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January 11, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
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Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?

I ask this out of curiosity.


I faintly doubt that this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146220

is an alt account of this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136592

and this is why : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.msg10114679#msg10114679



The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ?


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January 11, 2015, 04:10:07 PM
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Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?


It's possible. I've tried to register a new account here using CyberGhost VPN and the account created successfully. No problems at all. Bitcointalk isn't blocking VPN/Proxy/Tor, is it?

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January 11, 2015, 04:29:21 PM
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Last I heard, Bitcointalk was preventing people from registering who were using known Tor exit nodes, but not blocking registered accounts which were accessed through Tor.  (Not quite sure on this, would like to see someone to confirm)

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January 11, 2015, 04:33:44 PM
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Last I heard, Bitcointalk was preventing people from registering who were using known Tor exit nodes, but not blocking registered accounts which were accessed through Tor.  (Not quite sure on this, would like to see someone to confirm)

Nope, its just that the IP addresses from known Tor exit nodes tend to have a lot of "evil points" which require a fee in order to create a new account. This is not related to Tor and any IP can collect these points. Spammers usually use Tor/VPNs to create accounts though. If you know someone that is allready well known here, that person can also vouch for you and contact an admin/mod to add said new account to a whitelist.

Edit: Fee for evil points is usually small. See here[1] for more.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772564.0

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January 11, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
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No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these.

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January 11, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
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Thank you guys for answering the silly question, feel free to discuss on this topic, I'll leave it open for whatever reasons.


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January 11, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
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Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?

Signing up using a VPN service is allowed, and therefore having multiple accounts is also allowed (even from the same IP)

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January 11, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
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Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?
It is news to me that it isn't possible to create an account using a known VPN provider. I would actually think that most people would use a known VPN provider to maintain their privacy.

I have created most of my accounts via PIA which provides hosting for the forum.
If you fairly doubt they are an alt of each other then why are you posting this? LOL If you are trying to imply they are alts of each other then your evidence is flimsily at best. The feedback you left is not supported as you have not shown anything to show that anyone is trying to extort you for any amount of money.

The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ?
It is possible. But I kind of doubt it.
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January 11, 2015, 10:44:39 PM
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Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?
It is news to me that it isn't possible to create an account using a known VPN provider. I would actually think that most people would use a known VPN provider to maintain their privacy.

I have created most of my accounts via PIA which provides hosting for the forum.
If you fairly doubt they are an alt of each other then why are you posting this? LOL If you are trying to imply they are alts of each other then your evidence is flimsily at best. The feedback you left is not supported as you have not shown anything to show that anyone is trying to extort you for any amount of money.

The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ?
It is possible. But I kind of doubt it.

The chances of them being the same person are exceptionally low, in any case that issue is resolved so lets not drag their names here.


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January 11, 2015, 10:53:47 PM
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No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these.

Hmm interesting. I never knew certain types of registration requires a fee. How much is it?

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January 11, 2015, 10:57:54 PM
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No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these.

Hmm interesting. I never knew certain types of registration requires a fee. How much is it?
It depends on how often people sharing your IP address have been banned (and people sharing your subnet have been banned).
When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

Here are some stats:

Evil% new users
053
0-135
1-104.4
10-200.80
20-502.2
50-1001.3
100+2.9

Currently each unit of evil requires a payment of 4023 satoshi. You only need to pay something if you have 1 or more, though.
Tor = 50 units of evil by default, I think.

How are is the units of Evil thing calculated when making someone pay in order to start posting with an account? What criteria is used to make someone have to pay at all?

large amount added to all IPs used
small amount added to IP subnet
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This Evil-ness scheme is really evil -_-


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