Definitive proof the owner of pbmining is a scammer

[Pinchloaf]

Check out grmining.com looks very similar to pbmining setup in name and site, Could it be the same guy?  either way i would avoid it looks to be another scam to me.  Thoughts?


The offer 5 year contracts but only have the site paid up for 1 year.....?   At least PB  paid for the site for the lenth of the contract they offer. LOL


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[MrTeal]

Also why Sask? That seemed a bit unusual to me too. Surely if you were going to run a "cloud-mining" company you would want to be in a major hub where high speed internet is available. Such as Toronto. Sask is too remote in my opinion.

LOL... There's some reasons you might not want to run a mining farm in Saskatchewan, but lack of high speed internet is not one of them.

[EyesWideOpen]

What kind of journalist are you?

freelance photojournalist and owner of a news agency, regularly published in the UK national press and in Europe syndicating content via DPA.

clippings:
http://rgspix.com/RAGS.htm

Huge difference between a journalist and a stringer photographer, IMO.
Fyi, your website won't load properly. Can't view any of your tearsheets.

you haven't a clue mate, i do quite well in all of my businesses.
regards,

Clue of what, mate?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to pick on you. But I do get tired when every Tom, Dick and Ahmad are all journalists on this board. And when you get snarky, I tend to respond in kind, mate.

[Perryl]

Also why Sask? That seemed a bit unusual to me too. Surely if you were going to run a "cloud-mining" company you would want to be in a major hub where high speed internet is available. Such as Toronto. Sask is too remote in my opinion.

LOL... There's some reasons you might not want to run a mining farm in Saskatchewan, but lack of high speed internet is not one of them.

I'd be annoyed as a residential customer in Sask.

I don't think a company operating hundreds - thousands of machines would be happy without high speed internet.

Why wouldn't high speed internet be required for several ph of hashing?

[Puppet]

Why wouldn't high speed internet be required for several ph of hashing?

Nope, you could do it over a cellular connection if need be. Look up stratum protocol.
What is needed for several PH of hashing is several PH worth of equipment though

[MrTeal]

Also why Sask? That seemed a bit unusual to me too. Surely if you were going to run a "cloud-mining" company you would want to be in a major hub where high speed internet is available. Such as Toronto. Sask is too remote in my opinion.

LOL... There's some reasons you might not want to run a mining farm in Saskatchewan, but lack of high speed internet is not one of them.

I'd be annoyed as a residential customer in Sask.

I don't think a company operating hundreds - thousands of machines would be happy without high speed internet.

Why wouldn't high speed internet be required for several ph of hashing?

Not sure where you're getting that. SaskTel was the first TelCo in Canada to offer commercial ADSL in 1996, and one of the first to offer FTTH.
My home internet connection is 100/20Mbps down/up, and I've had it for a year. It might not be 10G SONET, but even that would be more than enough for any size farm. With Stratum, bandwidth really isn't as important as having multiple redundant connections with different carriers.

[Perryl]

Interesting, I'm pretty new to all of this, obviously. I figured internet connection would be more important than that, good to know it isn't, I'm interested in buying hardware. 

I didn't know that about Sasktel either. I guess it's just a natural assumption that Sask is a 100 years behind places like Ontario.

Cloudmining makes sense to me, but I don't understand why companies like OVH are renting out servers instead of building massive asic farms if it can be profitable. Surely big providers would have been the first to run massive datacenters. If cloudmining is not profitable, and hardware mining is obsolete before the truck delivers your asic. Is there any way to mine BTC profitably anymore?

Sometimes I want to shoot myself for looking at this in 2011 and saying it would go nowhere.

[MrTeal]

I didn't know that about Sasktel either. I guess it's just a natural assumption that Sask is a 100 years behind places like Ontario.

LOL... And that's why everyone else thinks people from Toronto are a bunch of pretentious pricks.

[Perryl]

I didn't know that about Sasktel either. I guess it's just a natural assumption that Sask is a 100 years behind places like Ontario.

LOL... And that's why everyone else thinks people from Toronto are a bunch of pretentious pricks.

Haha, I can't even disagree.

