ASICMiner BE300S Samples Arrived, <0.2W/G Achieved at Board Level

[DigitalPackrat]

And here we go again. Posting about how things will be better but still ignoring the existing issues and promises. Why are you still not responding to emails and PM's? Are you just hoping all the prisma users will forget about the compensation or the lack of communication and just fork over more money to buy new gear and hope that it will work better than what we already paid for?

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[AJRGale]

And here we go again. Posting about how things will be better but still ignoring the existing issues and promises. Why are you still not responding to emails and PM's? Are you just hoping all the prisma users will forget about the compensation or the lack of communication and just fork over more money to buy new gear and hope that it will work better than what we already paid for?

What prisma? what fire? huh? ive payed 100btc for many of these chips so i can swim in them

jk, you are right though, i have seen this happen too, companies ignoring their users/consumers to move onto other things, that's why they all go register up as a limited liability company (LLC).. i know little about the LLC legal form, i've known nothing like this in Australia.. (or i could be ignorant of this?)

Lemme just clarify, i have no idea where ASICMiner sit in the business model, what laws they are governed by, and what they care to do as a business.
Just stating others are also doing the "ignore customer issues, make new stuff" game

[helipotte]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

[John (John K.)]

And here we go again. Posting about how things will be better but still ignoring the existing issues and promises. Why are you still not responding to emails and PM's? Are you just hoping all the prisma users will forget about the compensation or the lack of communication and just fork over more money to buy new gear and hope that it will work better than what we already paid for?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889147.0

Friedcat is an honorable person.

[MichaelBliss]

And here we go again. Posting about how things will be better but still ignoring the existing issues and promises. Why are you still not responding to emails and PM's? Are you just hoping all the prisma users will forget about the compensation or the lack of communication and just fork over more money to buy new gear and hope that it will work better than what we already paid for?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889147.0

Friedcat is an honorable person.

I think returning that btc from the transaction error a while back cemented that.   

[friedcat]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

[freedomno1]

And here we go again. Posting about how things will be better but still ignoring the existing issues and promises. Why are you still not responding to emails and PM's? Are you just hoping all the prisma users will forget about the compensation or the lack of communication and just fork over more money to buy new gear and hope that it will work better than what we already paid for?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889147.0

Friedcat is an honorable person.

I think returning that btc from the transaction error a while back cemented that.   

Indeed that was a ridiculously large mining fee for people that recall that event.
It's good on Friedcat to do this as well.

[JimiQ84]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

USB 3.0 is being used more prominently nowadays, could it be useful?

[friedcat]

Hmm... LGA vs QFN..  does that mean the heat goes out the top of the chip now?
 

Yes. But in low power mode we think it's possible to make the system without heatsinks
in either side.

The heatsinks in bottom just mainly serves a lifting purpose and meanwhile maybe dissipate
some heat.

[friedcat]

I was hoping they were gonna stick with pin-compatibility with BE200 chips like was mentioned when they open-sourced stuff earlier this year.

We tried hard and we can't. The overhead of QFN-based package is overwhelming. And this time our die
size is much less.

[Subw]

Good work friedcat.
What time frame do you expect to release ready miners?
And what form factor it would be? Tubes?

[siampumpkin]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

USB 3.0 is being used more prominently nowadays, could it be useful?

Is producing a small, low cost USB 3.0 miner actually being considered? Sounds interesting but would need at least ten of them to be productive.

[Lincoln6Echo]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

USB 3.0 is being used more prominently nowadays, could it be useful?

Is producing a small, low cost USB 3.0 miner actually being considered? Sounds interesting but would need at least ten of them to be productive.

USB  Bitcoinlottery devices aka solominers would be awesome

[TheRealSteve]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

As an aside: both the hex•fury and the NanoFury 6 already do 10Gh/s+.
I'd certainly welcome another addition, though

[siampumpkin]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

As an aside: both the hex•fury and the NanoFury 6 already do 10Gh/s+.
I'd certainly welcome another addition, though

One that did 40GH to 50GH at a reasonable cost and power level would be nice! 

[Luke-Jr]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

One could drop the MCU and use a USB-to-GPIO (or similar, depending on chip interface) to offload work onto the host....

[Blazed]

I think something small like Rock Miner did was pretty cool (the 100GH unit). Maybe make a pod like Bitmain...something that does not require a computer PSU to run.

[dogie]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

One could drop the MCU and use a USB-to-GPIO (or similar, depending on chip interface) to offload work onto the host....

As long as someone remembers to program a manufacturer and model identifier!

[Luke-Jr]

I think something small like Rock Miner did was pretty cool (the 100GH unit). Maybe make a pod like Bitmain...something that does not require a computer PSU to run.

To not require an external PSU means they have to put in an internal PSU.
Which means additional certifications are needed, and can sometimes delay customs/shipment...

(that being said, I agree it's nice to have)

[Taugeran]

10Gh USB miner? Maybe?

Maybe this could be a return of the super cheap USB miners.

The component overhead of USB miners is still a problem.

1 MCU, 1 DCDC, 1 USB-to-UART chip, for each 2 chips, is so much cost to take.

If we make a 8 to 9 chip USB miner (about 40G), DCDC cost can be saved. But USB2.0 does
not have enough watt capability to power it.

One could drop the MCU and use a USB-to-GPIO (or similar, depending on chip interface) to offload work onto the host....

As long as someone remembers to program a manufacturer and model identifier!

And unique serial number