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December 12, 2014, 03:46:35 AM
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[2014-11-10 4:46:38 PM] International Rob: [2014-11-09 7:18:01 PM] David Zimbeck: no didnt hear back
[2014-11-09 7:18:07 PM] David Zimbeck: tonight is fine for AMA
[2014-11-09 7:18:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i can do an hour
[2014-11-09 7:22:51 PM] International Rob: yeah but tonight is one day sooner then ecpected
[2014-11-09 7:23:06 PM] International Rob: I want some of my people around to get the buzz going
[2014-11-09 7:23:13 PM] International Rob: can we ren it tomorrow at the same time?
[2014-11-09 7:24:09 PM] David Zimbeck: ok tomorrow is no prob
[2014-11-09 7:24:23 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-09 7:24:29 PM] International Rob: I will get that out thjere now then
[2014-11-09 7:27:30 PM] International Rob: can I call you the project manager?
[2014-11-09 7:27:33 PM] International Rob: is that ok with you?
[2014-11-09 7:28:00 PM] International Rob: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20141110T1930&year=2014&month=11&day=10&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&msg=AMA%20with%20Mr%20David%20Zimbeck
[2014-11-09 8:02:45 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-10 4:47:17 PM] David Zimbeck: why New York time?
[2014-11-10 4:47:25 PM] David Zimbeck: all the Chinese are asleep
[2014-11-10 4:47:51 PM] International Rob: well its gomna be 7 30 am in china when it is 730 here in 2:40 min
[2014-11-10 4:47:58 PM] David Zimbeck: but you just posted that calender because you said it was for the launch of the ICP
[2014-11-10 4:48:01 PM] David Zimbeck: ICO
[2014-11-10 4:48:06 PM] International Rob: noooo
[2014-11-10 4:48:10 PM] International Rob: there isws another one for that
[2014-11-10 4:48:15 PM] International Rob: that one is for the ama
[2014-11-10 4:48:20 PM] David Zimbeck: ok whatever
[2014-11-10 4:48:21 PM] International Rob: look at the title
[2014-11-10 4:48:23 PM] David Zimbeck: 2 hours then
[2014-11-10 4:48:23 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 4:48:26 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-10 4:48:36 PM] International Rob: I'll make sure if flys by
[2014-11-10 4:48:37 PM] David Zimbeck: im not superman you know
[2014-11-10 4:48:43 PM] David Zimbeck: i do sleep sometime
[2014-11-10 4:48:48 PM] International Rob: thedn you can have ur other meeting and then sleep like a baby for a bit
[2014-11-10 4:49:36 PM] David Zimbeck: watch the investor ship me a million bucks
[2014-11-10 4:49:39 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-10 4:49:48 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 4:49:52 PM] International Rob: your not
[2014-11-10 4:49:56 PM] David Zimbeck: that would be nice timing
[2014-11-10 4:49:57 PM] International Rob: someone told me you never sleep
[2014-11-10 4:50:02 PM] International Rob: lollol
[2014-11-10 4:50:04 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont
[2014-11-10 4:50:11 PM] International Rob: I feel ya
[2014-11-10 4:50:14 PM] International Rob: me too sometimes
[2014-11-10 4:50:26 PM] David Zimbeck: my major weakness is my temper
[2014-11-10 4:50:46 PM] International Rob: weed can fix that
[2014-11-10 4:50:47 PM] International Rob: lolol
[2014-11-10 4:50:52 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-10 4:50:53 PM] International Rob: ok ima go eat and walk the dogs
[2014-11-10 4:51:00 PM] International Rob: ima be back in 2 hours and we get this rolling
[2014-11-10 4:51:11 PM] International Rob: is there weed in Cambodia?
[2014-11-10 4:51:18 PM] David Zimbeck: lol its cambodia
[2014-11-10 4:51:25 PM] David Zimbeck: there are not cops here
[2014-11-10 4:51:37 PM] David Zimbeck: how the world should be
[2014-11-10 4:51:45 PM] David Zimbeck: except everyone should speak english
[2014-11-10 4:51:54 PM] David Zimbeck: or spanish
[2014-11-10 4:52:10 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-10 4:52:11 PM] International Rob: I feel ya
[2014-11-10 4:52:13 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-10 4:52:15 PM] International Rob: ima brb
[2014-11-10 4:52:19 PM] International Rob: and we goomnna do this
[2014-11-10 4:52:24 PM] International Rob: then we have the launch tmr
[2014-11-10 4:52:31 PM] International Rob: I am super stoked
[2014-11-10 4:52:35 PM] International Rob: be back in an hourr
[2014-11-10 5:05:09 PM] International Rob: just so you know we have some names that we will be coming out with as other peopk on the team with you
[2014-11-10 5:05:14 PM] International Rob: just waiting for the ico to start
[2014-11-10 5:05:20 PM] International Rob: but elmers names will be ther
[2014-11-10 5:05:25 PM] International Rob: and an alias of gecko as well
[2014-11-10 5:05:30 PM] International Rob: maybe even stecen too
[2014-11-10 5:05:33 PM] International Rob: steven too
[2014-11-10 6:00:44 PM] David Zimbeck: ok thats good to know
[2014-11-10 6:01:06 PM] David Zimbeck: there is a lot of people in the forum who think my reputation is on the line
[2014-11-10 6:01:27 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm basically saying im a software dev
[2014-11-10 6:02:08 PM] David Zimbeck: so its not really my place to say anything other than neutral about Baycoin
[2014-11-10 6:02:26 PM] International Rob: don't worry bro.... we got this..... this coin will be huge bro
[2014-11-10 6:02:30 PM] International Rob: like for real
[2014-11-10 6:02:55 PM] David Zimbeck: so why doesnt Steven wanna say who he is anyways
[2014-11-10 6:03:09 PM] David Zimbeck: just curious, he seems like a really nice guy
[2014-11-10 6:05:29 PM] International Rob: I think he may.. but he had one coin that failed because his dev fucked him,... so he may bot want to
[2014-11-10 6:05:32 PM] International Rob: but don't worry
[2014-11-10 6:05:33 PM] David Zimbeck: i suppose if you have been trading for so long and you wanna break into a coin, it would be wise to keep your identity to yourself
[2014-11-10 6:05:35 PM] International Rob: we will get names
[2014-11-10 6:05:48 PM] International Rob: and for real.. names don't matter when people are buying
[2014-11-10 6:05:53 PM] International Rob: t\all they want is a return
[2014-11-10 6:06:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Well if anyone walks, what happens to me
[2014-11-10 6:06:08 PM] International Rob: the names are to please the trolls who only buy in for like 0.03838
[2014-11-10 6:06:09 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 6:06:23 PM] David Zimbeck: ^
[2014-11-10 6:06:27 PM] International Rob: nothing happens to you
[2014-11-10 6:06:36 PM] David Zimbeck: I mean i can survive FUD im a tought mother fucker
[2014-11-10 6:06:37 PM] International Rob: why would something happen to you
[2014-11-10 6:06:52 PM] International Rob: lol you are indeed
[2014-11-10 6:06:56 PM] International Rob: (flex)
[2014-11-10 6:06:59 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-10 6:07:30 PM] David Zimbeck: oh nevermind
[2014-11-10 6:07:39 PM] David Zimbeck: fuck it
[2014-11-10 6:09:09 PM] International Rob: Hey bud.. can you get the reddit thread ion the cryptocurrency section ready for the bitbay/halo AMA
[2014-11-10 6:09:13 PM] International Rob: and give me the link
[2014-11-10 6:09:26 PM] International Rob: tell them start time is 1.5 hours from now
[2014-11-10 6:09:32 PM] International Rob: I wil get some people ready and waiting
[2014-11-10 6:13:15 PM] International Rob: letr me answer that last post please
[2014-11-10 6:14:08 PM] David Zimbeck: i prefer IRC
[2014-11-10 6:22:18 PM] International Rob: actually... I think reddit would be better as it can be posted easy styles and is easier to keep track of
[2014-11-10 6:22:21 PM] International Rob: don't you think?
[2014-11-10 6:42:05 PM] David Zimbeck: ugh... ok
[2014-11-10 6:44:14 PM] International Rob: thanks
[2014-11-10 6:44:24 PM] International Rob: now I gotta deal with some dude on the thread causing trouble
[2014-11-10 6:58:31 PM] International Rob: hey bud you got a link for me
[2014-11-10 6:58:37 PM] International Rob: ama is in 30 minutes
[2014-11-10 7:01:55 PM] International Rob: ??
[2014-11-10 7:14:47 PM] International Rob: 15 minutes bro
[2014-11-10 7:14:50 PM] International Rob: you got that link yet?
[2014-11-10 7:15:02 PM] International Rob: I wanna have the official account tweet it
[2014-11-10 7:15:07 PM] International Rob: and the forum ccount post it
[2014-11-10 7:24:04 PM] David Zimbeck: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitBay/
[2014-11-10 7:24:17 PM] David Zimbeck: you really dont know how to use computers do you?
[2014-11-10 7:24:18 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-10 7:25:30 PM] International Rob: lol why?
[2014-11-10 7:25:52 PM] International Rob: ok posting the links now
[2014-11-10 7:27:23 PM] International Rob: https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptocurrency
[2014-11-10 7:27:29 PM] International Rob: can you put it there so people see it
[2014-11-10 7:27:38 PM] International Rob: there are no people in the bitbay reddit yet
[2014-11-10 7:27:58 PM] International Rob: helllllo
[2014-11-10 7:27:59 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-10 7:29:26 PM] International Rob: ??
[2014-11-10 7:32:32 PM] International Rob: fuck it ima tweet that link
[2014-11-10 7:33:49 PM] International Rob: also can you add a message to the ama
[2014-11-10 7:33:52 PM] International Rob: in the top
[2014-11-10 7:34:00 PM] International Rob: maybe who you are and why your heare
[2014-11-10 7:34:01 PM] International Rob: thsanks
[2014-11-10 7:41:08 PM] International Rob: ok ama is live
[2014-11-10 7:41:13 PM] International Rob: if you have any questions just ask
[2014-11-10 7:44:23 PM] David Zimbeck: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitBay/
[2014-11-10 7:44:31 PM] David Zimbeck: there is a BitBay reddit isnt there?
[2014-11-10 7:44:44 PM] International Rob: that's cool
[2014-11-10 7:44:47 PM] International Rob: we can do it there
[2014-11-10 7:44:52 PM] International Rob: its already going
[2014-11-10 7:44:52 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 9:38:58 PM] International Rob: [–]tilecoin 1 point 7 minutes ago*
Hi all, This is the lead dev from TileCoin/TilePay. I wish the best for all of us. Have you considered a Light Wallet architecture for the IoT aspect of the implementation? How will this be possible with a POS architecture? Will you use a framework such as kivy.org/? If you are licensing the tech, then it is not a decentralized open source implementation?
Regards, ASIC-8Tile
[2014-11-10 9:43:55 PM] David Zimbeck: lol mockery is the sincerest form of flattery
[2014-11-10 9:46:43 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-10 9:46:50 PM] International Rob: I don't like those guys
[2014-11-10 9:54:24 PM] David Zimbeck: what is Tilecoin?
[2014-11-10 9:54:25 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-10 10:08:20 PM] International Rob: I dunno some shitty coin
[2014-11-10 10:08:28 PM] International Rob: i don't know much about because its that shity i assume
[2014-11-11 3:16:23 AM] International Rob: Morning david
[2014-11-11 3:16:25 AM] International Rob: you around?
[2014-11-11 8:00:01 AM] David Zimbeck: yes
[2014-11-11 8:01:42 PM] International Rob: hey bud
[2014-11-11 8:01:54 PM] International Rob: there are some tech questions on the thread last page
[2014-11-11 8:01:59 PM] International Rob: can you answer them please
[2014-11-11 8:02:01 PM] International Rob: thanks
[2014-11-11 8:18:08 PM] David Zimbeck: already did
[2014-11-11 8:18:58 PM] David Zimbeck: also refrain from saying its confidential how much coins we keep... have them ammend that statement to say that unused coins get burned but we will buy some baycoins for ourselves to keep it fair
[2014-11-11 8:19:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i already responded but this needs to get confirmed
[2014-11-13 1:38:15 AM] International Rob: Hey dave
[2014-11-13 1:38:29 AM] International Rob: Just wondering if you could reach out to this guy via pm
[2014-11-13 1:38:30 AM] International Rob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.msg9528446#msg9528446
[2014-11-13 1:39:35 AM] International Rob: and let him know that we feel his car trouble pain and we would like him to not miss out on the ico... so were gonna make him a small donation of free bitbay coin as soon as the market open... it wont be much but it will be something and we appreciate him stopping by our thread and showing his support
[2014-11-13 1:40:15 AM] International Rob: please send the message private though.. we don't want the whole community knowing that we are giving away free coins
[2014-11-13 1:40:18 AM] International Rob: thanks bud
[2014-11-13 1:41:04 AM] David Zimbeck: can you do it?
[2014-11-13 1:41:18 AM] David Zimbeck: I'm getting too busy man
[2014-11-13 1:41:32 AM] International Rob: its just that he seems to be a fan of your work and ideas
[2014-11-13 1:41:47 AM] International Rob: I figured if you reached out it would mean more then the bitbay team account
[2014-11-13 1:41:54 AM] International Rob: if you don't wanna though I can on that account
[2014-11-13 1:41:59 AM] International Rob: just thought maybe it would make sense
[2014-11-13 1:42:10 AM] David Zimbeck: no let them team reach out
[2014-11-13 1:42:20 AM] David Zimbeck: people need to hear more from that account anyways
[2014-11-13 1:42:49 AM] International Rob: no its via pm anyway
[2014-11-13 1:42:52 AM] International Rob: but I understand
[2014-11-13 1:42:58 AM] International Rob: no worries I will get it taken care of
[2014-11-23 12:37:21 PM] David Zimbeck: dude im going to ask kindly that you do not dangle what i got paid over my head again
[2014-11-23 12:37:24 PM] David Zimbeck: thanks
[2014-11-23 12:37:41 PM] David Zimbeck: its embarassing to me
[2014-11-23 12:38:01 PM] David Zimbeck: most nobody trusts the people im working with
[2014-11-23 12:38:23 PM] *** Call to David Zimbeck, duration 21:30. ***
[2014-11-23 6:34:44 PM] International Rob: hey you around?
[2014-11-23 9:45:27 PM] David Zimbeck: yessir
[2014-11-23 9:45:39 PM] David Zimbeck: just started to work
[2014-11-23 9:45:44 PM] David Zimbeck: a bit late waking up today
[2014-11-24 12:47:31 PM] International Rob: lol no worries still around?
[2014-11-24 12:47:41 PM] David Zimbeck: yea
[2014-11-24 12:47:48 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-24 12:47:50 PM] International Rob: I just woke up
[2014-11-24 12:48:02 PM] International Rob: let me roll up some breakfast 420 and lets chat
[2014-11-24 12:48:08 PM] International Rob: give me 15 minutes
[2014-11-24 12:48:11 PM] David Zimbeck: did you see the group chat?
[2014-11-24 12:59:06 PM] International Rob: there is a lot thwere
[2014-11-24 12:59:20 PM] International Rob: do you have the crib notes
[2014-11-24 1:45:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im bout to sleep
[2014-11-24 1:45:38 PM] David Zimbeck: was there anything you wanted to talk about before i sleep?
[2014-11-24 1:47:20 PM] International Rob: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11qtsGJM3moeCr0-rKQcF1L_vYNfJsxmWrH_6ntMMdxI/edit?pli=1#heading=h.qdcr4uqhicjb
[2014-11-24 1:47:30 PM] International Rob: yeah bro
[2014-11-24 1:47:40 PM] International Rob: gimmiw the cliff notes on what I missed
[2014-11-24 1:47:42 PM] International Rob: please
[2014-11-24 1:47:50 PM | Edited 1:47:51 PM] International Rob: where do we stand with the dev fund?
[2014-11-24 1:47:54 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko wanted money from everyone
[2014-11-24 1:48:02 PM] David Zimbeck: because he said he pulled out of pocket
[2014-11-24 1:48:12 PM] David Zimbeck: so I looked at his notes
[2014-11-24 1:48:17 PM] David Zimbeck: he wanted 50 BTC
[2014-11-24 1:48:28 PM] David Zimbeck: so i said no
[2014-11-24 1:48:36 PM] David Zimbeck: because nobody agreed to this in advance
[2014-11-24 1:48:40 PM] David Zimbeck: and its half the dev fund
[2014-11-24 1:48:51 PM] David Zimbeck: and he telling me to pay 10 BTC of it
[2014-11-24 1:48:56 PM] International Rob: well we agreed that the funds would be3 uses as we needed them
[2014-11-24 1:49:37 PM] David Zimbeck: im not going to discuss money anymore
[2014-11-24 1:50:08 PM] David Zimbeck: i think its best to talk to steven gekko linn when everyones together
[2014-11-24 1:50:30 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont see how he is owed 50 btc... some of the expenses seemed steep
[2014-11-24 1:50:33 PM] David Zimbeck: regardless
[2014-11-24 1:50:37 PM] David Zimbeck: lets say it is true
[2014-11-24 1:50:47 PM] David Zimbeck: and he pulled a bunch out of pocket
[2014-11-24 1:50:49 PM] David Zimbeck: ok cool
[2014-11-24 1:51:14 PM] David Zimbeck: so i said no since im the main dev and thats what i was told i was being paid for
[2014-11-24 1:51:24 PM] David Zimbeck: we had a dev fund 100 BTC for this stuff
[2014-11-24 1:51:29 PM] David Zimbeck: we all put 20 into it
[2014-11-24 1:51:40 PM] David Zimbeck: nowhere did it say im pulling from my 170 btc
[2014-11-24 1:51:46 PM] International Rob: lol so your 170 btc covers just you.. and the rest of the team pays outa pocket for everything else
[2014-11-24 1:51:49 PM] International Rob: except you
[2014-11-24 1:52:00 PM] International Rob: bro its not gonna work likt that im just telling you that now
[2014-11-24 1:52:12 PM] David Zimbeck: the original offer was for 100 BTC license
[2014-11-24 1:52:19 PM] David Zimbeck: and a % of the coin
[2014-11-24 1:52:32 PM] International Rob: you know that this whole project hindges upon marketing.... if it was just based off your name and skill then blackcoin would be a top ten coin and not in the shitter
[2014-11-24 1:52:35 PM] David Zimbeck: that was always my minimum
[2014-11-24 1:52:35 PM] International Rob: anfd you know this
[2014-11-24 1:52:46 PM] David Zimbeck: no it doesnt
[2014-11-24 1:52:47 PM] International Rob: I'll take your advise and talk to steven and lin regarding this
[2014-11-24 1:52:50 PM] David Zimbeck: im pegging the coin
[2014-11-24 1:52:54 PM] International Rob: sleep tight and we''ll catch up tmr
[2014-11-24 1:52:56 PM] David Zimbeck: steven agrees with me actually
[2014-11-24 1:52:59 PM] International Rob: sorry for being a bit late today
[2014-11-24 1:53:08 PM] International Rob: still getting used to being back from vacation
[2014-11-24 1:53:13 PM] David Zimbeck: steven agrees with me talked to him many times on it
[2014-11-24 1:53:18 PM] David Zimbeck: he is the one who hired me
[2014-11-24 1:53:24 PM] David Zimbeck: he said i dont have to pay
[2014-11-24 1:53:38 PM] David Zimbeck: regardless
[2014-11-24 1:53:42 PM] David Zimbeck: i can pay Gekko
[2014-11-24 1:54:04 PM] David Zimbeck: but the part that bothered me the most was the simple fact that Gekko threatens to pull support
[2014-11-24 1:54:22 PM] David Zimbeck: and threatens to put negative news on Bitcointalk
[2014-11-24 1:54:27 PM] David Zimbeck: and is passive aggressive
[2014-11-24 1:54:30 PM] International Rob: well were not gonnay be paing out of pocket for this all kinds
[2014-11-24 1:54:33 PM] David Zimbeck: saying "think wisely"
[2014-11-24 1:54:38 PM] David Zimbeck: "brace yourself"
[2014-11-24 1:54:41 PM] David Zimbeck: bla bla bla
[2014-11-24 1:54:43 PM] David Zimbeck: threats
[2014-11-24 1:54:45 PM] International Rob: we started with 170 btc each and gecko and are and not even close to that anymnore
[2014-11-24 1:54:50 PM] David Zimbeck: this early in totally unprofessional
[2014-11-24 1:55:00 PM] International Rob: mean time you and steven and lin are sttting on all of it
[2014-11-24 1:55:08 PM] David Zimbeck: not true
[2014-11-24 1:55:14 PM] International Rob: not incurring any costs and trying to hold the dev fund as your own little bank account
[2014-11-24 1:55:23 PM] David Zimbeck: and my role is very very different
[2014-11-24 1:55:37 PM] David Zimbeck: my license was 100 btc minimum
[2014-11-24 1:55:54 PM] David Zimbeck: im not going to rediscuss the issue
[2014-11-24 1:56:00 PM] David Zimbeck: talked to Steven already
[2014-11-24 1:56:10 PM] David Zimbeck: im willing to chip in for Gekko
[2014-11-24 1:56:18 PM] David Zimbeck: already told him
[2014-11-24 1:56:32 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven wants to handle the talking in the morning
[2014-11-24 1:56:58 PM] David Zimbeck: but as a partner it doesnt make sense to have me pay for dev work
[2014-11-24 1:57:19 PM] David Zimbeck: im not even charging for my time from the dev funds
