CPU only mining dead?

[hack_]

I don't see much push for that in recent months, has the community given up?

I like the concept a lot and really wish someone would push it on.

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[barwizi]

I'm still on it, the new NoirShares uses modified Momentum PoW algorithm which is currently CPU only.

If you are planning an alt I would recommend either of the three versions of momentum : Memorycoin , NoirShares & ProtoShares

If you do protoshares or NoirShares, maybe put some merged mining so people can maximise profits.

[barwizi]

You mean Botnet only mining ?
No i think you mean everyone mines with CPU while only 4 guys mine with GPU.

Is it a requirement for someone who develops a gpu miner to release it to the public without profit? I encourage people to develop and sell their code. Much like what happened with PTS.

Other than that, go my way, I keep making changes that render GPU mining inefficient.

[hack_]

Merged mining? I've only seen that on scrypt and sha , possible with your algorithm? Has anyone actually tested GPU resistance on yours ?

[tromp]

I don't see much push for that in recent months, has the community given up?

I like the concept a lot and really wish someone would push it on.

To be CPU friendly you need to mostly avoid computation (which ASICs and GPUs excel at)
and focus on random access latency to hundreds of MB of DRAM (which CPUs excel at).

Cuckoo Cycle does that and is instantly verifiable. See https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo for details.

[tencentcoin]

is very hard for only use cpu mining now throught technology

you know , all the cpu only coin finally become gpu coin

[spud3861]

Bytecent is cpu only, and actually quite possible to mine with a laptop.

[barwizi]

If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.

The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.

[djm34]

If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.

The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.

when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..."  

Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy   (well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what...  )

[barwizi]

If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.

The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.

when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..."  

Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy   (well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what...  )

So who else would be expected to know how to code against gpu implementation?

Also YOU ARE A LIAR , there was never a mining fee for NRS.

[bitboy11]

CPU mining would probably still be available on new or unpopular altcoins.

[conspirosphere.tk]

Check out MagiCoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.0;topicseen

[djm34]

If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.

The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.

when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..."  

Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy   (well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what...  )

So who else would be expected to know how to code against gpu implementation?

Also YOU ARE A LIAR , there was never a mining fee for NRS.

this is funny how fast you are to jump on the "you are a liar" stuff... I might I found something here and people dealing with your coin should really be worried  
Also I have absolutely no reason to lie on gpu miner fee (who gives the shit ?). I mine NRS after launch and there was a gpu miner with 25% fee, I even complained about it as each time it got disconnected, it was just restarting mining for the gpu dev (that a smart one  ).
But if you don't know it is ok to say "I don't know", no reason to call others "liar" over your own ignorance.


To be honest, if someone was asking me to make a cpu only coin, gpu resistant. I would probably refuse... (well with enough btc...  ) because having a gpu dev doing this would probably cause more FUD on the coin than anything else.

[HCLivess]

Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)

[hack_]

If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.

The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.

when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..."  

Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy   (well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what...  )

So who else would be expected to know how to code against gpu implementation?

Also YOU ARE A LIAR , there was never a mining fee for NRS.

this is funny how fast you are to jump on the "you are a liar" stuff... I might I found something here and people dealing with your coin should really be worried  
Also I have absolutely no reason to lie on gpu miner fee (who gives the shit ?). I mine NRS after launch and there was a gpu miner with 25% fee, I even complained about it as each time it got disconnected, it was just restarting mining for the gpu dev (that a smart one  ).
But if you don't know it is ok to say "I don't know", no reason to call others "liar" over your own ignorance.


To be honest, if someone was asking me to make a cpu only coin, gpu resistant. I would probably refuse... (well with enough btc...  ) because having a gpu dev doing this would probably cause more FUD on the coin than anything else.

I managed to get a copy of the original NRS and the material surrounding momentum.

I found lots of miners, some you pay some you don't, some mine a bit to some hard coded address , some whack shit.

but the actual momentum is pretty interesting, I am testing out the difference between GPU vs CPU and while the difference is noticeable, it's not as bad as I've seen elsewhere.

Barwizi, why did you change it?

[hack_]

Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)

So you mean the memorycoin implementation is better? I haven't had a chance to really look at the difference.

I'll test it out later , I want to first compare the balances of my gpu vs cpu NoirShares 1.0 .

[OrientA]

Monero is CPU minable. GPU does not have much advantage. CPU mining is more efficient in terms of hash/J.

[btc-mike]

Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)

That's what the CPU miners want you to think. They are lurking with their price charts to determine exactly when AWS instances become profitable. The big guys can fire up hundreds of instances within 30 seconds.

[hack_]

Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:

Pretty good at discouraging GPU  if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10

I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.

I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?

Btw , thanks for all the replies, the information is very useful

[hack_]

Also, why does it seem like all cpu coins start with very low difficulty? Almost zero difficulty, meaning that they were all instamined by those in the know.

Anyone ever mined HeavyCoin?