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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:03:04 PM |
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25% if it was a scam why only 25 and not 100%
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jibble
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December 30, 2014, 07:08:15 PM |
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25% if it was a scam why only 25 and not 100%
Because the price has literally hemorrhaged out of its out asshole from 0.003 to 0.0001 , 95% loss in value from being dumped by someone in under 2 days......they had sold a shit tonne of coins already If it wasn't a scam, who owned that 25% and don't say hackers, they would of needed to have hacked over 7.5 million kh/s out of accounts and sold for profitcoin, and since you can only sell 15% , that means the accounts these hackers hacked owned over 52 million kh/s . The numbers don't add up. For their statements to be true they have to ignore all logic and reason , which doesn't follow reality |
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fryelectro
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December 30, 2014, 07:09:25 PM |
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Guys,
Let's not fight about this, we're all on the same side. Indeed there is a small possibility that HP is no scam after all. But there are so many signs that it is a scam indeed. If it was my company, I would constantly try to prove that we're not scamming our customers. I would communicate to them and not let them come to me and letting them pay to reach me for example.
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Alexalex
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December 30, 2014, 07:22:01 PM |
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Hello, they are scam, me too i don't want to accept, but i must do it, its the reality  they don't have any office in Cyprus, they put a number on the top of their site, i can be in France and having a number in Germany or Tokyo or where i want, just by the VOIP operators. and they didn't even send any mail... fcuk them |
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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:29:35 PM |
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One of the problems is in an attack one of the first things hit is your email spammed,this could have been a way to seperate the junk from the real,no hacker is going to flood you at 3 bucks a time.I know things look as if there gone but then there is lots of points I cant figure out like why are they still mining,why all the changing of IPs on the day they say the attack happened, why was my account hacked at virtually the same time,why were people wanting to bet with me on here that they would fold less than hour before the attack
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alienesb
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December 30, 2014, 07:31:07 PM |
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One of the problems is in an attack one of the first things hit is your email spammed,this could have been a way to seperate the junk from the real,no hacker is going to flood you at 3 bucks a time.I know things look as if there gone but then there is lots of points I cant figure out like why are they still mining,why all the changing of IPs on the day they say the attack happened, why was my account hacked at virtually the same time,why were people wanting to bet with me on here that they would fold less than hour before the attack
Where is your proof they are still mining? Why not provide that info? |
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7dogs
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December 30, 2014, 07:31:19 PM |
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According to PFC announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860525.0 , total number of coins=10.000.000 Premine=20% (would make 2.000.000) so 600.000 would be a less than 1/3 of premining and Coinmaster's calculation seems to be right. Didn't look at the fresh exchange volumes though. |
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December 30, 2014, 07:32:47 PM |
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According to PFC announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860525.0 , total number of coins=10.000.000 Premine=20% (would make 2.000.000) so 600.000 would be a less than 1/3 of premining and Coinmaster's calculation seems to be right. Didn't look at the fresh exchange volumes though. 2 million of that is the dev's premine How was there 600,000 coins in active sell orders on 2 exchanges? answer: dev was dumping coins |
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Sandy79
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December 30, 2014, 07:33:12 PM |
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No-one has any proof whether they are a scam or not. Right now it is all assumptions based on nothing.
Some things don't look good, but others don't make sense either.
One thing I do know for sure is that my account definitely wasn't hacked prior to the site going down.
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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:34:24 PM |
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See here we go newbie one post writing rubbish but if you all want to do that then fine find out things yourself I dont need to listen to shitheads like that with utter rubbish.
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donmoney24
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December 30, 2014, 07:36:04 PM |
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Right now, we can just wait..
HP gives us promiss.. 5th jan...
Just wait..
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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:37:02 PM |
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One of the problems is in an attack one of the first things hit is your email spammed,this could have been a way to seperate the junk from the real,no hacker is going to flood you at 3 bucks a time.I know things look as if there gone but then there is lots of points I cant figure out like why are they still mining,why all the changing of IPs on the day they say the attack happened, why was my account hacked at virtually the same time,why were people wanting to bet with me on here that they would fold less than hour before the attack
Where is your proof they are still mining? Why not provide that info? Go look at there pool must I do friggin everything for you. |
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Alexalex
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December 30, 2014, 07:37:30 PM |
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false hopes, false hopes, false hopes, false hopes, false hopes, false hopes, false hopes, false hopes......
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alienesb
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December 30, 2014, 07:45:05 PM |
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One of the problems is in an attack one of the first things hit is your email spammed,this could have been a way to seperate the junk from the real,no hacker is going to flood you at 3 bucks a time.I know things look as if there gone but then there is lots of points I cant figure out like why are they still mining,why all the changing of IPs on the day they say the attack happened, why was my account hacked at virtually the same time,why were people wanting to bet with me on here that they would fold less than hour before the attack
Where is your proof they are still mining? Why not provide that info? Go look at there pool must I do friggin everything for you. So they have only been mining PFC all this time? Seems like that wouldn't really work out at this point and with the premine why would that be necessary? You don't have to do anything for me it was just a question. Hopefully things work out, either they come back or run away with our BTC - there's no in between. I'd like to say that this will kill cloud mining in the future but there are just too many easy marks out there looking for a quick buck. |
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December 30, 2014, 07:46:33 PM |
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According to PFC announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860525.0 , total number of coins=10.000.000 Premine=20% (would make 2.000.000) so 600.000 would be a less than 1/3 of premining and Coinmaster's calculation seems to be right. Didn't look at the fresh exchange volumes though. 2 million of that is the dev's premine How was there 600,000 coins in active sell orders on 2 exchanges? answer: dev was dumping coins agree that crossed my mind too. its obvious its a scam, how is there more coins than 100k. because dev dumped his premine. i saw 800k on the orders and that is excluding people who has not put up sell orders. from what i see only 385k remain of the premine |
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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:49:11 PM |
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no they have been mining crypto to and pfc and you saw 800K on exchanges at the same time for sale doubt it but as i say you want to come on here and mouth rubbish your now on your own.
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coinmaster222 (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 08:51:58 PM |
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And @shadowman on cex no I am not refunding your money you silly person
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ml73
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December 30, 2014, 09:09:33 PM |
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Like I said before...let us calm down now and wait January 5th.
I hope mine huge 1000khs is still mining in there.
It's a good thing that coinmaster is here and giving some answers.
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broadsword
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December 30, 2014, 09:13:52 PM |
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no they have been mining crypto to and pfc and you saw 800K on exchanges at the same time for sale doubt it but as i say you want to come on here and mouth rubbish your now on your own.
now by you saying that i know its dodgy because that was what it was showing on c-cex the exact amount was around 779k this amount was there when there was a 18btc wall at 10k and 16btc at 9000. once that 16btc got eat the 18btc was being eaten too then it just went crazy where it got dumped to 1000. i know what is saw. those that were around when those walls were can support my claim |
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MineTheCoin
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December 30, 2014, 09:21:15 PM |
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Ok guys something came into my mind for tracking HP.
One of the payment methods they used for selling their HR was Webmoney (wmz)
webmoney is a russian online wallet (like paypal) which needs different levels of identity verification.
If anybody can find their WMID (has purchased using wmz) we can find some information about them, or at least maybe we can contact Webmoney company to freeze their account.
5++ But i dont know much about Webmoney.. We only need to find somebody who has made a purchase using webmoney. It is a common ewallet in russian countries. I am sure the least thing we can have is a phone number because they need to make sms verification for activating their account and making transactions. For removing their account limits they have to provide documents. We need their WMID or Purse number. |
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