[2014-11-24 1:57:31 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven wants this to be a year long project
[2014-11-24 1:57:46 PM] David Zimbeck: if you think tech doesnt matter then you are not thinking of the long term
[2014-11-24 1:57:54 PM] David Zimbeck: and you are not understanding how pegging works
[2014-11-24 1:58:08 PM] David Zimbeck: i can show you a video where i explain it in depth
[2014-11-24 1:59:02 PM] International Rob: anyway... like I said
[2014-11-24 1:59:08 PM] International Rob: lets have steven take care of this
[2014-11-24 1:59:14 PM] *** Call from David Zimbeck, duration 23:53. ***
[2014-11-24 2:26:40 PM] David Zimbeck: hey i gotta sleep soon wanted to finish the convo
[2014-11-24 2:27:24 PM] *** Call from David Zimbeck, duration 00:16. ***
Call to David Zimbeck, no answer.
[2014-11-24 2:39:45 PM] International Rob: yoooo
[2014-11-24 2:39:46 PM] International Rob: oyoyoyoyo
[2014-11-24 2:39:47 PM] International Rob: oyoy
[2014-11-24 2:39:47 PM] International Rob: yo
[2014-11-24 2:39:47 PM] International Rob: oy
[2014-11-24 2:39:47 PM] International Rob: oyoy
[2014-11-24 2:39:55 PM] International Rob: im calling you but ur on do not disturb
[2014-11-24 2:39:58 PM] International Rob: so ur not hearing it
[2014-11-24 2:40:02 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-24 2:41:21 PM] *** Call from David Zimbeck, duration 39:55. ***
[2014-11-25 10:50:29 PM] David Zimbeck: im sorry when we spoke my mind was not on bitbay when you kept asking about it i didnt understand because i thought we all had equal shares
[2014-11-25 10:51:24 PM] David Zimbeck: aparrently you received 500 btc from the ico i thought steven did those calculations
[2014-11-25 10:53:31 PM] David Zimbeck: so stevens OP weeks ago he clearly stated .11 billion
[2014-11-25 10:53:38 PM] David Zimbeck: and i thought you knew that
[2014-11-25 10:55:23 PM] David Zimbeck: so when you kept asking me i wasnt thinking about your stake i didnt think you were being honest with me. So I just said "same as you"
[2014-11-25 10:56:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i really thought you and gekko were trying to shake me down for money because you kept asking me and when i asked to wait for steven you said you wanted to sort it out with me and not him
[2014-11-25 10:56:46 PM] International Rob: lmao
[2014-11-25 10:56:51 PM] International Rob: were the ones being shaken down
[2014-11-25 10:57:02 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so didnt you get 500 btc?
[2014-11-25 10:57:15 PM] International Rob: those were our 500 btc we put in.... hell yeah we get them back... if you would have put 333 btc in you could have got thoses back too
[2014-11-25 10:57:45 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but steven got his back in Bay correct?
[2014-11-25 10:57:45 PM] International Rob: but you don't get that free stake and laugh in our faces.. I said many timnes 19M coins..... 50 btc worth.... you know full well you had way more then that
[2014-11-25 10:57:47 PM] International Rob: pure lies
[2014-11-25 10:57:56 PM] David Zimbeck: yes i did
[2014-11-25 10:58:23 PM] David Zimbeck: i didnt think you were being honest and i didnt want to discuss it at the moment
[2014-11-25 10:58:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i never told you how much i had i avoided the subject entirely
[2014-11-25 10:59:16 PM] David Zimbeck: the subject was the dev fund that you guys wanted 50% of
[2014-11-25 10:59:55 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven stated before the ICO and during that i would receive that amount
[2014-11-25 11:00:12 PM] David Zimbeck: you can read back in the thread of the OP if you want
[2014-11-25 11:06:42 PM] David Zimbeck: look we should sort out our differences, you and Steven sort out whatever issues you have
[2014-11-25 11:07:03 PM] International Rob: sure
[2014-11-25 11:07:07 PM] International Rob: he pays up and all is good
[2014-11-25 11:07:11 PM] International Rob: ist that simple
[2014-11-25 11:07:12 PM] David Zimbeck: i have had some trust issues and if you want to lay them to rest we should talk
[2014-11-25 11:07:22 PM] International Rob: you had trust issues
[2014-11-25 11:07:23 PM] International Rob: lmao
[2014-11-25 11:07:28 PM] International Rob: that's a funny one bro
[2014-11-25 11:08:07 PM] David Zimbeck: steven said i got .11 billion 3 weeks ago
[2014-11-25 11:08:12 PM] David Zimbeck: multiple times
[2014-11-25 11:08:21 PM] David Zimbeck: you never read it
[2014-11-25 11:09:23 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont want to argue or fight with you i would rather discuss the issue at hand when you get a moment
[2014-11-25 11:10:38 PM] David Zimbeck: quite frankly, i care more about having a solid friendship with you than any of this nonsense
[2014-11-25 11:11:23 PM] David Zimbeck: but in order to do so, we need to resolve our differences
[2014-11-25 11:12:26 PM] David Zimbeck: im sorry i didnt want to discuss bay when we spoke
[2014-11-25 11:12:40 PM] International Rob: because you knew you had more then I had
[2014-11-25 11:12:47 PM] International Rob: ur pure lies when it came to that
[2014-11-25 11:12:54 PM] David Zimbeck: yes
[2014-11-25 11:12:58 PM] David Zimbeck: im sorry
[2014-11-25 11:13:13 PM] David Zimbeck: but i thought you had recieved 500 btc
[2014-11-25 11:13:20 PM] David Zimbeck: and i didnt believe you had 18 million
[2014-11-25 11:13:42 PM] David Zimbeck: because Steven said we all got .11 billion
[2014-11-25 11:13:47 PM] David Zimbeck: and he said it like 5 times
[2014-11-25 11:14:30 PM] David Zimbeck: so i really was concerned that i was being shaken down so i didnt want to discuss it
[2014-11-25 11:15:05 PM] David Zimbeck: i thought you were only concerned about money and that tech and developement didnt seem to be a concern of yours
[2014-11-25 11:15:28 PM] David Zimbeck: im not the one who handled finances, Steven was
[2014-11-25 11:15:37 PM] David Zimbeck: and he said many times about how much Bay I had
[2014-11-25 11:15:38 PM] International Rob: yeah well he fucked us
[2014-11-25 11:15:43 PM] International Rob: and you helped him kinda hide it
[2014-11-25 11:15:47 PM] International Rob: hide it out in the open
[2014-11-25 11:15:48 PM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-11-25 11:15:56 PM] International Rob: I caught it as soon AS I GOT BACK AND SETTELED IN
[2014-11-25 11:16:03 PM] David Zimbeck: he said i got .11 billion
[2014-11-25 11:16:05 PM] International Rob: now i want my btc or we be out
[2014-11-25 11:16:08 PM] International Rob: its that simple
[2014-11-25 11:16:08 PM] David Zimbeck: you never read it
[2014-11-25 11:16:19 PM] David Zimbeck: ok thats something that will get resolved
[2014-11-25 11:16:30 PM] David Zimbeck: but go back in the bitbay dream thread
[2014-11-25 11:16:38 PM] David Zimbeck: you will see he CLEARLY stated my cut
[2014-11-25 11:18:35 PM] David Zimbeck: im not sure how you can not read what he said about the stakes he said it many many times i was getting 10% of bay
[2014-11-25 11:18:55 PM] International Rob: bro i just got back from vacation.. i had no clue
[2014-11-25 11:19:02 PM] David Zimbeck: you didnt read the posts
[2014-11-25 11:19:02 PM] International Rob: i onluy realy saw that today for the first time
[2014-11-25 11:19:08 PM] International Rob: and still its not fair
[2014-11-25 11:19:12 PM] David Zimbeck: so i thought you were lying to me
[2014-11-25 11:19:14 PM] David Zimbeck: im sorry
[2014-11-25 11:19:16 PM] David Zimbeck: very sorry
[2014-11-25 11:19:20 PM] International Rob: i dotn lie bro
[2014-11-25 11:19:26 PM] International Rob: when the fuck ypou gonna realize this
[2014-11-25 11:19:29 PM] International Rob: im all about business
[2014-11-25 11:19:29 PM] David Zimbeck: please forgive me for not discussing bay
[2014-11-25 11:19:32 PM] International Rob: business and nu,ber
[2014-11-25 11:19:34 PM] International Rob: and numbers don't lie
[2014-11-25 11:19:59 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven said it a bunch of times in the thread man
[2014-11-25 11:20:10 PM] David Zimbeck: he said him and lin get .11
[2014-11-25 11:20:12 PM] David Zimbeck: and i get .11
[2014-11-25 11:20:18 PM] David Zimbeck: and you and gekko get .22
[2014-11-25 11:20:51 PM] David Zimbeck: this was posted on the 15th or 14th when the ICO ended and funds got divided
[2014-11-25 11:20:57 PM] David Zimbeck: and i believe posted a few times before
[2014-11-25 11:21:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont handle finanaces, thats your guys territory
[2014-11-25 11:21:34 PM] David Zimbeck: i will even send you the original logs in Skype to prove to you it was all stated in advance
[2014-11-25 11:21:49 PM] David Zimbeck: so when you asked me about it my trust level for you was very low.
[2014-11-25 11:21:57 PM] David Zimbeck: Mostly, because all you talk about it money
[2014-11-25 11:22:46 PM] David Zimbeck: you never took any interest in developement or tech... you didnt make me feel like you were interested in the long term prospects of it
[2014-11-25 11:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: and the whole thing when you told me to "agree" to give 50% of the dev fund wihtout Steven present to decide on it
[2014-11-25 11:23:30 PM] David Zimbeck: it made me feel like you were singling me out to shake me down for money
[2014-11-25 11:23:54 PM] David Zimbeck: i said "Lets wait for Steven" and you told me no and said "I want to hear it from you"
[2014-11-25 11:24:18 PM] David Zimbeck: it made me think that you didnt care about a dev fund and you only wanted the extra btc.
[2014-11-25 11:25:40 PM] David Zimbeck: But seriously, you should have read what Steven posted 5 times. I know you were on a flight, but this is no reason to not read his posts. He never lied to you. Everybody knew i had 10% of bay and if they didnt, they didnt read anything steven was saying
[2014-11-25 11:27:29 PM] David Zimbeck: so im sorry i dont trust you. It was my first impression that you were all about money and not about tech or making the world better.
[2014-11-25 11:29:41 PM] David Zimbeck: it was stately clearly what i received, i thought you knew and really was concerned about the convos we had. However, when you get a moment lets talk over the phone.
[2014-11-25 11:34:54 PM] David Zimbeck: tell me when you get a chance to talk
[2014-11-26 2:56:22 AM] David Zimbeck: OK on the 17th right in your face this was posted
[2014-11-26 2:56:29 AM] David Zimbeck: and you read it
[2014-11-26 2:56:34 AM] David Zimbeck: and you knew what everyone had
[2014-11-26 2:56:40 AM] David Zimbeck: and here is a screenshot
[2014-11-26 2:57:35 AM] David Zimbeck: https://www.sendspace.com/file/tihveq
[2014-11-26 2:58:11 AM] David Zimbeck: Gekko immediately responded ok and you responded in the morning. So my amount was disclosed publically.
[2014-11-27 10:43:08 PM] David Zimbeck: Bob will you please explain what is going on?
[2014-11-27 10:48:27 PM] International Rob: dunno
[2014-11-27 10:48:29 PM] International Rob: ask steven'
[2014-11-27 10:48:51 PM] David Zimbeck: no i really want to talk to you
[2014-11-27 10:49:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im trying to understand
[2014-11-27 10:50:12 PM] David Zimbeck: yo im talking to you
[2014-11-27 10:51:55 PM] David Zimbeck: the story i get from steven is not consistent with yours
[2014-11-27 10:52:04 PM] David Zimbeck: so stop ignoring me and talk like a man
[2014-11-27 10:52:35 PM] International Rob: im busy bri
[2014-11-27 10:52:38 PM] International Rob: bro
[2014-11-27 10:52:41 PM] International Rob: im moving in 2 days
[2014-11-27 10:52:50 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[2014-11-27 10:52:54 PM] International Rob: ima be mia for a bit
[2014-11-27 10:52:57 PM] International Rob: talk to steven
[2014-11-27 10:52:58 PM] David Zimbeck: thats no reason to ignore me at this moment
[2014-11-27 10:53:04 PM] International Rob: yes
[2014-11-27 10:53:07 PM] International Rob: im busy packing
[2014-11-27 10:53:09 PM] International Rob: thats reason
[2014-11-27 10:53:17 PM] David Zimbeck: ok fine but we will talk later?
[2014-11-27 10:53:27 PM] International Rob: tomorrow
[2014-11-27 10:53:28 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[2014-11-27 10:53:30 PM] International Rob: not toinght
[2014-11-27 10:53:32 PM] International Rob: later
[2014-11-27 10:53:33 PM] David Zimbeck: no problem
[2014-11-27 10:53:36 PM] David Zimbeck: thats fine
[2014-11-27 10:53:42 PM] International Rob: ok coolk
[2014-11-27 10:53:45 PM] David Zimbeck: thanks
[2014-11-27 10:53:46 PM] International Rob: laterz
[2014-12-04 8:52:56 PM] International Rob: yoyoyoyoo
[2014-12-04 8:52:58 PM] International Rob: david
[2014-12-04 8:53:02 PM] International Rob: how was ur bday man?
[2014-12-04 8:58:20 PM] International Rob: hey bro
[2014-12-04 8:58:31 PM] International Rob: please hit me up before you release the new wallet
[2014-12-04 8:58:35 PM] International Rob: were gonna set up a pump
[2014-12-04 8:58:42 PM] International Rob: so we all need to be working on the same timetable
[2014-12-04 11:45:13 PM] International Rob: heyaaaa
[2014-12-04 11:45:16 PM] International Rob: you around yet?
[12:38:47 AM] David Zimbeck: hey Rob saw your message. I'm doing a build which should be avail today or tomorrow
[12:39:42 AM] David Zimbeck: I'm here meeting Steven in Thailand so its possible we may not find a convenient time
[12:44:02 AM] International Rob: I though he was back in china?
[12:44:17 AM] International Rob: hes in in Cambodia now?
[12:44:26 AM] David Zimbeck: no Thailand
[12:44:33 AM] International Rob: dammm
[12:44:34 AM] David Zimbeck: he wanted to meet me
[12:44:37 AM] International Rob: you guys getting around
[12:44:42 AM] David Zimbeck: not really
[12:44:59 AM] International Rob: ok well we should all have a meeting to go over the plans for the next few days
[12:45:24 AM] David Zimbeck: i thought Gekko wanted to do a release today or tomorrown
[12:45:49 AM] International Rob: also we need to discuss ur attitude on the fourms and ur attitude with us.... on one hand you got "paid" (the forums and to the public) for ur tech.... and with us ur a partner... you cant have it bith ways
[12:46:05 AM] International Rob: and the funds raised via the cie are not to help blackcoin
[12:46:11 AM] International Rob: they are for bitbay
[12:46:23 AM] International Rob: well yes we want a release soon
[12:46:37 AM] International Rob: but it has to be timed right and we need something good to tease as well for whats to come
[12:46:44 AM] International Rob: we really need to sit down and talk though
[12:46:59 AM] International Rob: you cant be backpeddleing me and making money hand over fist while playing both sides
[12:47:03 AM] International Rob: I don't get down like that
[12:47:07 AM] International Rob: if you know whjat I mean
[12:47:49 AM] David Zimbeck: we will not discuss my attitude
[12:47:56 AM] David Zimbeck: you are anon im not
[12:48:14 AM] David Zimbeck: you are lucky i work so hard to protect all of you
[12:48:45 AM] International Rob: bro ur lucky I don't smach ur rep to pieces this instant... are you joking me... bro.. who do you think I am??? You think I get pushed around by guys like you??
[12:48:48 AM] International Rob: for real???
[12:49:02 AM] International Rob: like are tyou that ignornant/
[12:49:09 AM] David Zimbeck: why are you so rude?
[12:49:25 AM] *** Call from David Zimbeck ***
[12:49:28 AM] International Rob: bro
[12:49:29 AM] International Rob: im pissed
[12:49:37 AM] International Rob: I ncant voice chat my girl is sleeping
[12:49:42 AM] International Rob: but we can chat here all you wish
[12:49:42 AM] David Zimbeck: you shouldnt be in business if you get angry so easy
[12:50:45 AM] International Rob: all im saying is that ur playing both sides and its time to pick one.. you wanna "licence" ur tech to bitbay, find.. send us back 350M bay and 70btc... keep the 100 like we discussed.... and you go on ur way.. or ur a partner.. you keep the coins and you start acting and talking like a partner
[12:51:43 AM] International Rob: enough is enough bro,... we been talking about this for weeks.. now I come back and see more of ypu talking about the money helping blackcoin, and you just licencing to bitbay
[12:51:50 AM] International Rob: cant have it both ways
[12:52:20 AM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12:52:31 AM] David Zimbeck: you are still trying to get more btc?
[12:52:51 AM] David Zimbeck: dont give me ultimatums
[12:53:27 AM] David Zimbeck: im never speaking about money with you
[12:53:28 AM] David Zimbeck: ever
[12:53:49 AM] David Zimbeck: we can talk business, pushing the coin
[12:53:53 AM] David Zimbeck: we can talk progress
[12:53:54 AM] David Zimbeck: whatever
[12:54:11 AM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12:54:13 AM] David Zimbeck: you wanna be a partner? make your name public
[12:54:15 AM] International Rob: ur a joke....
[12:54:16 AM] International Rob: big time
[12:54:18 AM] David Zimbeck: or i will do it for you
[12:54:19 AM] International Rob: you cant code for shit
[12:54:23 AM] International Rob: even steven knows it
[12:54:30 AM] David Zimbeck: i cant? lol
[12:54:33 AM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12:54:34 AM] International Rob: you cant
[12:54:35 AM] David Zimbeck: i coded Halo alone
[12:54:56 AM] International Rob: good for you.. you may be a one hit wonder but ur not gonna play me on this coin bro
[12:55:02 AM] International Rob: you understand that right
[12:55:02 AM] International Rob: ?
[12:55:07 AM] David Zimbeck: im not playing you
[12:55:08 AM] David Zimbeck: im just coding
[12:55:16 AM] David Zimbeck: i dont care about you
[12:55:32 AM] International Rob: ok bro
[12:55:38 AM] International Rob: enjoy ur coin dude
[12:55:40 AM] International Rob: laterz
[12:55:59 AM] David Zimbeck: its unfortunate you arent mature enough to be civil
[12:56:50 AM] International Rob: lol I been civil with you 1000 times
[12:56:55 AM] International Rob: civil does not work
[12:56:59 AM] International Rob: its ok though
[12:57:05 AM] International Rob: you think ur a big man bro
[12:57:12 AM] International Rob: i'll show you how big of a man you really are
[12:57:15 AM] David Zimbeck: the reason i said we would help BC is so they wouldnt tear you a new asshole
[12:57:24 AM] International Rob: fuck blackcoin
[12:57:24 AM] David Zimbeck: stop the threats
[12:57:29 AM] David Zimbeck: its unbecoming
[12:57:36 AM] International Rob: bitbay is the number one  here
[12:57:40 AM] David Zimbeck: ok
[12:57:40 AM] International Rob: brooooo
[12:57:41 AM] David Zimbeck: fine
[12:57:45 AM] David Zimbeck: so it is
[12:57:48 AM] International Rob: its not a threat
[12:57:55 AM] International Rob: ur a scummy little man
[12:57:56 AM] David Zimbeck: but im the only one dealing with fud
[12:58:00 AM] International Rob: and you'll be getting yours
[12:58:01 AM] David Zimbeck: ecuse me?
[12:58:06 AM] David Zimbeck: i dont need to hear this
[12:58:07 AM] International Rob: yeah bro\
[12:58:12 AM] David Zimbeck: i did nothing to you
[12:58:12 AM] International Rob: a pure str8 up liar
[12:58:17 AM] International Rob: who lies for his own good
[12:58:18 AM] David Zimbeck: how?
[12:58:22 AM] International Rob: not even the good of the coin
[12:58:27 AM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12:58:42 AM] David Zimbeck: you are a greedy manipulative pog
[12:58:43 AM] David Zimbeck: pig
[12:58:47 AM] David Zimbeck: but who is judging
[12:58:49 AM] International Rob: bro u lied about the coins, one minute ur a partner, next minute ur back peddling
[12:59:02 AM] David Zimbeck: i showed you a screenshot
[12:59:06 AM] David Zimbeck: of what you agreed to
[12:59:11 AM] David Zimbeck: and Gekko said "OK"
[12:59:23 AM] International Rob: bro... judge me all you want... you been working on halo for a year... made 0 money and then I come along and you make 100+K in a week
[12:59:24 AM] International Rob: lmao
[12:59:24 AM] David Zimbeck: you knew what everyone got
[12:59:33 AM] David Zimbeck: I could have made more
[12:59:39 AM] David Zimbeck: im in negotiations with Ken Miyoshi
[12:59:48 AM] International Rob: david, its ok bro... im done with you.. have a nice life and good luck bro......
[1:00:05 AM] David Zimbeck: you shot this converstation in the foot from hello
[1:01:15 AM] David Zimbeck: If you want me to have my name plastered all over this
[1:01:19 AM] David Zimbeck: while you remain anon
[1:01:33 AM] David Zimbeck: then dont tell me how to handle those threads
David Zimbeck




