BitForce SC - release notes

[BFL]

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line.  I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy that might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

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[crazyates]

Thanks for clarifying!

[Dalkore]

Thank you so much.   

[byte1]

Thanks for the clarification.

BFL:
What if a customer places an order for a MiniRig, and cannot come up with the extra 15K to upgrade to an SC?  So is he screwed with older hardware and increasing difficulty?

[Serge]

wow, looks like BFL plans to flood the network with asic gear by year's end

our USB coffee warmer product (the ‘Jalapeno’) was designed for maximum gift-ability in time for the holiday season.

[DILLIGAF]

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line.  I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy relative to how it might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

You left out the most important question needing to be answered how will the hashing power be deployed? As if the th/s boxes go out the door first in quantity then there is absolutely no sense in buying any of your other products.

[crazyates]

Thanks for the clarification.

BFL:
What if a customer places an order for a MiniRig, and cannot come up with the extra 15K to upgrade to an SC?  So is he screwed with older hardware and increasing difficulty?

He sells his MR for ~15k to someone else who CAN use it as a trade in, and then he spends that money to buy 12 SC Singles (for 480GH/s).

[crazyates]

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line.  I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy relative to how it might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

You left out the most important question needing to be answered how will the hashing power be deployed? As if the th/s boxes go out the door first in quantity then there is absolutely no sense in buying any of your other products.

I'm guessing the majority of their orders will be jalapenos or singles, so these will be the ones shipped first.

[Cablez]

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins?  Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

[Serge]

i would like to preorder few coffee warmers. thx

[crazyates]

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins?  Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

[BFL]

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins?  Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

[crazyates]

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins?  Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

[DILLIGAF]

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line.  I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy relative to how it might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

You left out the most important question needing to be answered how will the hashing power be deployed? As if the th/s boxes go out the door first in quantity then there is absolutely no sense in buying any of your other products.

I'm guessing the majority of their orders will be jalapenos or singles, so these will be the ones shipped first.

Guessing is no good and if you guess wrong your fucked. There would be you would think at least as many th/s boxes going out the door as mini-rigs at the least, so people need to know how the deployment is going to go so they can at least try to be making their money back.

[imsaguy]

When are the confirmations for orders placed a month ago going out?  I would trying emailing, but you don't return them.

When are the orders placed a month ago going to be shipped?  You say you can rapidly catch up, but Oct isn't that far away and each week you don't ship only costs me more money.

[SysRun]

Thanks for the clarification. I think some of us who have lost faith along the way now understand a bit more about your process.

So how do I get my order in as early as possible now? 

[Tachikoma]

So how do I get my order in as early as possible now? 

It's about time, if I don't do it somebody else will.

[ice_chill]

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins?  Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

This shocked me too as I have a Mini-Rig on order, but March is OK.

Does this mean we can reserve the credit up to March 1st, and then ship to you once the SC is ready, or the old product has to reach your office by March 1st ?

[allten]

BFL.

A huge thanks from one of your critics.

From this I have a few comments and questions I hope you will consider answering.

1) Does the trade-in offer still apply to product ordered after the
announcement?

If so, is it a concern that customers may flood you with orders now only to send them back a few months later?
From a business perspective, it only makes sense to phase out the old product starting now and when it's gone it's gone. Are you willing to confirm?

2) Will your entire SC product line be available roughly at the same time? Or will it be staggered?

3) If you are scheduling shipment for October, when will you start taking orders?

4) Every greedy bastard here including myself wants the advantage over the next guy in receiving the product first.
    Can you address this? Is it first order first serve policy as usual? Will you give an advanced notice before taking orders?
    This sure puts you in an interesting predicament.

Suggestion: If you drafted a policy now that allowed everyone to benefit somewhat simultaneously, it would sure win over more support in the community.
                 We are a little fractured in community due to you guys. I hope you step up as a leader and do what you can so it is positive for all.




 

[BCbitcoin]

Does this mean we can reserve the credit up to March 1st, and then ship to you once the SC is ready, or the old product has to reach your office by March 1st ?

Their faq says you don't have to send it in until your sc is ready to ship.