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I did some experimenting with freebitco.in new 'Advertise' feature and have mixed feelings. I created and tested few banner ads, my stats for the best of them are: Views: 13,703 Clicks: 43 Total cost: BTC0.00904398. They charge for views not for clicks, so basically I've got: 1 click for every 319 views and cost per click of BTC0.00021Didn't manage to convert it to profit, but didn't really expect to, since it's a small, experimental run. I don't have much experience in advertising, so my question is: Are the above results good/poor/average? What are your opinions on freebitco.in as advertising tool? I like how easy it is to set up and manage a campaign, but I'm bit concerned about the quality of their audience. Since most of them are looking to get tiny amounts from faucet, their not likely to be holding/operating with reasonable amounts of bitcoin, which doesn't really make them 'valuable customers'. Is it worth it? Are there any better alternatives (working in a similar way)? EDIT: Banner used: (image ref linked)
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You need more clicks , it may become profitabile. You have a really low CTR rate, You have to test different ad placements,different positions , try using ad networks etc.
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December 05, 2014, 05:38:10 AM |
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In terms of numbers alone, that's a fairly cheap CPC. Most CPCs I see with AdSense are in the $0.20 to $1.50 range, so your cost of around $0.08 is pretty good.
But you're right, the traffic is not very valuable. If someone is scrounging on a faucet for a few pennies, they probably don't have much to spend on the site you're advertising.
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December 05, 2014, 08:16:23 AM |
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Was this over the course of one day? I expected it to be higher.
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December 05, 2014, 10:50:35 AM |
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You need more clicks , it may become profitabile. You have a really low CTR rate, You have to test different ad placements,different positions , try using ad networks etc.
I think CTR of 0.31% is actually pretty high (considering specifics of the website). Freebitco.in doesn't allow you to modify size and placement of your banners, you can only experiment with changing colours/appearance. In terms of numbers alone, that's a fairly cheap CPC. Most CPCs I see with AdSense are in the $0.20 to $1.50 range, so your cost of around $0.08 is pretty good.
But you're right, the traffic is not very valuable. If someone is scrounging on a faucet for a few pennies, they probably don't have much to spend on the site you're advertising.
Yup, comparing to adsense it's supercheap, but with adsense you can pay for clicks not views. With freebitco.in it's not guaranteed that you'd get any clicks at all. But adsense is out of the question, they won't allow bitcoin gambling ads (or any other gambling ads). Was this over the course of one day? I expected it to be higher.
Not even a day, more like few hours. What did you expect to be higher? CTR or CPC?
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Don't know why, but number of clicks jumped by 1 to 44 (number of views hasn't changed). The campaign is paused since 1-2 days before I started this thread...
Either there's something wrong with their counter, or someone kept the tab open for a few days (?) and eventually click my ad. Similar thing happened with the other campaign, got click ~2 hours after it stopped.
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I'm doubt that, many people come to that site just for playing that game,so you would get lots of views but not click.
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December 07, 2014, 10:21:50 AM |
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I'm doubt that, many people come to that site just for playing that game,so you would get lots of views but not click.
But I did get clicks. My CTR rate was quite good. The question is what's the quality of those clicks, is the audience by definition bitcoin-poor.
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December 08, 2014, 11:49:02 AM |
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I'm doubt that, many people come to that site just for playing that game,so you would get lots of views but not click.
But I did get clicks. My CTR rate was quite good. The question is what's the quality of those clicks, is the audience by definition bitcoin-poor. Exactly. Those visiting freebitco.in are mostly newbies working for their first mBTC. It would be a good place if you are advertising for another faucet or ptc site or something newbies can get free bitcoin. On the other hand, probably only a small % of them are interested in gambling with their hard earned bitcoin from faucets.
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December 08, 2014, 05:24:52 PM |
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Exactly. Those visiting freebitco.in are mostly newbies working for their first mBTC. It would be a good place if you are advertising for another faucet or ptc site or something newbies can get free bitcoin. On the other hand, probably only a small % of them are interested in gambling with their hard earned bitcoin from faucets.
That's probably true. But there's always a chance some of those newbies will learn that faucets are waste of time and will buy some BTC becoming potentially valuable customers. And surely there are few bitcoin-rich people among the freebitco.in users, mainly those who earn by ref links (top ref earners list is pretty impressive). Long story short - I didn't convert those clicks into profit. Theoretically it's still possible, but very unlikely. It still can be profitable on a large scale, in terms of dice sites, all you need to offset your expenses is 1 or 2 regular players wagering larger amounts.
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December 08, 2014, 05:37:18 PM |
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Exactly. Those visiting freebitco.in are mostly newbies working for their first mBTC. It would be a good place if you are advertising for another faucet or ptc site or something newbies can get free bitcoin. On the other hand, probably only a small % of them are interested in gambling with their hard earned bitcoin from faucets.