[2014-11-03 3:07:56 AM] linhan.ee: Lin
[2014-11-03 1:38:58 PM] *** International Rob has shared contact details with linhan.ee. ***
[2014-11-05 11:06:03 AM] *** Call to linhan.ee, duration 13:43. ***
[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address
[2014-11-11 9:39:31 AM] linhan.ee: got it thanks
[2014-11-11 9:41:10 AM] linhan.ee: one thing concerns me. We promise people to release funds after ICO. If you expose this address with transactions later to people, they will know we release the funds early
[2014-11-11 9:41:29 AM] International Rob: no the address is new and no one will know it
[2014-11-11 9:41:35 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 9:41:48 AM] International Rob: the btc are being used to help pumop the price.. buy more coins and set support as well
[2014-11-11 9:41:58 AM] linhan.ee: so don't expose it
[2014-11-11 9:41:59 AM] International Rob: Its not my first ICO or coin eh
[2014-11-11 9:42:02 AM] International Rob: you do know this
[2014-11-11 9:42:03 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-11 9:42:10 AM] International Rob: I have a few coins under my belt
[2014-11-11 9:42:12 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:28 AM] International Rob: Gekko really got a good vibe from you
[2014-11-11 9:42:31 AM] International Rob: by the way
[2014-11-11 9:42:35 AM] International Rob: he is my right hand brother
[2014-11-11 9:42:43 AM] International Rob: what he said is gold
[2014-11-11 9:42:46 AM] International Rob: you are a good man
[2014-11-11 9:43:01 AM] linhan.ee: thanks Smiley
[2014-11-11 9:43:31 AM] linhan.ee: Let me know have much your team has  invested.
[2014-11-11 9:43:40 AM] linhan.ee: I will send you some BTC before I sleep
[2014-11-11 9:44:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:44:25 AM] International Rob: it will be over 500 for sure
[2014-11-11 9:44:42 AM] International Rob: we alredy are in for well over 400.... just one guy bought 100
[2014-11-11 9:44:43 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-11 9:45:02 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really fast
[2014-11-11 9:45:08 AM] linhan.ee: 1 hour 400 btc
[2014-11-11 9:45:11 AM] International Rob: but we have a excel spread sheat and as they buy they add the info to the sheat
[2014-11-11 9:45:20 AM] International Rob: I know
[2014-11-11 9:45:42 AM] International Rob: well you know we have had people waiting with new accounts on bter waiting for this morning
[2014-11-11 9:45:48 AM] International Rob: and this is just the start
[2014-11-11 9:45:57 AM] International Rob: we have not even gone crazy on twitter yet
[2014-11-11 9:46:08 AM] International Rob: we are record breakers
[2014-11-11 9:46:10 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really impressive
[2014-11-11 9:46:14 AM] International Rob: and this wil be one more record
[2014-11-11 9:47:08 AM] linhan.ee: yes, and we even haven't started to invest ours lol
[2014-11-11 9:48:59 AM] International Rob: lol I know
[2014-11-11 9:49:11 AM] International Rob: that why I told you for sure this would be amazing
[2014-11-11 9:49:33 AM] International Rob: its easy when you do the math right and work with pros
[2014-11-11 9:49:38 AM] International Rob: you my friend are a pro
[2014-11-11 9:49:40 AM] linhan.ee: it's amazing. professional team and good job
[2014-11-11 9:49:43 AM] International Rob: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:12 AM] linhan.ee: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:23 AM] International Rob: Thank man
[2014-11-11 9:50:29 AM] International Rob: I enjoy working with you
[2014-11-11 9:50:39 AM] International Rob: I know this project is just the begining
[2014-11-11 9:51:00 AM] linhan.ee: that's right. we can do a lot in the future together
[2014-11-11 9:53:25 AM] International Rob: Im serious though lin... we can take this coi n to the moon all 2015
[2014-11-11 9:53:32 AM] International Rob: I plan on making 1M on it
[2014-11-11 9:54:39 AM] linhan.ee: Right. This is the best coin in the cryto-world near the end of 2014
[2014-11-11 9:57:09 AM] International Rob: yeas and it will be the clear leader for 2015
[2014-11-11 10:12:06 AM] linhan.ee: 0.01btc has been sent to your address, txid= ac0b1a00de78a488e2fa202959dc6d6dda070d6cdc44a2a63a4183ea77446906
[2014-11-11 10:12:19 AM] linhan.ee: when you received it, please let me know
[2014-11-11 10:17:53 AM] International Rob: got it
[2014-11-11 10:19:00 AM | Edited 10:19:04 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 10:19:14 AM] linhan.ee: sending  500
[2014-11-11 10:19:32 AM] International Rob: ok will comnfirm
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 500 in 3 transactions:
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 0ecfe52a2c9a6913a81ef82c09c47a27d5867b95b9abc73bbbd51d2a65ba4819
[2014-11-11 10:20:56 AM] linhan.ee: e786e93003c29f261189b813cafe2fd4bcac1c937128781988378622a83929d8
[2014-11-11 10:21:01 AM] International Rob: wow
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] linhan.ee: 80053c4138dd8a5d4cda1cc5cefa86bf3e1fd5b9bd6a181e74ac5af4740542cf
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] International Rob: that was fast
[2014-11-11 10:21:05 AM] International Rob: got them
[2014-11-11 10:21:07 AM] International Rob: thank you
[2014-11-11 10:21:15 AM] International Rob: I will get some support put up shortly
[2014-11-11 10:22:00 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's from BTER's wallet. so please transafer it to some addresses else in case you need to expose the funds
[2014-11-11 10:22:23 AM] linhan.ee: otherwise, people can trace it
[2014-11-11 10:25:17 AM] International Rob: ok no worries
[2014-11-11 10:25:20 AM] International Rob: I am good with that
[2014-11-11 10:25:30 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-14 10:53:51 PM] International Rob: Good morning Lin, are you around?
[2014-11-14 10:54:00 PM] linhan.ee: yes
[2014-11-14 10:54:07 PM] International Rob: ohh sweet
[2014-11-14 10:54:14 PM] linhan.ee: i am working on the new codes of bitbay
[2014-11-14 10:54:15 PM] International Rob: been a hectic week eh
[2014-11-14 10:55:00 PM] International Rob: I was wondering if you can send me my portion of the coins now.. I am leaving for a flight in 10 hours and would like to have that taken care of before I need to go to sleep
[2014-11-14 10:55:11 PM] International Rob: By my math there should be around 180 btc per person right now
[2014-11-14 10:55:42 PM] International Rob: if you can send me the 180 now then as soon as I lan in the domician I can get started with my group to get the pump going
[2014-11-14 10:56:08 PM] linhan.ee: Sorry man, I cannot do that until Steven figures out how to release the funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:21 PM | Edited 10:56:27 PM] linhan.ee: He is discussing this with the other partners
[2014-11-14 10:56:25 PM] International Rob: i was just talking with them about that
[2014-11-14 10:56:33 PM] International Rob: we are just gonna send each partner their stack
[2014-11-14 10:56:36 PM] linhan.ee: yes, don't worry the funds are safe
[2014-11-14 10:56:53 PM] International Rob: and once everyone gets paid and the new wallet is out we will set up an account with multisig for the dev funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:59 PM] International Rob: im not worried
[2014-11-14 10:57:12 PM] International Rob: I just like to know that when I land i wil have the btc available to work with
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM | Edited 10:58:32 PM] linhan.ee: please leave me an address and I can take care of it when Steven finishes the funds distribution plan
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM] International Rob: i have asked steven to advise you that its ol
[2014-11-14 11:00:25 PM] linhan.ee: OK. I am talking with him
[2014-11-14 11:01:54 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-14 11:02:33 PM] International Rob: i hope you don't think i don't trust you or anything.. its not that.. its just with the time barrier between us i want to make sure everything is correct and in place prior to leaving to catch the flight
[2014-11-14 11:42:16 PM] linhan.ee: please confirm your receiving address to me
[2014-11-14 11:42:40 PM] linhan.ee: i don't want to make any mistake on big funds
[2014-11-14 11:43:12 PM] International Rob: 1AHWM2m8Hhq2pGcbKoWLkQD3fa7xu3su9s
[2014-11-14 11:43:27 PM] linhan.ee: confirmed. thanks
[2014-11-14 11:43:32 PM] International Rob: Thank you
[2014-11-14 11:43:58 PM] International Rob: we will launch the market at nov 15th at 5 PM EST.. Ney York time?
[2014-11-14 11:45:16 PM] linhan.ee: Steven said we will wait until you're ready before we open the market
[2014-11-14 11:45:25 PM] International Rob: if that is possible
[2014-11-14 11:45:36 PM] International Rob: I wil be ready at 5pm EST on the 15th....
[2014-11-14 11:45:44 PM] International Rob: Provided my flight lands on time
[2014-11-14 11:45:49 PM] International Rob: I land at 2PM est
[2014-11-14 11:46:05 PM] International Rob: so that gives me 3 hours to prepare and get from airport to hotel ect
[2014-11-14 11:46:50 PM] International Rob: Please confirm when sent..
[2014-11-14 11:46:51 PM] International Rob: TY
[2014-11-14 11:47:51 PM] linhan.ee: 170 btc sent
[2014-11-14 11:48:46 PM] International Rob: Recived.. please let the transaction brodcastr
[2014-11-14 11:48:59 PM] linhan.ee: sure
[2014-11-14 11:49:04 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-14 11:49:17 PM] International Rob: so we will launch at nov 15th at 5pm EST
[2014-11-14 11:49:18 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-14 11:49:54 PM] linhan.ee: let me check the time in my time zoon
[2014-11-14 11:50:17 PM] International Rob: ok
[2014-11-14 11:50:23 PM] International Rob: it is NewYork time 5PM
[2014-11-14 11:50:29 PM] International Rob: Same as London Ontario
[2014-11-14 11:50:31 PM] International Rob: Tongue
[2014-11-14 11:51:44 PM] linhan.ee: so it's 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:51:57 PM] International Rob: when was the ico supposed to end
[2014-11-14 11:52:02 PM] International Rob: at 1300 correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:11 PM] linhan.ee: 13:00 GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] International Rob: ok perfect
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] linhan.ee: correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:57 PM] linhan.ee: Yes, I can set up the market opening time to 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:53:26 PM] linhan.ee: but we'd better give you more time
[2014-11-14 11:53:37 PM] International Rob: you think 3 hours should be enough
[2014-11-14 11:53:38 PM] linhan.ee: to make sure you're ready before the market open
[2014-11-14 11:54:23 PM] linhan.ee: As we discussed when Gekko was here in Shanhai, we want the price to be pumped to a certain level above ICO price when the market is open
[2014-11-14 11:54:45 PM] International Rob: I was thinking that we pump and hold above 500 sat for the first week
[2014-11-14 11:54:52 PM] International Rob: try to keep it steady there
[2014-11-14 11:55:07 PM] International Rob: then when we release the new wallet with the smart contracts then we do a big push
[2014-11-14 11:55:17 PM] linhan.ee: yes, let the wallet release at the same time so that you can pump it easily
[2014-11-14 11:55:25 PM] linhan.ee: ok
[2014-11-14 11:55:31 PM] linhan.ee: that's also a good plan
[2014-11-14 11:55:42 PM] International Rob: Well we need tech to pump hard
[2014-11-14 11:55:43 PM] linhan.ee: you can also let me hold the market until the wallet is released
[2014-11-14 11:55:44 PM] linhan.ee: all on you
[2014-11-14 11:56:05 PM] International Rob: we can pump a bit on the ico ending, but the real money will cme in with the multicoin wallet with smart contracts
[2014-11-14 11:56:16 PM] International Rob: then the next major pump will be on the marketplace in december
[2014-11-14 11:56:31 PM] International Rob: no we cant hold the market too long
[2014-11-14 11:57:02 PM] linhan.ee: ok, no problem
[2014-11-14 11:57:11 PM] International Rob: i think that our plan to open at 5 tomorrow is fine and will be great
[2014-11-14 11:57:29 PM] linhan.ee: if 22pm gmt 15th is good for you, you can release the news
[2014-11-14 11:57:56 PM] International Rob: yes gecko is making the post now
[2014-11-14 11:57:59 PM] International Rob: then we wil tweet it
[2014-11-14 11:58:05 PM] International Rob: and everyone wil be ready for the market to open
[2014-11-14 11:59:52 PM] linhan.ee: ok, i have to go for food.  have a good trip
[2014-11-15 12:00:21 AM] International Rob: ok thank you
[2014-11-15 12:00:26 AM] International Rob: i will tal to you tomorrow afternoon
[2014-11-15 12:00:35 AM] International Rob: you will be around for the pump?
[2014-11-15 12:00:51 AM] linhan.ee: yes i will
[2014-11-15 12:01:09 AM] linhan.ee: no maybe not i will check my schedule
[2014-11-15 12:01:21 AM] linhan.ee: i have a meeting on the same day
[2014-11-15 12:01:25 AM] International Rob: ok well i have set aside 12 hours to pump
[2014-11-15 12:01:30 AM] International Rob: and gecko will also be here
[2014-11-15 12:01:35 AM] International Rob: and so will my team
[2014-11-15 12:01:42 AM] International Rob: they will know the plan
[2014-11-15 12:01:46 AM] International Rob: i am letting them all know now
[2014-11-17 1:50:08 AM] International Rob: lin
[2014-11-17 1:50:11 AM] International Rob: can we talk?
[2014-11-17 1:50:15 AM] International Rob: can I call you on skype
[2014-11-17 1:50:16 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-12-06 10:49:03 AM] International Rob: why did you leave the chat?
[2014-12-06 10:52:28 AM] linhan.ee: it's useless to work in that style. i don't blame steven but it's a horrible management of the project
[2014-12-06 10:52:43 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:52:46 AM] International Rob: the management sucks
[2014-12-06 10:52:58 AM] International Rob: but gecko has been trying for weeks to get steven doing what he needs to
[2014-12-06 10:53:02 AM] International Rob: I like steven
[2014-12-06 10:53:09 AM] International Rob: but david is a pure liar
[2014-12-06 10:53:29 AM] linhan.ee: steven asked me to get gekko back to work together today on the release
[2014-12-06 10:53:58 AM] linhan.ee: i almost begged gekko to work on the marketing since we are releasing the new wallet
[2014-12-06 10:54:04 AM] linhan.ee: but he refused to do so
[2014-12-06 10:54:15 AM] linhan.ee: i respect his decision
[2014-12-06 10:54:33 AM] International Rob: well hes pissed
[2014-12-06 10:54:53 AM] International Rob: he hates thjat david is a partner and on the forums all hes talking about is using the ico money to help blackcoin
[2014-12-06 10:54:59 AM] International Rob: and that we just bought the tech from him
[2014-12-06 10:55:06 AM] International Rob: that's not the deal we had agreed too
[2014-12-06 10:55:07 AM] International Rob: also
[2014-12-06 10:55:22 AM] International Rob: you guys gave david a fair cut as if he also put in 500 btc in the begining
[2014-12-06 10:55:24 AM] International Rob: that was us
[2014-12-06 10:55:30 AM] International Rob: you and I and steven and gekko
[2014-12-06 10:55:34 AM] International Rob: so only we get that money back
[2014-12-06 10:55:46 AM] International Rob: but somehow he got cut in on money we put out
[2014-12-06 10:55:50 AM] linhan.ee: i talked with gekko on the same issue
[2014-12-06 10:55:51 AM] International Rob: its a little ass backwards
[2014-12-06 10:56:09 AM] linhan.ee: the thing is that the money is out and we cannot get it back
[2014-12-06 10:56:21 AM] linhan.ee: we cannot go back to the beginning and reorgnize the whole thing
[2014-12-06 10:56:45 AM] linhan.ee: however, we are still very positive about this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] linhan.ee: I promised steven to put more human resources on this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:16 AM] International Rob: im still on this bro
[2014-12-06 10:57:23 AM] International Rob: I have 40 people holdmg bay
[2014-12-06 10:57:25 AM] International Rob: waiting to pump
[2014-12-06 10:57:29 AM] International Rob: waiting to make moves
[2014-12-06 10:57:35 AM] International Rob: steven said he would get a pump going with me
[2014-12-06 10:57:42 AM] International Rob: I will handle bittrex and him for bter
[2014-12-06 10:57:48 AM] linhan.ee: thanks it's really nice to hear that from you
[2014-12-06 10:58:32 AM] linhan.ee: it's really good to both of us if we work together
[2014-12-06 10:58:39 AM] linhan.ee: we can make much much more on it
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] International Rob: bro I like you gus
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] linhan.ee: this is a very good project by itself
[2014-12-06 10:59:07 AM] International Rob: as much as we have had our problems... I am still a team member with a vested interest in seeing bay go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:17 AM] International Rob: i just cant work with david anymore
[2014-12-06 10:59:26 AM] International Rob: stseven and you are gonna have to be his handler
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] linhan.ee: it will definitely go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:48 AM] linhan.ee: yes, i know
[2014-12-06 11:00:05 AM] linhan.ee: i suggested steven to work it out in another way
[2014-12-06 11:00:17 AM] linhan.ee: as you know david got paid a lot
[2014-12-06 11:00:22 AM] linhan.ee: don't lose the money
[2014-12-06 11:00:34 AM] linhan.ee: let him do what he can do
[2014-12-06 11:00:40 AM] linhan.ee: and we do our best on this project too
[2014-12-06 11:00:46 AM] linhan.ee: but don't work in the old ways
[2014-12-06 11:01:28 AM] International Rob: i agree
[2014-12-06 11:01:37 AM] International Rob: i think what we need is a project mamnager
[2014-12-06 11:01:40 AM] International Rob: maybe not steven
[2014-12-06 11:01:46 AM] International Rob: who can contact all the players
[2014-12-06 11:01:49 AM] International Rob: and be the go to guy
[2014-12-06 11:01:54 AM] International Rob: the one that everyone likes
[2014-12-06 11:03:50 AM] linhan.ee: i know you and gekko are very angry with david. but objectively, he got paid we cannot get the money back. if he contributes on the dev work, why not let him do so.
[2014-12-06 11:03:51 AM] linhan.ee: right
[2014-12-06 11:04:22 AM] linhan.ee: but right now, steven is the only right person can do so. I am too busy to manage this project to I am going to help steven
[2014-12-06 11:04:36 AM] linhan.ee: also on the dev work
[2014-12-06 11:04:55 AM] linhan.ee: I will assign two coders to work on it
[2014-12-06 11:05:05 AM] International Rob: i know
[2014-12-06 11:05:06 AM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-12-06 11:05:09 AM] International Rob: that is in the past
[2014-12-06 11:05:14 AM] International Rob: lets mnove forward and make money
[2014-12-06 11:05:18 AM] linhan.ee: that's right
[2014-12-06 11:05:20 AM] International Rob: now i am talking to steven
[2014-12-06 11:05:23 AM] International Rob: i wil be right bakc
[2014-12-06 11:05:28 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-12-06 11:05:36 AM] linhan.ee: i am really glad to see this
[2014-12-06 11:06:31 AM] linhan.ee: I will let my guys report to steven on the UI design and dev work. steven will communicate with you on pump and marketing etc.
[2014-12-06 11:06:49 AM] linhan.ee: so we move forward together and we can make much more
[2014-12-06 11:20:40 AM] International Rob: we are moving forward together
[2014-12-06 11:21:04 AM] International Rob: starting tomoroow steven and i wil start placing support and slowly bring the price back up over 300 sat
[2014-12-06 11:21:34 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's a good chance.
[2014-12-06 11:21:58 AM] linhan.ee: i am so glad to hear this. you are professional
[2014-12-06 11:23:54 AM] International Rob: i know sometime i act crazy... and its cause of the weed i smoke\
[2014-12-06 11:24:03 AM] International Rob: but when itr comes to business its serious
[2014-12-08 1:25:15 PM] International Rob: hi lin
[2014-12-08 1:25:18 PM] International Rob: are you awake?
[9:19:09 PM] International Rob: Lin bro
[9:19:12 PM] International Rob: we have some problems
[9:19:22 PM] International Rob: we need to dump the price and pick up all the coins for cheap
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: are you here
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: ?
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FUCK IT... UNEDITED CHAT WITH MYSELF AND DAVID, FOLLOWED BY CHATS I HAD WITH LIN FROM BTER.. THE SECOND CHINESE PARTNER...
NOW YOU CAN READ IT ALL, LEARN THE INNER WORKINGS OF HOW A COIN IS BROUGHT TO MARKET... DAVID.. YOU WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO STEP DOWN AND QUIT WORKING ON THIS COIN AND LET THE COMMUNITY TAKE OVER...


