JoelKatz
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September 10, 2012, 02:51:30 AM |
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On the side note, although Matthew scammed many people with his "bet", he didn't receive one satoshi out of it, so the damages are limited. But discussing this would be clearly off-topic here. I didn't receive one Satoshi from Pirate's scam, does it follow that the damages are limited? Yes, Matthew made no profit from the damage he did. How does that show the damages are limited?
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September 10, 2012, 04:44:31 AM |
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On the side note, although Matthew scammed many people with his "bet", he didn't receive one satoshi out of it, so the damages are limited. But discussing this would be clearly off-topic here. I didn't receive one Satoshi from Pirate's scam, does it follow that the damages are limited? Yes, Matthew made no profit from the damage he did. How does that show the damages are limited? deliberately mis-managing another human's expectations about money makes a negative emotional impact on the victims. This is what Matt did, this is what Pirate did, this is what Vescudero is doing. Mis-managing expectations of many others in order for himself to profit greatly.
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September 10, 2012, 09:07:41 AM |
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On the side note, although Matthew scammed many people with his "bet", he didn't receive one satoshi out of it, so the damages are limited. But discussing this would be clearly off-topic here. I didn't receive one Satoshi from Pirate's scam, does it follow that the damages are limited? Yes, Matthew made no profit from the damage he did. How does that show the damages are limited? deliberately mis-managing another human's expectations about money makes a negative emotional impact on the victims. This is what Matt did, this is what Pirate did, this is what Vescudero is doing. Mis-managing expectations of many others in order for himself to profit greatly. This is all too right.....and even formulated way to softly, how damaging it is for community spirit and the wherewithall of Bitcon ! But : To remind you of the late Sir Alan Greenspan : Bubbles ( ponzis ) are not recognizable in advance, they got to be cleaned up afterwards ! Of course in FIAT world this is a blatant lie, but it applies to bitco in. Where are the efforts of the great Moderators of this forum to put scammer - tags on the PPT -operators, who are still "mismanaging human´s expectations" helping to hide the ill - gotten interest of the ponzi -scams ? May I deduce that everybody watches out for the next one?...the same as false accusations have no consequences and are greeted as evidence.....even if its just based on the limited ability to percieve the facts and the inability of nearly all the Super - Egos to backpaddle, when getting their head handed back to them. And so, as i love to put perceptions in the realm of reality, nobody is perfect , would you mind, Sir Micon, to put up for otoh´s bet ? Vescudero was (is) a useful service for me, as I earned his weekly interest in 15 min. after I took out a loan. Thought of you as a bastion of honor or is your "justice" the last air-bag protecting the heroscammers of legitimate competition ? Thanks Zyk P.S. As long as i can´t see the same clean- up efforts made to prosecute the big profiteers as have been shown for MNW...... bitcoin.org is a typical case of frying the small - fish and let the bigo(tt)nes going on scott -free.....
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Justin00
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September 10, 2012, 09:15:24 AM |
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was able to withdraw all my BTCs with no issues at all Thanks again Victor
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slider1978
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September 12, 2012, 04:36:55 AM |
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My requested withdrawal was handled on time as well as all the interest payments while I had BTC deposited.
Thanks very much
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thirdlight
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September 12, 2012, 06:00:53 AM |
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My requested withdrawal was handled on time as well as all the interest payments while I had BTC deposited.
Thanks very much
I've had the same experience. Thanks,
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VEscudero (OP)
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September 15, 2012, 12:08:51 AM |
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Hello,
I would like inform all of you in advance of the closing of this deposit by the end of this month.
Since the very beginning my deposit has been a very successful operation because of you, my investors. I would like to thank everyone of you, so an operation like this had not been possible without your trust.
After careful consideration, I have decided to close my deposit in order for me to make up part of the free time I used to have in the past.
I know you might be worried thinking about the future of your bitcoins. I can give you my word, that I will return all your coins back with due interests.
Stay tuned. Victor Escudero
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Raoul Duke
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September 15, 2012, 12:19:00 AM |
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OK. Send my deposit back when you close up shop. Keep up the good work, Victor.
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nraz
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September 15, 2012, 06:48:54 AM |
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Do you really think vescudero is going to return all your deposits? Make your escrowed bet for or against his default and win a lot of Bitcoins!! http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=671
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September 15, 2012, 07:17:45 AM |
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Donations: 1JVhKjUKSjBd7fPXQJsBs5P3Yphk38AqPr - TIPS the hacks, the hacks, secure your bits!
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bitfoo
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September 15, 2012, 07:32:58 AM |
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Account registered just 8 hours ago, just 7 posts in and is already betting 299 BTC on vescudero paying out. Clearly a shill. Well, at least he gives the non-believers a way to put their money where their mouth is.
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bitcoinBull
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September 15, 2012, 08:01:59 AM |
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Account registered just 8 hours ago, just 7 posts in and is already betting 299 BTC on vescudero paying out. Clearly a shill. Well, at least he gives the non-believers a way to put their money where their mouth is. Yea, I got this PM too (addressed to "Hi Gavin") Vescudero's scheme has only been operating since late June (and at that time he was still competing with pirate). For a ponzi that short, it would be very easy for him to pay everyone back with interest, and try to make some profits from this little bet. Then re-open later, after proving "not a ponzi" to everyone the first time.
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College of Bucking Bulls Knowledge
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repentance
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September 15, 2012, 10:44:30 AM |
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Account registered just 8 hours ago, just 7 posts in and is already betting 299 BTC on vescudero paying out. Clearly a shill. Well, at least he gives the non-believers a way to put their money where their mouth is. I got a PM spam about it too, despite never having posted in Vescudero's thread.
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All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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VEscudero (OP)
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September 15, 2012, 11:45:53 AM |
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Please take your bets with you out of this thread.
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September 15, 2012, 01:33:45 PM |
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Hello,
I would like inform all of you in advance of the closing of this deposit by the end of this month.
Since the very beginning my deposit has been a very successful operation because of you, my investors. I would like to thank everyone of you, so an operation like this had not been possible without your trust.
After careful consideration, I have decided to close my deposit in order for me to make up part of the free time I used to have in the past.
I know you might be worried thinking about the future of your bitcoins. I can give you my word, that I will return all your coins back with due interests.
Stay tuned. Victor Escudero
Sad to see the end of this, very happy with the results so far and hope to hear more from vescudero in the future. I'll post here when I get my BTC back to let all you guys know that vescudero is a trustworthy guy.
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Bitcoin Oz
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September 16, 2012, 10:23:56 AM |
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Hello,
I would like inform all of you in advance of the closing of this deposit by the end of this month.
Since the very beginning my deposit has been a very successful operation because of you, my investors. I would like to thank everyone of you, so an operation like this had not been possible without your trust.
After careful consideration, I have decided to close my deposit in order for me to make up part of the free time I used to have in the past.
I know you might be worried thinking about the future of your bitcoins. I can give you my word, that I will return all your coins back with due interests.
Stay tuned. Victor Escudero
Another one bites the dust.
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VEscudero (OP)
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September 16, 2012, 04:56:22 PM |
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Hello guys, check your wallets bleeping. Interests have been paid out for this week and 13 deposits have been withdrawn.
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der_meister
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September 16, 2012, 05:23:14 PM |
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Interest received.
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Moving on is a simple thing, what it leaves behind is hard...
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1Pakis
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September 16, 2012, 06:54:06 PM |
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Confirmed
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Tips are welcome at this address 18DVZkpSwmejPjekX3QMKvRRtR8Bfx65LN.
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September 16, 2012, 07:19:55 PM |
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Ok victor. Recibido Wuala
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Leave the force be with you...
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