[siameze]

But I do get tired when every Tom, Dick and Ahmad are all journalists on this board.

Oh all the Faux News writers congregate in alt land. 

[Puppet]

He wouldnt be the first scammer thats fully doxxed yet, got away with it. Its not like ive seen Alberto Armandi in jail yet.

[JohnnyBTC]

Hello,
Some time have passed now and I was wondering if anyone had had any return on complaint of any kind or any news about this scam (I remember some people said they were Canada based and Pbmining clients maybe they were able to obtain something) ?

theres also talk of hiring hitmen to go and 'teach him his last lesson" would like an update on that as well

[clarkjhaley13]

As someone who was a advocate for pbmining it is time I must say they are just like all the others and nothing but thieves. Is sad to see but I guess it just goes to show that there are scammers in every little nook and cranny in the crypto world.

PbMining owners need to be held accountable for their actions but from what I have seen this too shall be gotten around in some way.

Beginning to think that Satoshi was just a ring leader for a bunch of intelligent thieves who developed the ultimate scam on the world.

Well I learned my lesson and will never invest in cloud or otherwise mining that I do not personally hold the equipment doing the mining.

[Syke]

As someone who was a advocate for pbmining it is time I must say they are just like all the others and nothing but thieves. Is sad to see but I guess it just goes to show that there are scammers in every little nook and cranny in the crypto world.

PbMining owners need to be held accountable for their actions but from what I have seen this too shall be gotten around in some way.

Beginning to think that Satoshi was just a ring leader for a bunch of intelligent thieves who developed the ultimate scam on the world.

Well I learned my lesson and will never invest in cloud or otherwise mining that I do not personally hold the equipment doing the mining.

Don't blame bitcoin for your own lack of due diligence. PBMining was called a scam from day one, but people didn't listen.

[Syke]

Yes if you read some on the internet it has been called a scam pretty soon...  three words, four if you count "probably" in one post surrounded by dozen of others saying everything was going fine, we who lost some or a lot in it have every f**ing right plus a duty to blame this kind of thieves.

Oh, definitely blame Jason, etc. Just don't blame bitcoin. Jason is the problem. Not bitcoin.

[mrhelpful]

So the end result is the same, but did you know that all this is slowley killing bitcoin lol.

Think about it, if this pbmining fellow wants to horde all the money in the world, and all negative news about bitcoin is scams and we want new users to adopt this coin.

Why would they? They already know this "sunken fallacy" so they dont bother and thus the value of bitcoin goes to zero dying to his own hand.

[Syke]

So the end result is the same, but did you know that all this is slowley killing bitcoin lol.

Think about it, if this pbmining fellow wants to horde all the money in the world, and all negative news about bitcoin is scams and we want new users to adopt this coin.

Why would they? They already know this "sunken fallacy" so they dont bother and thus the value of bitcoin goes to zero dying to his own hand.

This is why so many of us speak out so loudly about all the scams going on. Help spread the word about these scams. When you see a new one pop up, help squash it.

[guitarplinker]

Yes if you read some on the internet it has been called a scam pretty soon...  three words, four if you count "probably" in one post surrounded by dozen of others saying everything was going fine, we who lost some or a lot in it have every f**ing right plus a duty to blame this kind of thieves.

Oh, definitely blame Jason, etc. Just don't blame bitcoin. Jason is the problem. Not bitcoin.

People like "Jason" if he even exists to begin with use this site and bitcoin to promote and do what they do, just look at the members list and at the activity of the very member named Pbmining... it's just huge...

and it definitely will make me stay away from both bitcoins and this site.

Jason definitely exists.. I know he used fake names with the initals "JB" when being interviewed by crypto-news sites, but Jason Boyko is the name registered on his business registration, I don't think he'd lie about that. Plus, it was the name on his Facebook profile before he took it down, after it was publicly linked.

[ABitNut]

Digging up this old thread.

http://pbmining.com/ is "under reconstruction" now. It was still working last week.

[siameze]

Digging up this old thread.

http://pbmining.com/ is "under reconstruction" now. It was still working last week.

Now that they believe everyone has forgotten, they will "restructure" with a "new team" that is totally not comprised of the same individuals that ran the operations before.