I ALSO THINK SOME OF YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO LIN WHO IS THE CEO/OWNER OF BTER WHO USED PHANTOM BTC TO BUY THE BAY ICO, MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THERE WAS VOLUME AND ENDED UP WITH LOTS OF FREE STEAK AND POTATOES.. I THINK DOING THAT FROM YOUR OWN EXCHANGE MAY BE ILLEGAL.....

I WILL POST SCREEN SHOTS LATER AND GEKKO ALSO HAS 3 CHAT LOGS HE WOULD LIKE TO POST... I COULD NOT WAIT ANYMORE... I HAD TO SHARE MINE..


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[2014-11-03 2:14:18 PM] International Rob: Hi dzimbeck, I'd like to add you as a contact.
[2014-11-03 2:16:22 PM] *** David Zimbeck has shared contact details with International Rob. ***
[2014-11-03 2:17:12 PM] *** Missed call from David Zimbeck. ***
[2014-11-03 2:24:33 PM] *** Call to David Zimbeck ***
[2014-11-03 2:56:22 PM] David Zimbeck: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
[2014-11-03 4:36:25 PM] David Zimbeck: http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2014/10/meet_the_americans_serving_life_in_jail_for_weed.php
[2014-11-03 4:37:45 PM] International Rob: http://www.alternet.org/story/156061/life_without_parole_for_pot_10_worst_cases_of_cruel_and_unusual_punishment
[2014-11-03 4:42:28 PM] David Zimbeck: https://defdist.org/
[2014-11-03 5:14:27 PM] *** Call ended, duration 2:49:48 ***
[2014-11-03 5:14:32 PM] *** Call to David Zimbeck, duration 00:19. ***
[2014-11-03 5:15:01 PM] David Zimbeck: hey it keeps cutting out
[2014-11-03 5:15:12 PM] International Rob: iw it ur mic?
[2014-11-03 5:15:15 PM] International Rob: or ur speakers
[2014-11-03 5:15:16 PM] David Zimbeck: no
[2014-11-03 5:15:23 PM] David Zimbeck: the internet connection maybe?
[2014-11-03 5:15:27 PM] *** Call to David Zimbeck, duration 20:05. ***
[2014-11-03 5:36:08 PM] International Rob: was a pleasure talking with you Dave... I look forward to much more interactions with you......
[2014-11-03 5:36:17 PM] International Rob: we gonna make bank and new tech the whole way
[2014-11-03 5:36:22 PM] International Rob: (highfive)
[2014-11-07 12:12:00 PM] International Rob: hey david
[2014-11-07 12:12:05 PM] International Rob: you around fort a quick chat
[2014-11-07 12:12:07 PM] International Rob: >??
[2014-11-07 12:37:16 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-07 12:39:42 PM] David Zimbeck: are you there or not?
[2014-11-07 1:48:23 PM] International Rob: sorry bud.. I was running out and I guess you missed me
[2014-11-07 1:48:30 PM] International Rob: you around now?
[2014-11-07 1:49:59 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-07 1:50:08 PM] David Zimbeck: lots of craziness today
[2014-11-07 1:50:23 PM] International Rob: how so?
[2014-11-07 1:52:32 PM] International Rob: you mean like looking for coders in Cambodia type of shit
[2014-11-07 1:52:33 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-07 1:57:33 PM] David Zimbeck: no who wrote that Bitcointalk post?
[2014-11-07 1:58:31 PM] International Rob: no that was gecko.....
[2014-11-07 1:58:45 PM] International Rob: Im not sure why you were upset with it though
[2014-11-07 1:58:52 PM] International Rob: do you have a few moments to talk over voice
[2014-11-07 2:02:48 PM] David Zimbeck: thats not good
[2014-11-07 2:03:04 PM] David Zimbeck: he stated as if BitBay was the first smart contract coin
[2014-11-07 2:03:10 PM] David Zimbeck: as well as the first with markets
[2014-11-07 2:03:18 PM] David Zimbeck: but its actually BlackHalo tech
[2014-11-07 2:03:19 PM] International Rob: it is the first with markets
[2014-11-07 2:03:20 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-07 2:03:27 PM] International Rob: I know its not the first with contracts though
[2014-11-07 2:03:41 PM] David Zimbeck: no the markets are simultaneous
[2014-11-07 2:03:42 PM] David Zimbeck: with Halo
[2014-11-07 2:03:52 PM] David Zimbeck: I have been working on Halo for an entire year
[2014-11-07 2:04:15 PM] International Rob: i understand
[2014-11-07 2:04:19 PM] David Zimbeck: Its ok, I edited the post
[2014-11-07 2:04:27 PM] David Zimbeck: trust me, you dont want Blackcoin on your ass
[2014-11-07 2:04:29 PM] International Rob: so bitcoin and blockcoin wil have their own markets as well at the same time?
[2014-11-07 2:04:32 PM] David Zimbeck: your coin wll get fucking smashed
[2014-11-07 2:04:39 PM] David Zimbeck: i guarantee it
[2014-11-07 2:04:42 PM] International Rob: its not my coin,.. its ours bro
[2014-11-07 2:04:46 PM] David Zimbeck: rat4 will hack the fuck out of it
[2014-11-07 2:04:54 PM] David Zimbeck: its the royal "you"
[2014-11-07 2:05:08 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-07 2:05:19 PM] International Rob: so where do we stand now
[2014-11-07 2:05:23 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-07 2:05:28 PM] David Zimbeck: nothing has changed i edited the post
[2014-11-07 2:05:30 PM] International Rob: did lin and steven give you an advance to post on reddit
[2014-11-07 2:05:31 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-07 2:05:37 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-07 2:05:41 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah they had to
[2014-11-07 2:05:47 PM] David Zimbeck: it was a small amount
[2014-11-07 2:06:01 PM] David Zimbeck: but i could not literally open my mouth without it
[2014-11-07 2:06:22 PM] International Rob: but i thought we had an understanding.. we were all equal partners...
[2014-11-07 2:06:23 PM] International Rob: i mean
[2014-11-07 2:06:25 PM] David Zimbeck: within about 10 seconds of that post i had about 50 emails
[2014-11-07 2:06:29 PM] International Rob: its not outa my pocket so no harm done
[2014-11-07 2:06:48 PM] International Rob: but id like to ,ove forward with you as a partner
[2014-11-07 2:07:09 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-07 2:07:50 PM] International Rob: so are you gonna be stopping by the thread from time to time
[2014-11-07 2:08:11 PM] *** Call from David Zimbeck, duration 39:00. ***
[2014-11-07 2:48:51 PM] *** Call to David Zimbeck, duration 15:06. ***
[2014-11-07 3:12:25 PM] International Rob: hey bud... what time zone is Cambodia considered
[2014-11-07 3:12:26 PM] International Rob: gmt?
[2014-11-07 3:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: i have no idea
[2014-11-07 3:23:25 PM] David Zimbeck: everything like here is outer space to me
[2014-11-07 3:26:49 PM] International Rob: i figured it out and posted on the forums
[2014-11-07 5:29:53 PM] International Rob: Hey dave you around?
[2014-11-07 5:38:17 PM] International Rob: I was looking over the reddit and some things and realized that you made it clear out there that you are not a partner on this project... I really want you in as a partner.. I had asked you earlier if you wanted to do the pod and be the "main" Lead dev and you said you did.. I really want people to understand that you are part of bitbay... Maybe you can say the investors came to you and want you as an equal partner or wtv you feel to say but I do believe the BC community and the bay community will both do better because of it
[2014-11-07 5:38:23 PM] International Rob: you know what I mean
[2014-11-07 7:22:57 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah point me to the post
[2014-11-07 7:24:12 PM] International Rob: yOU MEAN TO THE THREAD>
[2014-11-07 7:24:17 PM] International Rob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.0
[2014-11-07 7:24:40 PM] International Rob: I just want both communities to work together and make a serious impace on everyone involved
[2014-11-07 7:41:04 PM] David Zimbeck: no you were saying i said something on reddit
[2014-11-07 7:41:20 PM] David Zimbeck: the key point here is i am the lead dev
[2014-11-07 7:41:28 PM] International Rob: ohhh just a few things nothing major
[2014-11-07 7:41:47 PM] International Rob: I just need to feel some love from you for bitbay.... you don't need to be all over it \
[2014-11-07 7:41:58 PM] David Zimbeck: Yeah for sur
[2014-11-07 7:42:01 PM] International Rob: also.. you are the main dev??
[2014-11-07 7:42:03 PM] International Rob: are you not
[2014-11-07 7:42:07 PM] David Zimbeck: we can iron that out during the AMA
[2014-11-07 7:42:09 PM] David Zimbeck: yea of course
[2014-11-07 7:42:15 PM] International Rob: ok that's what I though
[2014-11-07 7:42:18 PM] David Zimbeck: I commented on Bitcointalk
[2014-11-07 7:42:25 PM] International Rob: the ama will be perfect for that actually
[2014-11-07 7:42:28 PM] International Rob: no worries
[2014-11-07 7:42:30 PM] David Zimbeck: however I changed the post to say "project manager"
[2014-11-07 7:42:42 PM] David Zimbeck: because it also means I will be managing other devs
[2014-11-07 7:42:45 PM] David Zimbeck: If needed
[2014-11-07 7:42:56 PM] David Zimbeck: In the meantime i just code
[2014-11-07 7:43:05 PM] David Zimbeck: thats what im going to do
[2014-11-07 7:43:12 PM] David Zimbeck: like i do every damn day!!
[2014-11-07 7:43:12 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-07 7:43:27 PM] International Rob: well I want people to know that you are the lead dev/project manager.. I want them to know that because of this project you will be in Cambodia putting together a sick team of devs who will work for bay and halo
[2014-11-07 7:43:30 PM] International Rob: ect etc ect
[2014-11-07 7:43:33 PM] David Zimbeck: but yeah it just sounds like im throwing the baby out with the bathwater otherwise
[2014-11-07 7:43:48 PM] International Rob: lolol
[2014-11-07 7:43:55 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah you can put that
[2014-11-07 7:44:08 PM] David Zimbeck: but people thought I was not doing Halo work
[2014-11-07 7:44:26 PM] David Zimbeck: I can tweak the main post a bit more
[2014-11-07 7:44:31 PM] International Rob: nahh they gotta know your are doing both
[2014-11-07 7:44:35 PM] International Rob: they are both ur babies
[2014-11-07 7:44:38 PM] International Rob: Smiley
[2014-11-07 7:44:42 PM] David Zimbeck: i know that of course
[2014-11-07 7:44:47 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-07 7:44:49 PM] International Rob: no worries
[2014-11-07 7:44:52 PM] David Zimbeck: but yesterday was stressful as hell
[2014-11-07 7:44:56 PM] International Rob: just wanted to touch base with you regarding that
[2014-11-07 7:45:02 PM] David Zimbeck: ive worked an entire year to get this far
[2014-11-07 7:45:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i will be walking around cambodia with a machete if im stuck for much longer
[2014-11-07 7:45:34 PM] International Rob: lmao
[2014-11-07 7:45:37 PM] David Zimbeck: eating out of the fucking trash can
[2014-11-07 7:45:38 PM] International Rob: we cangt have that happen
[2014-11-07 7:45:55 PM] International Rob: that would be like a bad horror movie
[2014-11-07 7:45:56 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-07 7:45:57 PM] David Zimbeck: the new Satoshi Nakamoto eating garbage on the streets of Cambodia
[2014-11-07 7:46:01 PM] International Rob: brb gotta let the dogs out
[2014-11-07 7:46:09 PM] International Rob: (rofl)
[2014-11-07 7:46:17 PM] David Zimbeck: lol sometimes I feel like im in an episode of the twilight zone
[2014-11-07 7:46:20 PM] David Zimbeck: anyways yeah
[2014-11-07 7:46:31 PM] David Zimbeck: i talked to Steven about all this
[2014-11-07 7:46:43 PM] David Zimbeck: just let me know what you want changed in any reddit or Bitcointalk posts
[2014-11-07 7:46:59 PM] David Zimbeck: The Blackcoin foundation is already behind us
[2014-11-07 7:47:08 PM] David Zimbeck: im sure they are a little green with envy
[2014-11-07 7:47:35 PM] David Zimbeck: so we gotta make it happen
[2014-11-07 7:48:06 PM] David Zimbeck: Or else I will be shining shoes at the airport
[2014-11-07 7:48:12 PM] International Rob: don't worry bro,.... nothing needs to be changed.. whats done is doen.. no worries... just moving forward I want us all to be on the same page and for us to figure out a way you can come out and let everyone know that this is ur baby too..
[2014-11-07 7:48:21 PM] International Rob: ok brb dogs at door crying
[2014-11-07 7:48:22 PM] David Zimbeck: or pulling cans out of a trash can
[2014-11-07 7:48:23 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-07 7:48:35 PM] David Zimbeck: and my blackcoins will be the first coin ever to hit -1 satoshi
[2014-11-07 7:49:00 PM] David Zimbeck: Yeah lets clarify this at the AMA
[2014-11-07 9:14:42 PM] International Rob: https://twitter.com/BitBayMarket/status/530904138750914561
[2014-11-08 7:43:10 PM] International Rob: LOL, love that last post on the reddit about not being able to raise 10K
[2014-11-08 7:43:17 PM] International Rob: those days are long over for you david
[2014-11-08 7:43:21 PM] International Rob: looooooong over
[2014-11-08 10:09:53 PM] David Zimbeck: hahaah you saw?
[2014-11-08 10:10:03 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah some really jealous assholes in Blackcoin
[2014-11-08 10:10:55 PM] David Zimbeck: but its bad for my public image to appear weak and i think they thought that because i was acting like some sort of martyr that I wasnt going to make money and improve my life and wellbeing
[2014-11-08 10:11:19 PM] David Zimbeck: They want to make money on my back every time there is an update
[2014-11-08 10:11:36 PM] David Zimbeck: what they did not realize was, if i actually had money, then i would work about 100 times faster
[2014-11-08 10:12:11 PM] David Zimbeck: and they probably have this fear that if i had money i wouldnt work on crypto projects which is just stupid because this is job
[2014-11-08 10:23:35 PM] David Zimbeck: meant to say this is my profession... lol
[2014-11-09 5:59:15 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-09 5:59:26 PM] International Rob: people don't reLIZE THAT MONEY MAKES THINGS HAPPEN
[2014-11-09 5:59:31 PM] International Rob: its the truth though
[2014-11-09 5:59:33 PM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-11-09 5:59:42 PM] International Rob: can you supply me with a timer to the ama
[2014-11-09 5:59:58 PM] International Rob: I know its a bullshit job but I don't want to get it wrong so id prefer if you set it
[2014-11-09 6:00:07 PM] International Rob: ima start tweeting n it out there so people are ready
[2014-11-09 6:00:15 PM] International Rob: and do we need our own reddit to host it
[2014-11-09 6:00:33 PM] International Rob: you seem like you know a bunch about reddit and sadly that is not one of my strong suits
[2014-11-09 6:01:24 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but i have to have some sort of subreddit to post in
[2014-11-09 6:01:31 PM] David Zimbeck: cant do it at blackcoin
[2014-11-09 6:01:49 PM] David Zimbeck: i thought you guys picked a time ask Steven
[2014-11-09 6:01:55 PM] International Rob: is there one for cryptocurrency
[2014-11-09 6:01:57 PM] David Zimbeck: it was like at the night or something
[2014-11-09 6:02:04 PM] International Rob: you picked the time bro
[2014-11-09 6:02:11 PM] International Rob: lol the 10th at like 9pm ur time
[2014-11-09 6:02:26 PM] International Rob: I just want you to go to one of those stupid sites and create the countdown
[2014-11-09 6:02:31 PM] International Rob: so everyone is on the same page
[2014-11-09 6:02:53 PM] David Zimbeck: well yeah we can make that but what site are you talking about
[2014-11-09 6:02:58 PM] International Rob: Also.. how is the POD coming along
[2014-11-09 6:02:59 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-09 6:03:05 PM] International Rob: with crypto asian
[2014-11-09 6:03:07 PM] David Zimbeck: dunno
[2014-11-09 6:03:15 PM] David Zimbeck: they didnt say anything else
[2014-11-09 6:03:30 PM] International Rob: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create
[2014-11-09 6:03:40 PM] International Rob: can you send him an email again maybe
[2014-11-09 6:03:40 PM] David Zimbeck: hey are you guys concerned it wont sell out?
[2014-11-09 6:03:43 PM] David Zimbeck: say you talking
[2014-11-09 6:03:48 PM] International Rob: we should have that done before the ico starts
[2014-11-09 6:03:55 PM] International Rob: nope
[2014-11-09 6:04:06 PM] International Rob: we know it will sell out because we have enough ammo to sell it out
[2014-11-09 6:04:30 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[2014-11-09 6:04:30 PM] International Rob: they we worried that investors would wait for the end and we really want them putting their money up front
[2014-11-09 6:04:32 PM] David Zimbeck: cool
[2014-11-09 6:04:41 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah of course
[2014-11-09 6:04:47 PM] International Rob: so they created a plan to improve the return for early investros
[2014-11-09 6:04:50 PM] David Zimbeck: its not my area of expertise
[2014-11-09 6:05:01 PM] David Zimbeck: otherwise would advise
[2014-11-09 6:05:08 PM] International Rob: no worries
[2014-11-09 6:05:17 PM] International Rob: once they explained it to me it all made sense
[2014-11-09 6:05:22 PM] International Rob: we will also have a bit buying
[2014-11-09 6:05:23 PM] David Zimbeck: i know its all about basic math and common sense
[2014-11-09 6:05:25 PM] International Rob: bot*
[2014-11-09 6:05:30 PM] International Rob: lol yeah
[2014-11-09 6:05:41 PM] David Zimbeck: you guys have botS?
[2014-11-09 6:05:46 PM] International Rob: greed rules.. why wait for the end when you can be up 20% by then
[2014-11-09 6:05:46 PM] David Zimbeck: how cool
[2014-11-09 6:05:50 PM] International Rob: yeah
[2014-11-09 6:05:56 PM] International Rob: bter has some
[2014-11-09 6:06:01 PM] International Rob: and we have a few guys with some
[2014-11-09 6:06:11 PM] David Zimbeck: so what about some of the people who are like "grr i dont like ICO"
[2014-11-09 6:06:38 PM] David Zimbeck: i mean its probably the same people who bought etherium premine lol
[2014-11-09 6:06:42 PM] International Rob: they don't lkike ico till its 505 sold out.. then they panic sell their other coins to get in
[2014-11-09 6:06:43 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-09 6:06:46 PM] International Rob: but for real
[2014-11-09 6:06:49 PM] International Rob: we do need that POD
[2014-11-09 6:06:59 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah i just emailed him
[2014-11-09 6:07:03 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-09 6:07:15 PM] International Rob: did you happen to tell him our ico starts in less then 2 days
[2014-11-09 6:07:17 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-09 6:07:18 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-09 6:07:25 PM] David Zimbeck: as for the time, i dont do my own bookings
[2014-11-09 6:07:29 PM] David Zimbeck: i was hearing 9pm ama
[2014-11-09 6:07:44 PM] David Zimbeck: but i dont know when the exact time bter opens the thing
[2014-11-09 6:07:55 PM] David Zimbeck: i know Steven knows this stuff
[2014-11-09 6:08:03 PM] David Zimbeck: but im thinking he said 9pm
[2014-11-09 6:08:18 PM] International Rob: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141111T13&p0=136
[2014-11-09 6:08:24 PM] David Zimbeck: as for the countdown i know its on the 11th no clue as to the specific time
[2014-11-09 6:08:25 PM] International Rob: that's when the ico starts
[2014-11-09 6:08:55 PM] International Rob: so ur ama shopould start in like 12 hours or so
[2014-11-09 6:08:56 PM] David Zimbeck: ama is tonight right?
[2014-11-09 6:08:57 PM] International Rob: if possibel
[2014-11-09 6:09:00 PM] International Rob: baye a bit more
[2014-11-09 6:14:04 PM] International Rob: well
[2014-11-09 6:14:10 PM] International Rob: that depends
[2014-11-09 6:14:12 PM] International Rob: its the night for me
[2014-11-09 6:15:28 PM] International Rob: that's why I would like if you coulsd set up the timer
[2014-11-09 6:16:49 PM] International Rob: can you set that up bro
[2014-11-09 6:24:56 PM] International Rob: did you fall asleep on me bro?
[2014-11-09 7:11:41 PM] David Zimbeck: the time is running
[2014-11-09 7:11:52 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont understand what you are asking exactly
[2014-11-09 7:12:52 PM] David Zimbeck: but yeah i dont know what that timer is, why would you need someone to set it up, when you gave me the link it was counting down
