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December 07, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
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Just curious, why did you opt for CLAMS? Never heard of them untill this point

They are fairly distributed across BTC, LTC and DOGE.  So kinda brings it all under one roof.  If you had a active address May 2014 then you have CLAMs probably.

(I didn't opt for clams.. this is a Dooglus site)

If they can accept CALM, why not Bitcoin ? And if they can accept Bitcoin, why did they shut down in the first place ? Is Dooglus still operating from Canada ?

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December 07, 2014, 10:24:03 AM
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The order book is so thin, it's almost a meaningless number. I caused the price to literally double with an at-market order of 1 BTC.

My point, exactly.
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December 07, 2014, 10:25:13 AM
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first time hear CLAM

what is this ?

Cheesy

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December 07, 2014, 10:25:29 AM
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The order book is so thin, it's almost a meaningless number. I caused the price to literally double with an at-market order of 1 BTC.

My point, exactly.

Once it gets added to cryptsy or mintpal we should see an increase in volume.
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December 07, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
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I think you should put a PGP message signed from dooglus or something like that in the first post

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December 07, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
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Could you add viacoin? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699278 Viacoin OP
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December 07, 2014, 10:33:26 AM
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I think you should put a PGP message signed from dooglus or something like that in the first post

I'm sure doog will sign off using the old JD cold wallet to affirm the new CLAM wallet n such.

I believe in my heart of hearts that it truly is doog and he is probably waiting to fix up something or something.  It is meant as a play tool for crypto people (BTC, DOGE and LTC.)  It should be got for free... don't just rush buying n selling.

All the "digging" can be done using the JD troll box.

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December 07, 2014, 10:34:35 AM
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VOTE FOR CLAM!

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December 07, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
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Why didn't dooglus pick a currency that already has a market and added on some exchanges? This one looks so thin particularly for a site like just-dice and most of the coins are property of owners who didn't know they had it (found some CLAMS in an old wallet that had balance in 24 may, Plenty of just-dice people found they had hundreds of CLAMS too). Also I doubt investors who had thousands of BTC in just-dice would convert their bitcoins to some random alt-currency and put it in there.
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December 07, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
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I think you should put a PGP message signed from dooglus or something like that in the first post

I'm sure doog will sign off using the old JD cold wallet to affirm the new CLAM wallet n such.

I believe in my heart of hearts that it truly is doog and he is probably waiting to fix up something or something.

Me too. I'm the " R"  speaking with you in the JD chat right now,  I invested (and gambled  Grin ) till the first hours the site was up. But before invest more I need dooglus to show up, this thing is a lot unexpected and a bit shady and, you know, this is a bitcoin related business... what if somebody hacked his passwords?

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December 07, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
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Well.. its just great that Just-Dice has re-launched. I never had the opportunity to play on the "original" JD as i got into BTC gambling pretty late. I have seen several people across the internet, on BTC talk and gambling chat rooms keep cribbing about the fact that they wanted a site that would feel like JD with an honest operator like doogs and they were quite unhappy that they couldn't find one! With the re-launch i understand that clams will be the coin used to circumvent the fact that they cannot be converted to USD hence gambling them is legal where Doogs is.

What happens if Clams / any exchange decide to open a CLAMS/USD market? Does this mean that the site will go belly-up again? This is the only question really plaguing me atm. Will he also try other cryptos which cannot be converted to USD?

I got myself some clams and i am gonna try out the site soon. Grin

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December 07, 2014, 10:50:36 AM
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Seems as CLAM on JD has an impact on the price:

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December 07, 2014, 11:03:07 AM
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Seems as CLAM on JD has an impact on the price:



Lots of people playing and fucking around I guess.  Some taking totally free used X addresses and walking away with a few whole Bitcoins or w/e they want since LTC and DOGE is included as well.

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December 07, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
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does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?
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December 07, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
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does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?
Not sure about the existing one, but their multisig vault would allow you to control your private keys.

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December 07, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
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does anyone know how can i get a private key from coinbase
to get my clams from those addresses?

Email them and ask for your coins (clams.)

They use a shared wallet, so they can't give the priv key to you or it could pwn someone else.

Email email email.

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December 07, 2014, 03:19:33 PM
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December 07, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
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Here are a few of my concerns:

a) There is no richlist available to my knowledge.  We have no idea how many people were privy to the inside information that Just-dice was going to solely feature clams and we have no idea how many coins the top holders have and/or what their intentions are for the coin either.

b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!

c) There is no way to tell at this moment what will happen when Clams inevitably gets paired with FIAT.  Will Just-dice close down and then it becomes a free for all sell off of clams?  How can we accurately speculate the stability of Clams?  The order book is extremely thin right now.  There are several hypothetical situations that do not play out well for users if they buy-in heavily into clams.

Final thoughts:

Just-dice has always been a great reputable site ran by a very competent and trustworthy operator (Dooglus), but I highly suggest that users do not gamble for high amounts of bitcoin value as there's many unanswered questions and high levels of risk.

If you want to play for fun, mess around with a trusted gaming site, and are not too concerned with financial risk, then by all means I think Just-dice is one of the best places for this.

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December 07, 2014, 04:18:02 PM
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Here are a few of my concerns:

a) There is no richlist available to my knowledge.  We have no idea how many people were privy to the inside information that Just-dice was going to solely feature clams and we have no idea how many coins the top holders have and/or what their intentions are for the coin either.

b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!

c) There is no way to tell at this moment what will happen when Clams inevitably gets paired with FIAT.  Will Just-dice close down and then it becomes a free for all sell off of clams?  How can we accurately speculate the stability of Clams?  The order book is extremely thin right now.  There are several hypothetical situations that do not play out well for users if they buy-in heavily into clams.

Final thoughts:

Just-dice has always been a great reputable site ran by a very competent and trustworthy operator (Dooglus), but I highly suggest that users do not gamble for high amounts of bitcoin value as there's many unanswered questions and high levels of risk.

If you want to play for fun, mess around with a trusted gaming site, and are not too concerned with financial risk, then by all means I think Just-dice is one of the best places for this.



You are right there are many open questions. Especially what happens when the site closes, is there an exit strategy?
If dooglus got his hands on a large amount of CLAM before hand at say 0.001 and went public saying he will sell it back now and will buy back when the site closes it will be better for investors.
At least it is fun to see just-dice reopens but investing in it is gambling when you can lose more than 50% of the value of your investment because you bought CLAM at a high price then sell low. Investors are going to be more careful than if it reopened in BTC. If the bankroll is smaller, the return on investment will be higher for investors.

That being said, they did their research and CLAM has been distributed widely so many people have it without knowing it, they will get a hold of their CLAM and sell them on the exchange or bet them on j-d so the exchange rate should just rise when the order book is thin but should not go to the moon.

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December 07, 2014, 04:41:30 PM
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b) People are being asked to copy and paste their private key into a PUBLIC chatroom.  It's not hard to believe that users will not understand the instructions, mistype and reveal their private keys openly with funds still inside of them.  This is not OK.  Dooglus seems to get away with it because he has a spotless record, but what if this becomes common practice in the bitcoin gaming scene?  Scamming gaming operators will have a field day!  Please be EXTREMELY cautious and protective with your private keys!!!!



Problems already been addressed about typos.

Priv keys are censored in public chat and private messaging.

All priv keys are told over n over n over to be empty prior.  Even if dooglus says he doesn't keep the information, so it would be a was to hack + should all be empty anyways.

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