls it "Quick Silver coagulated in its innermost chambers." In the "Rosary of the Philosophers" it goes by the name of Salt. But, to be brief, our Matter has as many names as there are things in the world; that is why the foolish know it not. Foolish I call those who, without any previous knowledge of Nature and her properties, undertake to learn this Art, and come to it (as Arnold says) like the ass to the crib, not knowing for what they open their mouths. Hence it is well said by Geber, in the "Sum of Perfection": "He who has no elementary knowledge of Nature is far from a proper appreciation of this Art." And Rosarius says: "I advise no one to approach this Art unless he knows the principle and the regimen of Nature: if he be acquainted with these, little is wanting to him except one thing, nor need he put himself to a great expense, since the stone is one, the medicine is one, the vessel one, the rule one, the disposition one." Yet this one substance is so divided by the operation of Nature, and the skill of the Artist, that it is transmuted into our White Eagle, nor does the splendour of the sun illuminate more abundantly the spagyric matter with its beams; or, as Basilius Valentinus hath it, that, "thence is born a spirit white as scow, and another spirit red as blood, which two spirits are contained in a third hidden thing." Hence King Aros well says: "Our medicine is composed out of two things having one essence, namely, through the mercurial union of a solid and a liquid, a spiritual and a corporeal, a cold and a moist, a warm and a dry, and in All clues : As above, so below Think back BBBI = 1. IBBB = 1. can lead to alchemy as someone pointed out above and to this particular text.
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December 05, 2014, 09:16:20 AM Last edit: December 05, 2014, 10:35:09 AM by ndnhc |
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lol, is it urine? "Following are some nice riddles from various alchemical books showing that the ingredient is urine. This Matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not. It is glorious and vile, precious and of small account, and is found everywhere. The Golden Tract Concerning the Stone of the Philosophers, by Am Anonymous German Philosopher, 16th - 17th Cen. (?) " https://archive.org/stream/TheBookofAquarius/The%20Book%20of%20Aquarius_djvu.txtBook of Aquarius
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December 05, 2014, 09:45:51 AM |
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Since I see that the OP is online and didn't said that my answer is correct, I think that the solution is
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December 05, 2014, 10:14:30 AM |
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Hello! Sorry for not answering sooner! when you decipher the XY code you get ''This Matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not'' which points to the Philosophers stone! so the right answer is Philisophers stone ! Since DannyHamilton solved the Code he will get some BTC and since MasterP4 Solved the ''riddle'' he will also get some BTC Please send me your QR code so i can transfer from my Phone ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i will have a new LEVEL up soon ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) !
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December 05, 2014, 10:29:37 AM |
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Hello! Sorry for not answering sooner! when you decipher the XY code you get ''This Matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not'' which points to the Philosophers stone! so the right answer is Philisophers stone ! Since DannyHamilton solved the Code he will get some BTC and since MasterP4 Solved the ''riddle'' he will also get some BTC Please send me your QR code so i can transfer from my Phone ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i will have a new LEVEL up soon ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ! Perhaps you can explain how the +0-5 -0-5 clue works? Perhaps you can explain how the XY code works? I still don't understand the proper method of getting from: "lier" to "lies" "eyer" to "eyes" "reer" to "sees" "toucher" to "touches" "is" to "it" "lover" to "loves" "klpwr" to "knows"
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December 05, 2014, 10:31:35 AM |
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just wanted to ask the same question about the +0-5 -0-5 clue insane riddle, way above my head
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December 05, 2014, 10:33:34 AM |
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lol, so that was the answer? I had edited my original post. Anyway, i don't deserve it. DannyHamilton does for solving most of it.
Just wondering, is there any history or something for edited/removed posts?
And I didn't get the 0.5 clue either.
And I suspect that the "r" to "s" etc. is actually a typo of OP.?
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December 05, 2014, 11:47:43 AM |
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Hey, the 0-5 + 0-5 part was for the letters, if a word Dident made sense from the Xs you were meant to either + on some X or - some C to get the right letter to form a proper word like sees or touches, sorry if it was a bit confusing.
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December 05, 2014, 12:48:25 PM |
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Hello! Sorry for not answering sooner! when you decipher the XY code you get ''This Matter lies before the eyes of all; everybody sees it, touches it, loves it, but knows it not'' which points to the Philosophers stone! so the right answer is Philisophers stone ! Since DannyHamilton solved the Code he will get some BTC and since MasterP4 Solved the ''riddle'' he will also get some BTC Please send me your QR code so i can transfer from my Phone ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i will have a new LEVEL up soon ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ! Perhaps you can explain how the +0-5 -0-5 clue works? Perhaps you can explain how the XY code works? I still don't understand the proper method of getting from: "lier" to "lies" "eyer" to "eyes" "reer" to "sees" "toucher" to "touches" "is" to "it" "lover" to "loves" "klpwr" to "knows" oh and the XY code works like this. One X Equals A Two Xs Equal B. its just like the number system. 1 = A 2 =B, except now you have to convert the Xs to Numbers then to Letters ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 05, 2014, 05:14:49 PM |
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oh and the XY code works like this. One X Equals A Two Xs Equal B. its just like the number system. 1 = A 2 =B, except now you have to convert the Xs to Numbers then to Letters ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's what I thought, but if that is true then either you mis-counted on multiple rows or I mis-counted. Did the +0-5 -0-5 clue mean that we were supposed to adjust the number of X's somehow? Please go back and carefully check your work. If I mis-counted, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you mis-counted, then you need to understand that mistakes can make a puzzle unsolvable and waste the time of a lot of people. Please double-check your puzzles before you release them.
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December 05, 2014, 07:41:09 PM |
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oh and the XY code works like this. One X Equals A Two Xs Equal B. its just like the number system. 1 = A 2 =B, except now you have to convert the Xs to Numbers then to Letters ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's what I thought, but if that is true then either you mis-counted on multiple rows or I mis-counted. Did the +0-5 -0-5 clue mean that we were supposed to adjust the number of X's somehow? Please go back and carefully check your work. If I mis-counted, then I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you mis-counted, then you need to understand that mistakes can make a puzzle unsolvable and waste the time of a lot of people. Please double-check your puzzles before you release them. hey yes, the +0-5 and -0-5 meant that you had to adjust some letters to make them fit in for example if a sentence would be. A Cat would be YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYX 1 X YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYXXX 3 X YXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 20 X (Don't mind the Ys now) it could also have been like this. YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYX 1 X YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYXXX 3 X YXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 19 X (Don't mind the Ys now) Then it would spell out: A Cas (which would make no sense, that's were the 0-5 method comes in, this this case it would be +1 which would then result in 20 X which would be T) that's why i made some of the Words Correct and some incorrect, to make it more Confusing. i'm sorry if the Clue was a bit weird. it was the same reason why i didn't spell out all T's, Xs the same in all the rows, just to make it more confusing.
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