[2014-11-09 7:13:34 PM] David Zimbeck: im coding all day, super busy and tonight i have devs coming over i havent even prepared to figure out what the hell they are supposed to work on
[2014-11-09 7:14:19 PM] International Rob: ok so in how many hours do yu want to run the AMA?
[2014-11-09 7:14:45 PM] David Zimbeck: like one
[2014-11-09 7:14:55 PM] International Rob: no in how mnay hours
[2014-11-09 7:14:59 PM] International Rob: you want to run it tonight?>
[2014-11-09 7:15:02 PM] International Rob: like in an hour
[2014-11-09 7:15:03 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-09 7:15:11 PM] International Rob: we would like to have more time to premote it
[2014-11-09 7:15:16 PM] International Rob: can we do it tomorrow same time
[2014-11-09 7:15:20 PM] International Rob: so 24 hours from now
[2014-11-09 7:15:42 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-09 7:15:49 PM] International Rob: and news back from crypto Asian?
[2014-11-09 7:18:01 PM] David Zimbeck: no didnt hear back
[2014-11-09 7:18:07 PM] David Zimbeck: tonight is fine for AMA
[2014-11-09 7:18:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i can do an hour
[2014-11-09 7:22:51 PM] International Rob: yeah but tonight is one day sooner then ecpected
[2014-11-09 7:23:06 PM] International Rob: I want some of my people around to get the buzz going
[2014-11-09 7:23:13 PM] International Rob: can we ren it tomorrow at the same time?
[2014-11-09 7:24:09 PM] David Zimbeck: ok tomorrow is no prob
[2014-11-09 7:24:23 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-09 7:24:29 PM] International Rob: I will get that out thjere now then
[2014-11-09 7:27:30 PM] International Rob: can I call you the project manager?
[2014-11-09 7:27:33 PM] International Rob: is that ok with you?
[2014-11-09 7:28:00 PM] International Rob: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20141110T1930&year=2014&month=11&day=10&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&msg=AMA%20with%20Mr%20David%20Zimbeck
[2014-11-09 8:02:45 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-09 8:02:55 PM] David Zimbeck: lead dev just makes it sound like im spread too thin
[2014-11-09 8:03:00 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-09 8:03:04 PM] David Zimbeck: you know?
[2014-11-09 8:03:04 PM] International Rob: Dev project manager
[2014-11-09 8:03:08 PM] David Zimbeck: it scared a lot of people
[2014-11-09 8:03:13 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah im definitely a dev
[2014-11-09 8:03:15 PM] David Zimbeck: no doubt
[2014-11-09 8:03:24 PM] International Rob: wel thoese people should have been taken care fo you from the start
[2014-11-09 8:03:26 PM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-11-09 8:03:29 PM] International Rob: its gonna be huge
[2014-11-09 8:03:31 PM] David Zimbeck: but a lot of the things i do for BitBay also get worked into Halo
[2014-11-09 8:03:39 PM] International Rob: this partnership will be great for all the parties involved
[2014-11-09 8:03:41 PM] International Rob: no doubt
[2014-11-09 8:03:46 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah i agree
[2014-11-09 8:03:51 PM] International Rob: I know
[2014-11-09 8:04:04 PM] International Rob: its not about which coin has the tech.. its about which coin is being used for the tech
[2014-11-09 8:04:14 PM] International Rob: that is where I believe bitbay will pull in the lead
[2014-11-09 8:04:20 PM] International Rob: the tech will be used
[2014-11-09 8:04:23 PM] International Rob: over and over again
[2014-11-09 8:04:29 PM] International Rob: making this world a better place
[2014-11-09 8:04:33 PM] International Rob: and our pockets fatter
[2014-11-09 8:04:48 PM] International Rob: ok so tomorrow we got that ama
[2014-11-09 8:04:55 PM] International Rob: you will set up the link
[2014-11-09 8:05:08 PM] International Rob: you can send it to me if you want to get it going tonight and we just post it live tomorrow
[2014-11-09 8:05:14 PM] International Rob: well like 23 hours from now
[2014-11-09 8:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-09 8:31:35 PM] International Rob: ok awesome
[2014-11-09 8:31:41 PM] International Rob: im looking forward to it
[2014-11-09 9:28:46 PM] International Rob: Hey dave..any word from crypto Asian yet?
[2014-11-09 9:46:18 PM] International Rob: you around
[2014-11-09 9:46:40 PM] International Rob: would be cool if you could explain this once on the thread
[2014-11-09 9:46:41 PM] International Rob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.new#new
[2014-11-09 9:53:01 PM] International Rob: dave???
[2014-11-09 9:59:18 PM] International Rob: y
[2014-11-09 9:59:20 PM] International Rob: ty
[2014-11-09 10:09:49 PM] International Rob: I think you may have quoted the wrong quote on ur last post bro
[2014-11-09 10:13:24 PM] David Zimbeck: Hey there
[2014-11-09 10:13:39 PM] David Zimbeck: i responded in BCT and to the fud
[2014-11-09 10:14:20 PM] David Zimbeck: nobody can FUD with me there you know lol
[2014-11-09 10:14:31 PM] International Rob: lol thanks broi
[2014-11-09 10:14:36 PM] David Zimbeck: because they already respect me i can calm them all down
[2014-11-09 10:14:42 PM] International Rob: it looks better when you show up from time to time
[2014-11-09 10:14:48 PM] David Zimbeck: did you notice how Blackcoin doesnt give you guys any shit?
[2014-11-09 10:15:09 PM] International Rob: kinda
[2014-11-09 10:15:12 PM] David Zimbeck: at first they were goin nuts and now they are calm like nothing happened
[2014-11-09 10:15:24 PM] David Zimbeck: im gonna guess there is a few more of them around
[2014-11-09 10:15:34 PM] International Rob: I guess we'll see in the coming days
[2014-11-09 10:15:38 PM] David Zimbeck: that i would still have to explain busines 101 to
[2014-11-09 10:15:48 PM] International Rob: I think so too
[2014-11-09 10:15:51 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-09 10:16:12 PM] International Rob: I think a bunchg of them wil invest in bitbay actually
[2014-11-09 10:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: By the way, of course i would tell you if Crypto Asian responds
[2014-11-09 10:16:33 PM] David Zimbeck: i sent him an email he hasnt gotten back yet
[2014-11-09 10:16:39 PM] International Rob: fuck
[2014-11-09 10:16:42 PM] David Zimbeck: lol of course they will invest
[2014-11-09 10:16:42 PM] International Rob: can you bust his balls
[2014-11-09 10:16:48 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-09 10:16:49 PM] David Zimbeck: they will complain about it too
[2014-11-09 10:16:59 PM] International Rob: that's life bro
[2014-11-09 10:17:00 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-09 10:17:06 PM] David Zimbeck: lol yeha
[2014-11-09 10:17:12 PM] International Rob: I know for sure we wil be selling out sooner then anyone thinks
[2014-11-09 10:17:15 PM] International Rob: its gonna be sick
[2014-11-09 10:17:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im just trying to survive
[2014-11-09 10:17:30 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah its exciting
[2014-11-09 10:17:38 PM] David Zimbeck: so can i ask because i got confused
[2014-11-09 10:17:43 PM] David Zimbeck: how many of us are there
[2014-11-09 10:17:52 PM] David Zimbeck: you, gekko, me and steven?
[2014-11-09 10:18:32 PM] International Rob: and lin
[2014-11-09 10:18:33 PM] International Rob: yeah
[2014-11-09 10:18:38 PM] David Zimbeck: does the owner of BTER know we are splitting it
[2014-11-09 10:18:45 PM] David Zimbeck: Lin is the owner right?
[2014-11-09 10:18:49 PM] International Rob: yep
[2014-11-09 10:19:16 PM] David Zimbeck: so he already knows im partnered with you guys?
[2014-11-09 10:19:29 PM] International Rob: yes sir
[2014-11-09 10:19:34 PM] David Zimbeck: ok cool
[2014-11-09 10:19:41 PM] International Rob: he is best frineds with steven
[2014-11-09 10:19:55 PM] International Rob: like in real life
[2014-11-09 10:20:01 PM] David Zimbeck: so if it funds we all get 1/4 of 3000 BTC?
[2014-11-09 10:20:10 PM] David Zimbeck: or is it 1/5
[2014-11-09 10:20:19 PM] International Rob: its 1/5
[2014-11-09 10:20:23 PM] David Zimbeck: ok Lin
[2014-11-09 10:20:27 PM] David Zimbeck: i see from BTER
[2014-11-09 10:20:30 PM] David Zimbeck: ok ok thanks
[2014-11-09 10:20:42 PM] International Rob: and it will nbe no more then 2000 btc split because lin and I are putting in 1k between us when we are taking back
[2014-11-09 10:20:42 PM] David Zimbeck: just wanted to confirm ok thats perfectly fair
[2014-11-09 10:20:47 PM] International Rob: so we cut the left over
[2014-11-09 10:20:51 PM] David Zimbeck: ahhh ok
[2014-11-09 10:20:54 PM] David Zimbeck: cool
[2014-11-09 10:20:55 PM] David Zimbeck: thanks
[2014-11-09 10:21:18 PM] International Rob: so 2K /5 = 400 btc each
[2014-11-09 10:21:25 PM] David Zimbeck: yep im aware
[2014-11-09 10:21:27 PM] International Rob: then we put aside a fund for dev
[2014-11-09 10:21:32 PM] International Rob: like 100 btc each
[2014-11-09 10:21:33 PM] David Zimbeck: that brings me back to where i was last year
[2014-11-09 10:21:40 PM] International Rob: so 500 btc for devs set aside for now
[2014-11-09 10:21:54 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah exactly i will of course set some aside
[2014-11-09 10:21:55 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[2014-11-09 10:22:00 PM] David Zimbeck: thats why im in Cambodia
[2014-11-09 10:22:00 PM] International Rob: I'm really happy we can get you there
[2014-11-09 10:22:06 PM] David Zimbeck: paying out of pocket now...
[2014-11-09 10:22:14 PM] David Zimbeck: so fucking lovely if i can manage devs
[2014-11-09 10:22:24 PM] David Zimbeck: in that case i may have to relocate to India
[2014-11-09 10:22:25 PM] International Rob: yeah its gonna be sweet
[2014-11-09 10:22:56 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm thinking it might be worth it to pay a little bit more
[2014-11-09 10:23:07 PM] David Zimbeck: and i can have Josh from Blackcoin manage the guys here
[2014-11-09 10:23:22 PM] International Rob: Josh was talking shit about you though
[2014-11-09 10:23:23 PM] International Rob: no?
[2014-11-09 10:23:26 PM] International Rob: let me find the link
[2014-11-09 10:23:30 PM] International Rob: hold
[2014-11-09 10:23:37 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah on Bitcointalk?
[2014-11-09 10:23:46 PM] David Zimbeck: at first
[2014-11-09 10:23:58 PM] David Zimbeck: but I just called him yesterday he seems fine
[2014-11-09 10:24:16 PM] David Zimbeck: if he gossips thats another story, but let them turn green with envy
[2014-11-09 10:24:19 PM] David Zimbeck: not my problem
[2014-11-09 10:24:27 PM] International Rob: https://twitter.com/mydearvoice/status/531083573298597888/photo/1
[2014-11-09 10:24:30 PM] David Zimbeck: Blackcoin got Halo for free
[2014-11-09 10:25:04 PM] International Rob: had you seen thatÉ
[2014-11-09 10:25:10 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-09 10:25:46 PM] David Zimbeck: what is this about me not knowing blockchain technology?
[2014-11-09 10:25:56 PM] David Zimbeck: thats just dumb to say lol
[2014-11-09 10:26:08 PM] David Zimbeck: i coded my own client from scratch and its multicoin
[2014-11-09 10:26:18 PM] David Zimbeck: hmm whats the date on that?
[2014-11-09 10:26:21 PM] David Zimbeck: the 8th?
[2014-11-09 10:26:25 PM] International Rob: which is why it pisses me off to see him talking like that
[2014-11-09 10:26:32 PM] International Rob: I dnt really want him managing our devs
[2014-11-09 10:26:36 PM] International Rob: I turst you but not him
[2014-11-09 10:27:16 PM] International Rob: also....https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.140;topicseen
[2014-11-09 10:27:18 PM] International Rob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.140;topicseen
[2014-11-09 10:27:30 PM] International Rob: maybe you can answer him if we have a way to protect from gun runners
[2014-11-09 10:27:31 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-09 10:29:08 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah agreed
[2014-11-09 10:29:16 PM] David Zimbeck: i have another friend i can get to do it
[2014-11-09 10:31:52 PM] International Rob: can you answer that?
[2014-11-09 10:32:16 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah I did
[2014-11-09 10:32:34 PM] David Zimbeck: I gave Steven a picture of the flow chart
[2014-11-09 10:32:49 PM] David Zimbeck: he was supposed to find someone to photoshop it
[2014-11-09 10:34:42 PM] International Rob: can you remind him
[2014-11-09 10:34:44 PM] International Rob: please
[2014-11-09 10:48:00 PM] David Zimbeck: ok he got back with me
[2014-11-09 10:48:06 PM] International Rob: sweet
[2014-11-09 10:48:08 PM] International Rob: and....
[2014-11-09 11:36:02 PM] International Rob: Huh??
[2014-11-10 12:40:37 AM] International Rob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.msg9494300#msg9494300
[2014-11-10 12:40:58 AM] International Rob: can you please reply to that.. we need an answer from you once and for all so these people will shut up
[2014-11-10 12:41:04 AM] International Rob: we cant just keep deleting it
[2014-11-10 12:41:06 AM] International Rob: thanks bud
[2014-11-10 12:42:34 AM] David Zimbeck: ok
[2014-11-10 12:42:43 AM] International Rob: thank you so much bro
[2014-11-10 12:42:49 AM] International Rob: now we can move past that
[2014-11-10 12:42:55 AM] International Rob: that guy josh is an ass btw
[2014-11-10 12:43:10 AM] International Rob: those guys at BC need you way more then you need them
[2014-11-10 12:43:12 AM] International Rob: just saying
[2014-11-10 12:43:33 AM] David Zimbeck: dont delete that post just yey
[2014-11-10 12:43:36 AM] David Zimbeck: let me respond
[2014-11-10 12:43:40 AM] International Rob: I will
[2014-11-10 12:43:43 AM] David Zimbeck: and i will have Josh respond too
[2014-11-10 12:43:43 AM] International Rob: Im going to sleep now
[2014-11-10 12:43:47 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-10 12:43:49 AM] International Rob: awesome
[2014-11-10 12:43:56 AM] International Rob: thanks man
[2014-11-10 1:01:05 AM] David Zimbeck: boom Josh responds
[2014-11-10 1:01:07 AM] David Zimbeck: Cheesy
[2014-11-10 5:58:51 AM] International Rob: 13.5 hours till AMA.. Im getting excited!
[2014-11-10 5:58:53 AM] International Rob: :0
[2014-11-10 5:58:56 AM] International Rob: Smiley
[2014-11-10 4:29:04 PM] International Rob: t- 3 hours till ama
[2014-11-10 4:29:07 PM] International Rob: yiu ready?
[2014-11-10 4:38:34 PM] David Zimbeck: 3 hours?
[2014-11-10 4:38:37 PM] David Zimbeck: its tonight
[2014-11-10 4:38:40 PM] David Zimbeck: at 9
[2014-11-10 4:38:47 PM] David Zimbeck: ohhh 13.5
[2014-11-10 4:38:50 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[2014-11-10 4:39:09 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but 13.5 puts me at 6 o clock?
[2014-11-10 4:39:12 PM] International Rob: 3 hours
[2014-11-10 4:39:16 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-10 4:39:22 PM] David Zimbeck: 3 hours my ass
[2014-11-10 4:39:22 PM] International Rob: well 2 50
[2014-11-10 4:39:26 PM] David Zimbeck: im about to sleep
[2014-11-10 4:39:40 PM] David Zimbeck: gotta wake up at 9am for a call with investor.
[2014-11-10 4:39:49 PM] International Rob: what about tha ama
[2014-11-10 4:39:50 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-10 4:39:51 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 4:39:55 PM] David Zimbeck: its not in 3 hours
[2014-11-10 4:40:01 PM] International Rob: yeah brpo
[2014-11-10 4:40:03 PM] International Rob: it is
[2014-11-10 4:40:03 PM] David Zimbeck: its at night china time
[2014-11-10 4:40:04 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 4:40:20 PM] International Rob: nHH WE WENT OVER THIS YESTERDAY BROSKI
[2014-11-10 4:40:20 PM] International Rob: LOL
[2014-11-10 4:40:26 PM] David Zimbeck: with whom?
[2014-11-10 4:40:28 PM] David Zimbeck: not me
[2014-11-10 4:40:30 PM] International Rob: its in 3 hours
[2014-11-10 4:40:32 PM] International Rob: yeah bro
[2014-11-10 4:40:43 PM] International Rob: yesterday im like so ama un 24 hours drom now
[2014-11-10 4:40:44 PM] David Zimbeck: i would have never agreed to that time
[2014-11-10 4:40:46 PM] International Rob: you said cool
[2014-11-10 4:40:47 PM] International Rob: lololol
[2014-11-10 4:41:02 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah 24 hours is a day
[2014-11-10 4:42:10 PM] David Zimbeck: Tuesday 9 PM Ama
[2014-11-10 4:42:21 PM] David Zimbeck: thats what I have
[2014-11-10 4:42:25 PM] International Rob: [2014-11-09 7:18:01 PM] David Zimbeck: no didnt hear back
[2014-11-09 7:18:07 PM] David Zimbeck: tonight is fine for AMA
[2014-11-09 7:18:15 PM] David Zimbeck: i can do an hour
[2014-11-09 7:22:51 PM] International Rob: yeah but tonight is one day sooner then ecpected
[2014-11-09 7:23:06 PM] International Rob: I want some of my people around to get the buzz going
[2014-11-09 7:23:13 PM] International Rob: can we ren it tomorrow at the same time?
[2014-11-09 7:24:09 PM] David Zimbeck: ok tomorrow is no prob
[2014-11-09 7:24:23 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-09 7:24:29 PM] International Rob: I will get that out thjere now then
[2014-11-09 7:27:30 PM] International Rob: can I call you the project manager?
[2014-11-09 7:27:33 PM] International Rob: is that ok with you?
[2014-11-09 7:28:00 PM] International Rob: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20141110T1930&year=2014&month=11&day=10&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&msg=AMA%20with%20Mr%20David%20Zimbeck
[2014-11-09 8:02:45 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[2014-11-10 4:42:54 PM] International Rob: well the count down runds out in 2:45
[2014-11-10 4:42:58 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but the AMA was set at 9PM
[2014-11-10 4:42:59 PM] International Rob: can we make this happemn
[2014-11-10 4:43:05 PM] David Zimbeck: fuck no we wont
[2014-11-10 4:43:06 PM] International Rob: nahh look at the timer
[2014-11-10 4:43:07 PM] International Rob: lolol
[2014-11-10 4:43:13 PM] David Zimbeck: dont mess with my schedule
[2014-11-10 4:43:21 PM] International Rob: im  not trying to david
[2014-11-10 4:43:28 PM] David Zimbeck: i have 9pm written down
[2014-11-10 4:43:54 PM] International Rob: well I don't know what to say
[2014-11-10 4:43:55 PM] David Zimbeck: your countdown is the launch for the ICO
[2014-11-10 4:44:00 PM] David Zimbeck: there is a difference
[2014-11-10 4:44:05 PM] International Rob: you wanna push it up and do it now for an hour
[2014-11-10 4:44:06 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-10 4:44:07 PM] David Zimbeck: you booked me at 9pm on tuesday
[2014-11-10 4:44:25 PM] International Rob: nahh I have 2 one for the ama and one for the launch
[2014-11-10 4:44:37 PM] International Rob: and both have been tweeted from the main bitbay account
[2014-11-10 4:44:54 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah well thats when i was booked in the future, don't change my schedule without me
[2014-11-10 4:45:06 PM] David Zimbeck: my schedule is very hectic
[2014-11-10 4:45:15 PM] David Zimbeck: I have an investor im talking to at 9am
[2014-11-10 4:45:27 PM] David Zimbeck: so you want me at 8am?
[2014-11-10 4:45:36 PM] David Zimbeck: itsnt that too early for china?
[2014-11-10 4:45:40 PM] International Rob: well I dunno what time it is for you in 2:45
[2014-11-10 4:45:46 PM] International Rob: but that is when its supposed to happen
[2014-11-10 4:45:53 PM] International Rob: from what we spoke about yesterday
[2014-11-10 4:45:53 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-10 4:46:03 PM] David Zimbeck: show me where i agreed to that time
[2014-11-10 4:46:14 PM] David Zimbeck: what you posted said nothing about 9am
[2014-11-10 4:46:19 PM] David Zimbeck: or 8am
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The previous two logs were posted in the official CENSORED threwad of BAY. I post them here to preserve them and for everyone to see in case someone deletes them there. This is though just getting started. And the whole thing is proof positive of what a dirty piece of shit, scum, liar and sacammer David Zimbeck really is (We all know the kind of scumbag Borsurplus is, now we know in detail too(. And, below, a short log posted by Zimbeck, also to be preserved.

