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December 10, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
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December 10, 2014, 11:09:40 AM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
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It is simple economy, when the demand rises and the supply stays the same price goes up. The "fools" are the people who don't have bought BTC already or who didn't buy enough for their future use.

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December 10, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
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Mark Zuckerberg? LOL Cheesy
maybe layman with more money will buying Cheesy
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December 10, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
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The fool that just sold a loaf of bread for $1000+?

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December 10, 2014, 11:20:55 AM
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Well you do get the type of thinking that unless it's at least worth 1000 again, then it's maybe dying.... but if 1000 is possible then 5000 is nearby. So, yah, there could actually be some people out there that arbitrary figures will impress enough that they buy then, instead of now.

But if you really want to save people from themselves.... tell them to get in cheap! Cheesy

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December 10, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
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Large investment firms can buy on the tops. In dec 2013 there have been million $ funds that moved into bitcoin at premium ($1,000 +).
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December 10, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
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A new user with a german nick, that translates into humans enemy. lol

It is simple economy, when the demand rises and the supply stays the same price goes up. The "fools" are the people who don't have bought BTC already or who didn't buy enough for their future use.

I'm new because i like it. My nick shouldn't concern you - or are you a lover of humans? If you are no altruist you got no business with my name.

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what 'demand'? From whom? Why?

So you think the others are like you thinking the train is leaving them and that's where bitcoin gets its value because evryone thinks the train is leaving them?
LMAO!

Does anyone have another explanation what the potential demand could be other than just some people who think the train is leaving them?


Large investment firms can buy on the tops. In dec 2013 there have been million $ funds that moved into bitcoin at premium ($1,000 +).

i just hope they did not educate themselves too much and do it again. What if they actually got loaded already and now have enough? Who's buying then? Yes, investement firms makes sense. But who do they think they can sell to for 1000$+ ?

I have to say: these days people can just launch their own coin or buy one of almost 1000 already exisitng altcoins for their specific usecase. Why should everyone be chasing bitcoin?
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December 10, 2014, 12:19:16 PM
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I will still be buying when the price is 1000+

Buying with dollars and selling with euros because it is the cheapest way to move money from my US bank to my german bank.

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December 10, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
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I will still be buying when the price is 1000+

Buying with dollars and selling with euros because it is the cheapest way to move money from my US bank to my german bank.

correct. Only the actual real usecases can make real demand. And they are few... or not strong enough to draw people in who aren't technically interested already. I think peoples expectations of another meteoric rise of 10x or more are too high.

Getting Average Joe in here will not be happening anytime soon. Especially with such a fucked up chart.
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December 10, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
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Mark Zuckerberg? LOL Cheesy
maybe layman with more money will buying Cheesy

Maybe he is the real Mark Zuckerberg  Grin , but I'm not sure. However  I think the people will buy also bitcoin if it will raise to 1'000 dollars.
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December 10, 2014, 12:33:24 PM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
Has this question been answered before?

Mark Zuckerberg? LOL Cheesy
maybe layman with more money will buying Cheesy

Maybe he is the real Mark Zuckerberg  Grin , but I'm not sure. However  I think the people will buy also bitcoin if it will raise to 1'000 dollars.

dude, when btc is 1000$ people will buy doge or litecoin then or some other (in relation) undervalued coin. Altcoins will be booming later, no doubt. But all that is aswell just speculation demand.

We already found out: merchant adoption does not help raise the price because merchants do not hold it. So there aren't that many usecases left which could create REAL demand.

Anyways, keep the answers coming. Who is buying that expensive coin later?
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December 10, 2014, 12:55:52 PM
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I will buy btc for $1,000 but not before it went to $5,500 first  Cheesy
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December 10, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
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correct. Only the actual real usecases can make real demand. And they are few... or not strong enough to draw people in who aren't technically interested already. I think peoples expectations of another meteoric rise of 10x or more are too high.

If we had 600 million users, a 10x rise would be too much to expect. But if we've got under 6 million, then 100x is easily possible.

Maximum potential is 1.23 Billion users if we say that everyone capable of using facebook can use bitcoin. And where is the starting point? Well those snippy snappy critics tell us we might only have 200,000 users right now, and we can hit $1000 with that many? Hokay, so that's only six hundred and fifteen thousand percent upside potential. 615,000%... or if you believe community estimates of around 2 million, a paltry 61 thousand percent instead.

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December 10, 2014, 12:57:25 PM
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I will buy btc for $1,000 but not before it went to $5,500 first  Cheesy

Heh true, I may well be buying at 1500 even on the backside of the next big one.

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December 10, 2014, 12:59:04 PM
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So, in summary:

Bitcoin is going to $1000!!!