That's probably true. But there's always a chance some of those newbies will learn that faucets are waste of time and will buy some BTC becoming potentially valuable customers. And surely there are few bitcoin-rich people among the freebitco.in users, mainly those who earn by ref links (top ref earners list is pretty impressive). Long story short - I didn't convert those clicks into profit. Theoretically it's still possible, but very unlikely. It still can be profitable on a large scale, in terms of dice sites, all you need to offset your expenses is 1 or 2 regular players wagering larger amounts. If you wish, you might like to check www.CoinLearn.org. You may book spot directly from us or from buysellads => https://buysellads.com/buy/detail/234902
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December 08, 2014, 06:40:23 PM |
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Thanks for the offer, but isn't your audience by definition very similar to freebitco.in? And your price (through buysellads) is much higher than theirs: $0.65 per 1000 impressions compared to $0.25. Are you able to match their offer when buying directly, or better yet - to charge per click?
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it's quite cheap for 300 views and 1 click just 0.2 mbtc, $0.08 usd only
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December 10, 2014, 02:42:36 AM |
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You can check CoinAd.com - they are even cheaper, but it depends what you need..
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December 10, 2014, 05:57:37 AM |
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Hadn't heard of this platform. Will definitely check them out. There's CoinURL and a-ads.com as well.
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December 10, 2014, 08:45:23 AM |
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Hadn't heard of this platform. Will definitely check them out. There's CoinURL and a-ads.com as well.
It's a popular faucet, not an ad platform, I believe.
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December 10, 2014, 02:51:12 PM |
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Hadn't heard of this platform. Will definitely check them out. There's CoinURL and a-ads.com as well.
It's a popular faucet, not an ad platform, I believe. I'm not sure guys if you are talking about CoinAd but yes thats "click-ad" faucet - positive is that clicking there people who now at least basic things about Bitcoin.. This is a bit more expensive but is much better: http://btcclicks.com/
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CoinLearn
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December 13, 2014, 11:28:42 PM |
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Thanks for the offer, but isn't your audience by definition very similar to freebitco.in? And your price (through buysellads) is much higher than theirs: $0.65 per 1000 impressions compared to $0.25. Are you able to match their offer when buying directly, or better yet - to charge per click? Actually I have been able to sell @ 1 USD per 1000 impression at BuySellAds. On this forum, my auctions per spot starts at 0.1 BTC per month... i. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813017.msg9414656#msg9414656 - 0.1 BTC ii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564561.msg6741498#msg6741498 - 0.2 BTC Yes, the audience set of CoinLearn will mostly overlap with any other faucet, but the difference is the audience that come for learning.
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ahmedjadoon
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December 22, 2014, 01:28:26 PM |
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My Experience: I advertised my faucet on freebitco.in with high hopes but got unfortunate results. NAME STATUS VIEWS CLICKS COST (BTC) Dailyfreebits 42,722 68 0.03246872 I got $0.18 CPC and around 13 signups for this cost.It costed me $0.82 per signup.
On the other hand I advertised on Adbit.co(several faucet incl bitcoinker, bitcoinzebra, landofbitcoin, quickbitco.in etc) and got $0.043 CPC and it costed me $0.28 for each signup.Actually I got 90 signups for BTC0.08 spent at Adbit.co which is many times better than freebitco.in.
Now I'm trying a-ads network wide advertising and I'll post results with them.
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pawel7777 (OP)
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December 22, 2014, 04:35:42 PM Last edit: January 04, 2015, 11:51:35 AM by pawel7777 |
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My Experience: I advertised my faucet on freebitco.in with high hopes but got unfortunate results. NAME STATUS VIEWS CLICKS COST (BTC) Dailyfreebits 42,722 68 0.03246872 I got $0.18 CPC and around 13 signups for this cost.It costed me $0.82 per signup.
On the other hand I advertised on Adbit.co(several faucet incl bitcoinker, bitcoinzebra, landofbitcoin, quickbitco.in etc) and got $0.043 CPC and it costed me $0.28 for each signup.Actually I got 90 signups for BTC0.08 spent at Adbit.co which is many times better than freebitco.in.
Now I'm trying a-ads network wide advertising and I'll post results with them.
Thanks for sharing. Freebitco.in seems to have perfect audience for you, but that's a huge difference between freebitco.in and Adbit. Did you use the same banner? Try playing a bit with banner's colour, contrast etc. You can probably get much better results by using something more attention grabbing. For example, I used this banner (made in MSpaint ) and got pretty good results, as noted in the first post (1 click for 312 views): (image ref linked)While this banner only got me 1 click for 1177 views: (image ref linked)Notice the first one is the work of complete noob (myself) the other is properly done, but it's got mild colours, no sharp contrast, so doesn't grab that much of attention.
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