many more to come:

This is just a quick example i will get more detailed shortly.

[12/5/2014 8:40:12 AM] International Rob: hey steven
[12/5/2014 8:40:15 AM] International Rob: still around?
[12/5/2014 11:21:49 PM] David Zimbeck: Selling your coins Bob? Cheesy
[12/6/2014 1:36:09 AM] cryptosteven: everybody can sell some coins, but do not crash the market.
[12/6/2014 1:36:25 AM] cryptosteven: How is the new wallet going?
[12/6/2014 1:37:05 AM] cryptosteven: When we are ready, just post a link in this group.
[12/6/2014 1:37:08 AM] cryptosteven: Thanks
[12/6/2014 3:38:53 AM] International Rob: why is david even in this chat steven??? hes not a partner in the eyes of the crypto community... to them he is just "licensing" the halo tech.. he has said it many times already
[12/6/2014 3:39:08 AM] International Rob: and if that is the case then he owes us 350M bay and 70 btc
[12/6/2014 3:39:23 AM] International Rob: hes a cockroach steven,  I don't know why you even bother with him
[12/6/2014 3:48:04 AM] International Rob: david.. ur a dirtball... just wanted to remind you
[12/6/2014 3:48:24 AM] International Rob: and if it was just you on this coin it woulda been dead already... ur lucky I have respect for gecko and elmer and steven...
[12/6/2014 3:48:32 AM] International Rob: otherwise this would all be over already
[12/6/2014 3:50:37 AM] David Zimbeck: Bob there is something really wrong with your head
[12/6/2014 3:50:52 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt do jack shit to you
[12/6/2014 3:51:07 AM] David Zimbeck: everyone knew what i got paid except for you
[12/6/2014 3:51:48 AM] International Rob: bro eat a dick and choke on that shit... ur a lying dirtbag.... its that simple
[12/6/2014 3:51:56 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt lie to you
[12/6/2014 3:52:05 AM] International Rob: one minute ur a partner, next ur a sub contractor
[12/6/2014 3:52:17 AM] David Zimbeck: you really think this level of maturity you are showing is going to win anyone over?
[12/6/2014 3:52:17 AM] International Rob: tomorrow you'll be a mascot then a bench warmer
[12/6/2014 3:52:25 AM] David Zimbeck: it only reveals your own level of class
[12/6/2014 3:52:41 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt tell you how many coins i had
[12/6/2014 3:52:49 AM] David Zimbeck: and you continue to cry about it
[12/6/2014 3:52:54 AM] International Rob: bro you think I need to win people ober.. I got over 1M in land, like 400K in cars, watches, and cash and gold stacked
[12/6/2014 3:52:57 AM] David Zimbeck: even though i sent you a screen shot
[12/6/2014 3:53:03 AM] International Rob: i make my own rules and don't need anything from anyone
[12/6/2014 3:53:05 AM] David Zimbeck: confirming the number of coins i had
[12/6/2014 3:53:08 AM] International Rob: you do realize this right
[12/6/2014 3:53:18 AM] David Zimbeck: money doesnt buy you friends
[12/6/2014 3:53:35 AM] International Rob: i got more friends then i need and I don't need a friend like you with ur god complex
[12/6/2014 3:53:36 AM] David Zimbeck: lol i lived in hollywood worked on films and i know billionaires
[12/6/2014 3:53:41 AM] International Rob: ur a fucktard david
[12/6/2014 3:53:45 AM] David Zimbeck: some of the saddest people i know are rich
[12/6/2014 3:54:02 AM] David Zimbeck: and your money cant buy you looks, class, kindness, trust etc
[12/6/2014 3:54:09 AM] David Zimbeck: just hangers one who like you for your money
[12/6/2014 3:54:24 AM] David Zimbeck: i dont have a god complex
[12/6/2014 3:54:26 AM] David Zimbeck: you do
[12/6/2014 3:54:50 AM] David Zimbeck: you threaten steven for money all the time its low class
[12/6/2014 3:54:53 AM] International Rob: bro... when you have 40 people paying you 1K a month to "teach them how to trade" then you can talk about friends
[12/6/2014 3:54:59 AM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12/6/2014 3:55:02 AM] International Rob: nahh bro.. its not a threat
[12/6/2014 3:55:08 AM] International Rob: it was what was needed at the times
[12/6/2014 3:55:11 AM] International Rob: anyway
[12/6/2014 3:55:17 AM] David Zimbeck: you have some people who dont like you in that group of 40
[12/6/2014 3:55:32 AM] David Zimbeck: cause i got like 5 messages from your group the instant the project started
[12/6/2014 3:55:34 AM] International Rob: shut the fuck up kid.. ur a nobody and just thank god thart there are other people involved in this




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December 12, 2014, 03:59:41 AM
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Zimbeck again:

[12/5/2014 12:49:29 PM] International Rob: bro
[12/5/2014 12:49:31 PM] International Rob: im pissed
[12/5/2014 12:49:38 PM] International Rob: I ncant voice chat my girl is sleeping
[12/5/2014 12:49:43 PM] International Rob: but we can chat here all you wish
[12/5/2014 12:49:43 PM] David Zimbeck: you shouldnt be in business if you get angry so easy
[12/5/2014 12:50:46 PM] International Rob: all im saying is that ur playing both sides and its time to pick one.. you wanna "licence" ur tech to bitbay, find.. send us back 350M bay and 70btc... keep the 100 like we discussed.... and you go on ur way.. or ur a partner.. you keep the coins and you start acting and talking like a partner
[12/5/2014 12:51:45 PM] International Rob: enough is enough bro,... we been talking about this for weeks.. now I come back and see more of ypu talking about the money helping blackcoin, and you just licencing to bitbay
[12/5/2014 12:51:51 PM] International Rob: cant have it both ways
[12/5/2014 12:52:21 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12/5/2014 12:52:32 PM] David Zimbeck: you are still trying to get more btc?
[12/5/2014 12:52:52 PM] David Zimbeck: dont give me ultimatums
[12/5/2014 12:53:28 PM] David Zimbeck: im never speaking about money with you
[12/5/2014 12:53:29 PM] David Zimbeck: ever
[12/5/2014 12:53:50 PM] David Zimbeck: we can talk business, pushing the coin
[12/5/2014 12:53:54 PM] David Zimbeck: we can talk progress
[12/5/2014 12:53:56 PM] David Zimbeck: whatever
[12/5/2014 12:54:12 PM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12/5/2014 12:54:14 PM] David Zimbeck: you wanna be a partner? make your name public
[12/5/2014 12:54:16 PM] International Rob: ur a joke....
[12/5/2014 12:54:18 PM] International Rob: big time
[12/5/2014 12:54:19 PM] David Zimbeck: or i will do it for you
[12/5/2014 12:54:21 PM] International Rob: you cant code for shit
[12/5/2014 12:54:25 PM] International Rob: even steven knows it
[12/5/2014 12:54:31 PM] David Zimbeck: i cant? lol
[12/5/2014 12:54:35 PM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12/5/2014 12:54:35 PM] David Zimbeck: i coded Halo alone
[12/5/2014 12:54:36 PM] International Rob: you cant
[12/5/2014 12:54:58 PM] International Rob: good for you.. you may be a one hit wonder but ur not gonna play me on this coin bro
[12/5/2014 12:55:03 PM] International Rob: you understand that right
[12/5/2014 12:55:04 PM] International Rob: ?
[12/5/2014 12:55:08 PM] David Zimbeck: im not playing you
[12/5/2014 12:55:10 PM] David Zimbeck: im just coding
[12/5/2014 12:55:17 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont care about you
[12/5/2014 12:55:34 PM] International Rob: ok bro
[12/5/2014 12:55:40 PM] International Rob: enjoy ur coin dude
[12/5/2014 12:55:42 PM] International Rob: laterz
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EVERYONE SAY HELLO TO GEKKO WHO THREATENED ME ONE MORE THAN ONE OCCASION

AND MEET STEVEN AND LIN THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PAY BACK INTO THE PROJECT.