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December 10, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
Last edit: December 10, 2014, 02:26:27 PM by Menschenfeind
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correct. Only the actual real usecases can make real demand. And they are few... or not strong enough to draw people in who aren't technically interested already. I think peoples expectations of another meteoric rise of 10x or more are too high.

If we had 600 million users, a 10x rise would be too much to expect. But if we've got under 6 million, then 100x is easily possible.

Maximum potential is 1.23 Billion users if we say that everyone capable of using facebook can use bitcoin. And where is the starting point? Well those snippy snappy critics tell us we might only have 200,000 users right now, and we can hit $1000 with that many? Hokay, so that's only six hundred and fifteen thousand percent upside potential. 615,000%... or if you believe community estimates of around 2 million, a paltry 61 thousand percent instead.

i think we are digging up an important point here: it's not so much about usecases as it is about users.

remark: will turn cult-like easily the more this is understood.

But then again: when it is about users and not even about application so much then i see an even brighter future for altcoins. It remains to be seen who will be the people to buy bitcoin for 2000$ or 5000$ other than the speculators.

We will certainly deal with a bubble within a bubble. This shit will pop later if it doesn't do it already.

The only thing that upholds the price are the believers and hoarders from my perspective. But most of them have no idea who they want to sell to later.

I see a problem with bitcoin not being able to be a good store of value (too high inflation). This could does cause communities of coins with similar emissionrate (and the original btc of course) to slow in growth because people can't hold the coin longterm (they can but it's not wise ... i know, i know everything will be good LATER because everyone believes very hard in it now).

If people can actually not use it to store wealth it'll be just a fad and makes essetially in its current form only little sense.

Summary:
-bitcoin can't hold value right now, is not suitable for saving money into it and hinders with it its own adoption
-what bitcoin needs most is users
-users need to be loyal and believe in it
-> one should take care to not let this become very fast a brainwashing cult if it isn't one already.
-a bubble within a bubble is a possibility and likely reality - once the loyal believers start to unbelieve it pops.

so much for location determination. I just hope it pumps to 1000$+ so i can sell ... get some sheep in here, quick! The last round is bled dry from altcoinscams and bounties to miners already. Need fresh meat.


So, in summary:

Bitcoin is going to $1000!!!

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December 10, 2014, 02:24:57 PM
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bitcoin for $1000 in a year? Just because it is less than that today? Why should someone buy Bitcoin for $345 today, when it was $130 one and a half year ago?
There were always marks, were people said, that is the peak. I am not long enough in the game, but I think, there was one at $1 at $30 at $130 and now at $1000.
What exactly changed?

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December 10, 2014, 02:30:03 PM
Last edit: December 10, 2014, 03:13:27 PM by Menschenfeind
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Why shouldn't someone buy Bitcoin for $1000 in a year? Just because it is less than that today? Why should someone buy Bitcoin for $345 today, when it was $130 one and a half year ago?
There were always marks, were people said, that is the peak. I am not long enough in the game, but I think, there was one at $1 at $30 at $130 and now at $1000.
What exactly changed?

maybe 1000$ is still easily possible, agree. But we will run into serious issues above 10k$ to 20k$ i believe. I'd expect an epic, epic crash around that mark. Like doublecrash (if we do not actually see this right now already)

Why should someone buy btc for 345$ today? That is a good question and i think the answer is: they shouldn't because has good chance to hit 200$-range again. We have always more coins. Each and every day.

What changes from 1$ to 1000$ ?
The audience became bigger. So we are back to the only point we may agree on: it's about users

You porbably do know as good as i do: most who are here now are independant persons who came here because they educated themselves. But the average person does not educate themselves about anything at all. So possibly we hit a ceiling of possible users somewhere and bitcoin will become very depandant on advertising via the current institutions which in part it actually is designed to make obsolete. I do see a contradiction there too. That's a sociologic question now aswell as an existential one for btc.

haha. But even if the media would suddenly be on the side of bitcoin it'll still be very hard to convince the uneducated masses to buy a coin for 5000$ which was 5$ once.  Since media is not even looked at as any type of guide - not even by stupid people these days the whole task may very well be a fail.

I still don't know who's buying btc for 2k$ , 5k$, 10k$



edit: lool topic moved to speculation and no trace or remark of the move on the original place. lmao.
This is actually in the wrong subforum now because i did not want to discuss speculative pricedevelopement but the question "who is buying later for higher prices?" but apparently people are affraid they can't answer it.
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December 10, 2014, 04:01:18 PM
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People buy bitcoin because they think they'll be worth millions some day, but who should be the fool buying for 1000$+?
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Mrs. Ena Spadwick of 24 Frobisher Gardens, Surrey, UK.

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December 10, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
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My feelings tell me that you are/will be one these people @OP Tongue Kiss

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