[12/6/2014 4:06:05 PM] linhan.ee: Yes I see some trouble in our group recently. Steven is a very nice guy. He wants to keep everybody happy
[12/6/2014 4:07:47 PM] linhan.ee: He used his own (including mine) coins (BTC and BAY) to handle this
[12/6/2014 4:07:57 PM] linhan.ee: I believe him
[12/6/2014 4:08:02 PM] linhan.ee: he is so nice
[12/6/2014 4:08:13 PM] linhan.ee: he just wants this to be a successful project
[12/6/2014 4:08:28 PM] cryptosteven: sorry for my inexperienced on Project manager. just back to airport now.
[12/6/2014 4:09:07 PM] linhan.ee: Steven, I am glad you're back. Hopefully you have had a wonderful trip
[12/6/2014 4:09:53 PM] cryptosteven: thanks lin.
[12/6/2014 4:12:31 PM] linhan.ee: guess we need to work things out and keep this project well going. This is really a wonderful project and we had a perfect start. we should't be beaten by ourselves
[12/6/2014 4:13:18 PM] Gekko: With the attitude and lack of listening / cooperation. I think it's clear to see the destiny of this coin.
[12/6/2014 4:15:19 PM] Gekko: There are only a few crucial elements we needed to be a success. I've made it clear some our meeting, and those items continue to be denied. My hands are tied, I can only wait and see how the other partners step up now.
[12/6/2014 4:15:22 PM] linhan.ee: We could get much more if we cooperate together
[12/6/2014 4:17:21 PM] linhan.ee: David, I am glad you are also here
[12/6/2014 4:17:29 PM] David Zimbeck: ive been trying my best
[12/6/2014 4:17:34 PM] David Zimbeck: thats why i set up a Trello
[12/6/2014 4:17:36 PM] cryptosteven: we should cooperate together to make this be a success.
[12/6/2014 4:17:43 PM] David Zimbeck: and begged everyone to help me hire
[12/6/2014 4:17:45 PM] cryptosteven: how is the test going?
[12/6/2014 4:17:58 PM] David Zimbeck: the tests were done last night by 3 of my guys
[12/6/2014 4:18:05 PM] David Zimbeck: there should not have been any delays
[12/6/2014 4:18:11 PM] cryptosteven: should we release this to community today?
[12/6/2014 4:18:15 PM] cryptosteven: or need more test?
[12/6/2014 4:18:16 PM] David Zimbeck: of course
[12/6/2014 4:18:28 PM] linhan.ee: David, maybe I can help since I have company and I can hire more people
[12/6/2014 4:18:37 PM] David Zimbeck: lin that would be wonderful
[12/6/2014 4:18:38 PM] cryptosteven: or we can have a pubic test for community
[12/6/2014 4:18:47 PM] David Zimbeck: so far ive only been asking steven and gekko
[12/6/2014 4:18:53 PM] David Zimbeck: i realize they are both busy
[12/6/2014 4:19:14 PM] David Zimbeck: you are right about Steven, Lin
[12/6/2014 4:19:21 PM] David Zimbeck: he is a wonderful person and so kind
[12/6/2014 4:19:22 PM] linhan.ee: I know but if you can let me know the reqired skills, I can hire someone to do works
[12/6/2014 4:19:24 PM] David Zimbeck: maybe too kind
[12/6/2014 4:19:39 PM] David Zimbeck: i want someone who is very skilled in c++
[12/6/2014 4:19:48 PM] David Zimbeck: for non-python tasks
[12/6/2014 4:19:55 PM] David Zimbeck: and perhaps a project manager
[12/6/2014 4:20:06 PM] David Zimbeck: if they know bitcoin logic its a big plus
[12/6/2014 4:20:17 PM] linhan.ee: that's even better. people know more about c++ than python here in my city
[12/6/2014 4:20:45 PM] linhan.ee: the bad news is that they don't know bitconi logic at the beginning
[12/6/2014 4:20:49 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah i mean i can do most of the python myself
[12/6/2014 4:21:09 PM] David Zimbeck: if they dont, its ok lets just say if they are a master coder that works fast
[12/6/2014 4:21:12 PM] David Zimbeck: thats what matters
[12/6/2014 4:21:23 PM] David Zimbeck: their strengths should be in logic and debugging
[12/6/2014 4:22:01 PM] David Zimbeck: there is obvious issues with the new blackcoind source first of all
[12/6/2014 4:22:21 PM] David Zimbeck: it doesnt build well for windows. Sadly, the new build flubber sent doesnt work
[12/6/2014 4:22:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i need someone full time
[12/6/2014 4:22:34 PM] David Zimbeck: as of right now, im paying out of pocket
[12/6/2014 4:23:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my devs in cambodia are still learning luckily they are cheap about 150-500 per month per dev
[12/6/2014 4:23:22 PM] linhan.ee: It will take time for hiring a proper dev but I hired one guy for other thing and he is coming the next week. I can let him work on your job first but I am not sure if he can do it well since he needs time to learn bitcoin codes
[12/6/2014 4:23:34 PM] David Zimbeck: and i have one friend in the usa who will start work soon
[12/6/2014 4:23:46 PM] David Zimbeck: he is doing a big favor for us and working below minimum wage
[12/6/2014 4:24:06 PM] David Zimbeck: i can teach him
[12/6/2014 4:24:11 PM] David Zimbeck: a few hours a day
[12/6/2014 4:24:25 PM] linhan.ee: great. My guy is a skilled Qt dev. I will let him work on it next week
[12/6/2014 4:24:35 PM] David Zimbeck: it benefits me greatly to have more people who can do these things
[12/6/2014 4:25:01 PM] David Zimbeck: its crazy even with devs my workload got bigger not less
[12/6/2014 4:25:11 PM] David Zimbeck: because ive got to train them
[12/6/2014 4:25:17 PM] linhan.ee: That's right
[12/6/2014 4:25:26 PM] linhan.ee: I used to have the seem feeling Cheesy
[12/6/2014 4:25:30 PM] David Zimbeck: and they havent even touched my main code
[12/6/2014 4:25:32 PM] David Zimbeck: "D
[12/6/2014 4:25:35 PM] David Zimbeck: ')
[12/6/2014 4:25:38 PM] David Zimbeck: Smiley
[12/6/2014 4:26:00 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven saw the code for himself yesterday lol
[12/6/2014 4:26:10 PM] linhan.ee: only if you got a very skilled person who can work independently very well
[12/6/2014 4:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: its not easy to find
[12/6/2014 4:26:35 PM] linhan.ee: yes, it's very hard
[12/6/2014 4:26:41 PM] David Zimbeck: coindesk even had an article on this... how companies have money but no coders
[12/6/2014 4:26:44 PM] linhan.ee: we both have the experiences
[12/6/2014 4:27:02 PM] David Zimbeck: http://www.coindesk.com/bridging-talent-gap-bitcoin-industry/
[12/6/2014 4:27:19 PM] David Zimbeck: i think people underestimate how rare coders like you and i actually are
[12/6/2014 4:27:28 PM] linhan.ee: it's easy to find a coder but very hard to find a skilled one Sad
[12/6/2014 4:27:39 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah and one who works fast
[12/6/2014 4:27:50 PM] David Zimbeck: because skill is meaningless if they cant hit a deadline
[12/6/2014 4:28:02 PM] linhan.ee: yes the one who can do things independently
[12/6/2014 4:28:03 PM] David Zimbeck: my coders are so slow i just do their work for them when my time frees up
[12/6/2014 4:28:14 PM] David Zimbeck: its already happened 3 times and with really easy tasks too
[12/6/2014 4:29:00 PM] linhan.ee: yes, I know one core coder can be 10x faster than a normal coder and do things much better
[12/6/2014 4:29:14 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah now i know why the job pays to much
[12/6/2014 4:29:28 PM] David Zimbeck: its what makes me curious about India
[12/6/2014 4:29:35 PM] David Zimbeck: i think Cambodia wasnt the best choice
[12/6/2014 4:29:50 PM] David Zimbeck: i did not realize this is not the field where saving money is the best strategy
[12/6/2014 4:30:21 PM] David Zimbeck: if one is to outsource they need to pull from the most popular and skilled destinations
[12/6/2014 4:30:44 PM] David Zimbeck: but india might be tricky too, since there are billions of people who knows what you will find
[12/6/2014 4:30:52 PM] David Zimbeck: im interviewing a team out there
[12/6/2014 4:31:14 PM] David Zimbeck: what actually concerns me right now, is the devs funds are very low and im forced to work on a shoe string budget
[12/6/2014 4:31:33 PM] David Zimbeck: already half of it has been eaten and none of it for developement
[12/6/2014 4:31:57 PM] linhan.ee: Yes, I know. we don't have much dev funds left. I will try my best to let my guys do some work for you
[12/6/2014 4:32:07 PM] David Zimbeck: thanks Lin
[12/6/2014 4:32:18 PM] linhan.ee: one week later, I will let the Qt guy work on this project
[12/6/2014 4:32:34 PM] linhan.ee: I will pay him by myself at the beginning
[12/6/2014 4:32:37 PM] David Zimbeck: if things get too tight i can even come out there
[12/6/2014 4:32:47 PM] David Zimbeck: and visit you and Steven in China
[12/6/2014 4:33:00 PM] David Zimbeck: are you also from
[12/6/2014 4:33:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Shanghai?
[12/6/2014 4:33:12 PM] linhan.ee: I am not far from Shanghai
[12/6/2014 4:33:21 PM] linhan.ee: I can go to Shanghai if necessory
[12/6/2014 4:33:33 PM] David Zimbeck: well i can go anywhere
[12/6/2014 4:33:35 PM] linhan.ee: but I don't think it will solve these issues
[12/6/2014 4:33:40 PM] David Zimbeck: when i say im going to do something, i do it
[12/6/2014 4:33:57 PM] David Zimbeck: price is never going to deter me
[12/6/2014 4:33:58 PM] linhan.ee: we still need to find proper devs
[12/6/2014 4:34:18 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah well worst case scenario i can do all the c++ work myself
[12/6/2014 4:34:26 PM] David Zimbeck: it just means people wait longer for pegging
[12/6/2014 4:34:39 PM] linhan.ee: thanks for your great work
[12/6/2014 4:34:52 PM] linhan.ee:  Let's work together on the dev first
[12/6/2014 4:35:18 PM] linhan.ee: to releae your work load a little bit
[12/6/2014 4:35:23 PM] David Zimbeck: ok sure, whoever you find as long as they are fast and talented, i can teach them whatever they need to know
[12/6/2014 4:35:23 PM] linhan.ee: if not add Cheesy
[12/6/2014 4:35:43 PM] David Zimbeck: i can always take on more work man
[12/6/2014 4:36:02 PM] linhan.ee: I don't want to add more workload. If you have some materials on the dev, you can let me know.
[12/6/2014 4:36:12 PM] linhan.ee: I will let him read and learn by himself
[12/6/2014 4:36:16 PM] David Zimbeck: well
[12/6/2014 4:36:22 PM] David Zimbeck: thats why a project manager would be good
[12/6/2014 4:36:32 PM] David Zimbeck: someone who is good with logic, management and flow charts
[12/6/2014 4:36:57 PM] David Zimbeck: someone who has managed coding teams before and knows exactly how to describe the logical flow of code
[12/6/2014 4:37:02 PM] David Zimbeck: and organize coders on git
[12/6/2014 4:37:21 PM] David Zimbeck: those would be the two key people that would help greatly
[12/6/2014 4:38:31 PM | Edited 4:38:56 PM] linhan.ee: Yes I am doing these work everyday on other projects of my company but I really don't have enough energy on this dev work and I don't have much experence in bitcoin core
[12/6/2014 4:39:07 PM] David Zimbeck: hmm
[12/6/2014 4:39:23 PM] linhan.ee: It's also too hard to find a new guy to do this
[12/6/2014 4:39:30 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah im just saying a project manager could also help me find more coders
[12/6/2014 4:39:41 PM] linhan.ee: that's right
[12/6/2014 4:39:49 PM] linhan.ee: but I can still help you to find coders
[12/6/2014 4:39:54 PM] David Zimbeck: the reason they have to be in China or India or Cambodia is because of the price
[12/6/2014 4:40:17 PM] linhan.ee: I have a manager in my company and he helps me to find coders all the time
[12/6/2014 4:42:36 PM] linhan.ee: OK, so we have some agreements and I will help to find more coders and I will let one of my guy work on the dev work (windows wallet). I will pay him at the beginning until he can really do something for this project
[12/6/2014 4:43:17 PM] David Zimbeck: ok thanks Lin
[12/6/2014 4:43:30 PM] David Zimbeck: if you need to get a hold of me, im always here
[12/6/2014 4:43:47 PM] linhan.ee: Thanks. No problem.
[12/6/2014 4:44:19 PM] linhan.ee: Steven, since we will have more devs work together. would you please create a new group for the devs?
[12/6/2014 4:47:06 PM] cryptosteven: yes we can have a group for coding people, and a group for marking people, gekko have setted a group for marketing and website.
[12/6/2014 4:48:02 PM] linhan.ee: great idea. that's more professional
[12/6/2014 5:11:05 PM] Gekko: There already has been a group for devs. That's where Flubber has helped me make everything remotely possible.
[12/6/2014 5:15:08 PM] cryptosteven: we can ask more coder join that group later.
[12/6/2014 5:16:18 PM] Gekko: Sure, but it won't be with David. My programmers know his capabilities (or lack thereof)
[12/6/2014 5:16:27 PM] David Zimbeck: excuse me?
[12/6/2014 5:16:37 PM] Gekko: Read up
[12/6/2014 5:16:45 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko you got a fucking problem?
[12/6/2014 5:16:51 PM] Gekko: Yes
[12/6/2014 5:16:54 PM] Gekko: You
[12/6/2014 5:16:58 PM] David Zimbeck: why you always have a bug up your ass?
[12/6/2014 5:17:15 PM] Gekko: You're done "genius"
[12/6/2014 5:17:23 PM] David Zimbeck: excuse me???
[12/6/2014 5:17:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i just released your windows wallet you little monkey
[12/6/2014 5:17:44 PM] Gekko: You're not worth anymore of my time
[12/6/2014 5:17:57 PM] Gekko: I'll laugh as I burn you alive
[12/6/2014 5:18:01 PM] Gekko: Adios
[12/6/2014 5:18:02 PM] David Zimbeck: i didnt do jack shit to you
[12/6/2014 5:18:18 PM] David Zimbeck: you and Bob are really bad people
[12/6/2014 5:19:14 PM] Gekko: I'm the king of the monkey's. Su wa kong.
[12/6/2014 5:20:11 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko you are like a girl
[12/6/2014 5:20:25 PM] David Zimbeck: all you know how to do is call names and make threats
[12/6/2014 5:20:46 PM] David Zimbeck: you are just like your friend Bob all you two do is ask for money from everyone
[12/6/2014 5:22:50 PM] Gekko: Want a tiny violin?
[12/6/2014 5:23:47 PM] Gekko: Watch and take a few lessons on what it takes to do business.
[12/6/2014 5:24:02 PM] David Zimbeck: it takes EMPLOYEES
[12/6/2014 5:24:06 PM] David Zimbeck: and CAPITAL
[12/6/2014 5:24:18 PM] David Zimbeck: not threats and stupidity
[12/6/2014 5:24:18 PM] Gekko: Lulz
[12/6/2014 5:25:14 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko, if i pull my support for this project and discuss what you and Bob are doing, there is no project
[12/6/2014 5:25:40 PM] Gekko: Please
[12/6/2014 5:25:52 PM] Gekko: Do it now
[12/6/2014 5:26:28 PM] David Zimbeck: I think from now on, all discussions about Bay should simply exlude you and Bob
[12/6/2014 5:28:53 PM] Gekko: Ok, make me more $
[12/6/2014 5:29:04 PM] Gekko: Go away worm
[12/6/2014 5:29:29 PM] David Zimbeck: make you more money how?
[12/6/2014 5:29:51 PM] David Zimbeck: Brilliant decision hiring these guy Steven
[12/6/2014 5:30:04 PM] Gekko: I know your very smart.. try to think for a second
[12/6/2014 5:30:07 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm sorry but for you to allow this behavior and say nothing is not helpful
[12/6/2014 5:30:25 PM] David Zimbeck: why because you and Bob have coins?
[12/6/2014 5:30:36 PM] Gekko: Did it hurt?
[12/6/2014 5:31:01 PM] David Zimbeck: no of course nothing you say or do can hurt me
[12/6/2014 5:31:18 PM] David Zimbeck: you are just a little punk
[12/6/2014 5:31:32 PM] David Zimbeck: if you were in mexico talking to my face like this you would have been hurt bad
[12/6/2014 5:31:56 PM] David Zimbeck: you are god damn lucky both you and bob that you have not met me in person
[12/6/2014 5:32:31 PM] Gekko: As funny as it is to fuck with your ego, I've got other fish to fry. It's been a pleasure to rape you. Glad I could make a few bucks on your head
[12/6/2014 5:32:50 PM] David Zimbeck: good fuck off
[12/6/2014 5:32:51 PM] Gekko: Good luck repairing your image / name
[12/6/2014 5:33:02 PM] David Zimbeck: Lin and BTER are here
[12/6/2014 5:33:09 PM] Gekko: Lol
[12/6/2014 5:33:13 PM] Gekko: And?
[12/6/2014 5:33:30 PM] David Zimbeck: they will continue to work
[12/6/2014 5:33:36 PM] cryptosteven: no need to quarrel with each other. i really do not like this.
[12/6/2014 5:33:44 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven, no this is going to end here
[12/6/2014 5:34:41 PM] Gekko: I just think it's funny
[12/6/2014 5:34:42 PM] Gekko: You're right David, nobody will ever trust you again
[12/6/2014 5:34:54 PM] Gekko: Thanks for letting me use your name. Watch now as I destroy you
[12/6/2014 5:34:57 PM] cryptosteven: if we do not like each other, just leave peacefully. do not hurt anyone. we worked together before.
[12/6/2014 5:35:00 PM] David Zimbeck: lol go ahead
[12/6/2014 5:35:06 PM] Gekko: K
[12/6/2014 5:35:46 PM] David Zimbeck: You cant threaten me its obvious you have nothing better to do
[12/6/2014 5:36:09 PM] Gekko: No threat, only action now
[12/6/2014 5:36:38 PM] David Zimbeck: go ahead
[12/6/2014 5:36:44 PM] Gekko: I've been waiting for this moment
[12/6/2014 5:36:48 PM] David Zimbeck: pay your little fud team dump your coins
[12/6/2014 5:37:19 PM] Gekko: Coins don't matter. I'll have fun showing the truth.
[12/6/2014 5:37:43 PM] Gekko: Laughing as I smear you like the cockroach you are
[12/6/2014 5:38:03 PM] David Zimbeck: and i did NOTHING to you
[12/6/2014 5:38:05 PM] David Zimbeck: for the record
[12/6/2014 5:38:12 PM] David Zimbeck: so the only cockroach is you
[12/6/2014 5:38:20 PM] David Zimbeck: you are lucky i dont send someone to Taipei
[12/6/2014 5:38:47 PM] Gekko: You thought your rep was in trouble before. Now you will bleed out
[12/6/2014 5:38:53 PM] Gekko: Lol
[12/6/2014 5:39:00 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont care about my rep
[12/6/2014 5:39:09 PM] David Zimbeck: you think its some sort of threat
[12/6/2014 5:39:10 PM] Gekko: I know your sisters name
[12/6/2014 5:39:14 PM] David Zimbeck: who cares
[12/6/2014 5:39:18 PM] Gekko: I have your parents
[12/6/2014 5:39:23 PM] David Zimbeck: so what
[12/6/2014 5:39:44 PM] Gekko: You can only hope to shut your mouth now
[12/6/2014 5:39:59 PM] David Zimbeck: no i dont respond to threats from assholes like you
[12/6/2014 5:40:32 PM] Gekko: Ok, your words will be more than your own demise now
[12/6/2014 5:46:09 PM] Gekko: I have a lot of planning to do now. Adios.
[12/6/2014 5:46:16 PM] *** Gekko has left ***
[12/6/2014 5:46:55 PM] David Zimbeck: Bob its your turn to leave
[12/6/2014 10:24:52 PM] International Rob: steven, lin.... the only way this will work is if you put your doggy david in a cage and just let him out when its needed
[12/6/2014 10:25:09 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko left
[12/6/2014 10:25:17 PM] International Rob: I cant deal with people who are so two faced
[12/6/2014 10:25:19 PM] David Zimbeck: you arent part of the project either
[12/6/2014 10:25:28 PM] International Rob: ohh im not?Huh
[12/6/2014 10:25:30 PM] International Rob: im out???
[12/6/2014 10:25:32 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[12/6/2014 10:25:33 PM] David Zimbeck: nope go
[12/6/2014 10:25:34 PM] International Rob: laterz
[12/6/2014 10:37:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Lin, Steven, can you both please leave this thread?
[12/6/2014 10:37:12 PM] David Zimbeck: and then i will
[12/6/2014 10:46:12 PM | Edited 10:46:36 PM] linhan.ee: let's close this thread. it's harmful but not useful now
[12/6/2014 10:46:29 PM] David Zimbeck: how to do that?
[12/6/2014 10:46:55 PM] International Rob: lin
[12/6/2014 10:47:18 PM] International Rob: you don't have any problems with david being a partner to us but to everyone else hes just being paid for his tech
[12/6/2014 10:47:23 PM] International Rob: is that not a problem for you
[12/6/2014 10:47:24 PM] International Rob: ?
[12/6/2014 10:47:42 PM] linhan.ee: pleave leave me private messages
[12/6/2014 10:47:47 PM] David Zimbeck: Bob its just as reason for you to ask for 70BTC and for Gekko to threaten me
[12/6/2014 10:48:01 PM] *** linhan.ee has left ***
[12/6/2014 10:48:14 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko already threatened me the thread is over
[12/6/2014 10:48:24 PM] International Rob: okk bro
[12/6/2014 10:48:27 PM] International Rob: later
[12/6/2014 10:48:28 PM] David Zimbeck: and somebody tried posting personal info of mine on a forum
[12/6/2014 10:48:37 PM] David Zimbeck: it got immediately deleted
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December 12, 2014, 04:08:34 AM
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Barrabas you tried to scam this kid clearly... lmao, i read the original post David straight said these guys are licensing his software for a fee... a large fee... I'd do it too... lmfao. Thing is too, David posted a hiring ad for developers yesterday on Twitter, linkedin and a few other places C++ coders to develop on bitbay.. So why's is he trying to help and you're not?! He doesn;t even owe anything more he already built a smart contract client for it.. Lame Barabbaas... real lame
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GET THAT ASSHOLE BARABBAS OUT OF CRYPTO FOR GOOD
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December 12, 2014, 04:15:45 AM
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There's indeed much more coming. But from reading the above, anyone can easily figure out who David Zimbeck is and contribute to make crypto a place where there's no space for the kind of shit, scams and lies that he brings. Again, everyone knew what kind of scammy bastard Bobsurplus and his partner, Gekko, are. There's no secret there. Everyone also knows their real names too, so to say that avoiding them like the worst plague is what everyone should do is saying almost nothing comp[ared with the scope of their actions now exposed. They ARE already hard at work in their new scam, so be sure to keep an eye and run away at the very first hint. These are all scumbags, so stay away if you don't want to get burned. And, if you think the worst possible \scenario, chances are ylou will be more right than wronmg in crypto in general. Sad, but corroborated again and again.

Now the big problem is Zimbec k though, because he is a pathological liar and by the nature of Alts, he's bound to be believed by a few people no matter how evident his lies and scams. Nothing that can be done about that, unfortunately. But, after this, hopefully everyone with a minimal brain and common sense will put this piece of shit individual out of the crypto business where he had no place to begin with.

It would be nice to hear from the scammed that chose to remind blind all along while I was posting again and again what was so obvious to me and to many others, and that not only were in denial but were quite offensive, some kind of apology... maybe even a thank here and there.

Fat chance ah?

Such is the nature of the individuals involved.

Oh well... Karma tends to catch on.
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December 12, 2014, 06:38:43 AM
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Zimbeck the Turd:

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December 12, 2014, 11:14:36 AM
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So Barabbas what is your role in that scam ?

edit: do we really care about all the internal problem in blackcoin mafia ?

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blablabla..

...go get a life, baraccas scum loser!  Roll Eyes
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December 12, 2014, 12:38:10 PM
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Good .. let these scammers eat each other for profit and greed.

Give the Altcoin section 3 more months and there will be blood all over their shitcoins.
the only thing I hope is that if I ever work on a new coin, I won't end up working with  morons and nut case like these. I am not good with children (and children behavior, especially coming from adult) and I am not sure 100btc paycheck would be enough for me to endure all the crap they put to each other  Grin

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It is hilarious to reed those conversations posted. I don't think investors are laughing though...
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December 12, 2014, 01:53:21 PM
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From the outside (I never throw my money at unvetted anons) It looks to me like DAVID ZIMBECK must complete the project he was paid for and then the scammed investors should take over the project. The basic Idea is sound.

Nothing to do but make lemonade from lemons and maybe a little behind the scenes revenge. Personally I can travel anywhere to take care of business if I ever get taken, but I'm not moronic enough to invest without due diligence.

As a side note I'm glad to hear Bobs scamming group all got shafted. They are not needed around here. I hope they band together and find him, but they are just a bunch of mini-bobs with no balls and dreams of stealing from a scene that should be changing the face of the planet. To bad they are so stupid they don't realize they are doing the banking systems job for them. RETARDS ALL. Open your eyes fools for a small profit you destroy a scene that could set you free from the system that your trying to change. These people just have no foresight. Very low IQ's all.

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To bad they are so stupid they don't realize they are doing the banking systems job for them. RETARDS ALL. Open your eyes fools for a small profit you destroy a scene that could set you free from the system that your trying to change. These people just have no foresight. Very low IQ's all.
I think you got it wrong Hueristic. They are not here to change the system. They don't even care about the system, they are here just to milk money from the naive people who invest where they think all the other people are investing, instead of doing their own homework. No point in crying over spilt milk now..
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To bad they are so stupid they don't realize they are doing the banking systems job for them. RETARDS ALL. Open your eyes fools for a small profit you destroy a scene that could set you free from the system that your trying to change. These people just have no foresight. Very low IQ's all.
I think you got it wrong Hueristic. They are not here to change the system. They don't even care about the system, they are here just to milk money from the naive people who invest where they think all the other people are investing, instead of doing their own homework. No point in crying over spilt milk now..
+1 they just abuse the system... (and gullibility of people around... is this really crime ? Grin because being as naïve as some are should be considered as a crime too... especially as it is driven by greed too...)

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To bad they are so stupid they don't realize they are doing the banking systems job for them. RETARDS ALL. Open your eyes fools for a small profit you destroy a scene that could set you free from the system that your trying to change. These people just have no foresight. Very low IQ's all.
I think you got it wrong Hueristic. They are not here to change the system. They don't even care about the system, they are here just to milk money from the naive people who invest where they think all the other people are investing, instead of doing their own homework. No point in crying over spilt milk now..
+1 they just abuse the system... (and gullibility of people around... is this really crime ? Grin because being as naïve as some are should be considered as a crime too... especially as it is driven by greed too...)
Exactly!

They knew that they can rely on people beeing greedy and that is why they pumped 500 or so of their own BTC in, so people would think "I have to hop on that bandwagon too".

It is not a crime to rely on people beeing greedy or naive, but claiming one thing while doing something completely different sure is fishy.
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December 12, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
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To bad they are so stupid they don't realize they are doing the banking systems job for them. RETARDS ALL. Open your eyes fools for a small profit you destroy a scene that could set you free from the system that your trying to change. These people just have no foresight. Very low IQ's all.
I think you got it wrong Hueristic. They are not here to change the system. They don't even care about the system, they are here just to milk money from the naive people who invest where they think all the other people are investing, instead of doing their own homework. No point in crying over spilt milk now..
+1 they just abuse the system... (and gullibility of people around... is this really crime ? Grin because being as naïve as some are should be considered as a crime too... especially as it is driven by greed too...)
Exactly!

They knew that they can rely on people beeing greedy and that is why they pumped 500 or so of their own BTC in, so people would think "I have to hop on that bandwagon too".

It is not a crime to rely on people beeing greedy or naive, but claiming one thing while doing something completely different sure is fishy.

So where is the proof that BTER used Phantom BTC to pump?

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This is posted above:

[2014-11-03 3:07:56 AM] linhan.ee: Lin
[2014-11-03 1:38:58 PM] *** International Rob has shared contact details with linhan.ee. ***
[2014-11-05 11:06:03 AM] *** Call to linhan.ee, duration 13:43. ***
[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address
[2014-11-11 9:39:31 AM] linhan.ee: got it thanks
[2014-11-11 9:41:10 AM] linhan.ee: one thing concerns me. We promise people to release funds after ICO. If you expose this address with transactions later to people, they will know we release the funds early
[2014-11-11 9:41:29 AM] International Rob: no the address is new and no one will know it
[2014-11-11 9:41:35 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 9:41:48 AM] International Rob: the btc are being used to help pumop the price.. buy more coins and set support as well
[2014-11-11 9:41:58 AM] linhan.ee: so don't expose it
[2014-11-11 9:41:59 AM] International Rob: Its not my first ICO or coin eh

[2014-11-11 9:42:02 AM] International Rob: you do know this
[2014-11-11 9:42:03 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-11 9:42:10 AM] International Rob: I have a few coins under my belt
[2014-11-11 9:42:12 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:28 AM] International Rob: Gekko really got a good vibe from you
[2014-11-11 9:42:31 AM] International Rob: by the way
[2014-11-11 9:42:35 AM] International Rob: he is my right hand brother
[2014-11-11 9:42:43 AM] International Rob: what he said is gold
[2014-11-11 9:42:46 AM] International Rob: you are a good man
[2014-11-11 9:43:01 AM] linhan.ee: thanks Smiley
[2014-11-11 9:43:31 AM] linhan.ee: Let me know have much your team has  invested.
[2014-11-11 9:43:40 AM] linhan.ee: I will send you some BTC before I sleep
[2014-11-11 9:44:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:44:25 AM] International Rob: it will be over 500 for sure
[2014-11-11 9:44:42 AM] International Rob: we alredy are in for well over 400.... just one guy bought 100
[2014-11-11 9:44:43 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-11 9:45:02 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really fast
[2014-11-11 9:45:08 AM] linhan.ee: 1 hour 400 btc
[2014-11-11 9:45:11 AM] International Rob: but we have a excel spread sheat and as they buy they add the info to the sheat
[2014-11-11 9:45:20 AM] International Rob: I know
[2014-11-11 9:45:42 AM] International Rob: well you know we have had people waiting with new accounts on bter waiting for this morning
[2014-11-11 9:45:48 AM] International Rob: and this is just the start
[2014-11-11 9:45:57 AM] International Rob: we have not even gone crazy on twitter yet
[2014-11-11 9:46:08 AM] International Rob: we are record breakers
[2014-11-11 9:46:10 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really impressive
[2014-11-11 9:46:14 AM] International Rob: and this wil be one more record
[2014-11-11 9:47:08 AM] linhan.ee: yes, and we even haven't started to invest ours lol
[2014-11-11 9:48:59 AM] International Rob: lol I know
[2014-11-11 9:49:11 AM] International Rob: that why I told you for sure this would be amazing
[2014-11-11 9:49:33 AM] International Rob: its easy when you do the math right and work with pros
[2014-11-11 9:49:38 AM] International Rob: you my friend are a pro
[2014-11-11 9:49:40 AM] linhan.ee: it's amazing. professional team and good job
[2014-11-11 9:49:43 AM] International Rob: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:12 AM] linhan.ee: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:23 AM] International Rob: Thank man
[2014-11-11 9:50:29 AM] International Rob: I enjoy working with you
[2014-11-11 9:50:39 AM] International Rob: I know this project is just the begining
[2014-11-11 9:51:00 AM] linhan.ee: that's right. we can do a lot in the future together
[2014-11-11 9:53:25 AM] International Rob: Im serious though lin... we can take this coi n to the moon all 2015
[2014-11-11 9:53:32 AM] International Rob: I plan on making 1M on it
[2014-11-11 9:54:39 AM] linhan.ee: Right. This is the best coin in the cryto-world near the end of 2014
[2014-11-11 9:57:09 AM] International Rob: yeas and it will be the clear leader for 2015
[2014-11-11 10:12:06 AM] linhan.ee: 0.01btc has been sent to your address, txid= ac0b1a00de78a488e2fa202959dc6d6dda070d6cdc44a2a63a4183ea77446906
[2014-11-11 10:12:19 AM] linhan.ee: when you received it, please let me know
[2014-11-11 10:17:53 AM] International Rob: got it
[2014-11-11 10:19:00 AM | Edited 10:19:04 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 10:19:14 AM] linhan.ee: sending  500
[2014-11-11 10:19:32 AM] International Rob: ok will comnfirm
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 500 in 3 transactions:
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 0ecfe52a2c9a6913a81ef82c09c47a27d5867b95b9abc73bbbd51d2a65ba4819
[2014-11-11 10:20:56 AM] linhan.ee: e786e93003c29f261189b813cafe2fd4bcac1c937128781988378622a83929d8
[2014-11-11 10:21:01 AM] International Rob: wow
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] linhan.ee: 80053c4138dd8a5d4cda1cc5cefa86bf3e1fd5b9bd6a181e74ac5af4740542cf
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] International Rob: that was fast
[2014-11-11 10:21:05 AM] International Rob: got them
[2014-11-11 10:21:07 AM] International Rob: thank you
[2014-11-11 10:21:15 AM] International Rob: I will get some support put up shortly
[2014-11-11 10:22:00 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's from BTER's wallet. so please transafer it to some addresses else in case you need to expose the funds
[2014-11-11 10:22:23 AM] linhan.ee: otherwise, people can trace it
[2014-11-11 10:25:17 AM] International Rob: ok no worries
[2014-11-11 10:25:20 AM] International Rob: I am good with that
[2014-11-11 10:25:30 AM] linhan.ee: cool
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December 12, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
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Those coins were paid back to them by bter during ICO:

[2014-11-25 10:57:02 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so didnt you get 500 btc?
[2014-11-25 10:57:15 PM] International Rob: those were our 500 btc we put in.... hell yeah we get them back... if you would have put 333 btc in you could have got thoses back too
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