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December 15, 2014, 01:19:57 AM |
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Looking for a non-collateral loan.
This loan is for investing and online trading.
I pay you back in 3 days with doubled.
PM me if you are interested.
If you don't trust me, then I can give you a account, and you can hold onto it until I pay the loan.
EDIT: I will give my paypal account, linked with my cc which has my money in it! So I will only accept loans from trusted members.
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peonminer
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December 15, 2014, 01:21:41 AM |
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Looking for a non-collateral loan.
This loan is for investing and online trading.
I pay you back in 3 days with doubled.
PM me if you are interested.
lol, what kind of account?
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xtactics (OP)
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December 15, 2014, 01:26:37 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
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peonminer
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December 15, 2014, 01:27:47 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Interesting. *grabs popcorn*
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December 15, 2014, 01:28:08 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral.
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December 15, 2014, 01:34:43 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral. What could I give, main email or blockchain?
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John (John K.)
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December 15, 2014, 01:36:45 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral. What could I give, main email or blockchain? What is considered collateral?
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.
- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). - Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it. - Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc. - Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.
What is not considered collateral?
- Items not in hand. Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default! Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box. - Future income. You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt. - Identification. So what if they can prove who they are. Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds? You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does. ID is useless. - Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight. - Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time. Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come 6 months later! - Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account) ...
I find this post by Vod really informative for situations like this.
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December 15, 2014, 01:38:08 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral. What could I give, main email or blockchain? It seems as if you have no valid collateral, if you were to already have some previous trust or maybe alt coins to give as such then it might be acceptable.
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xtactics (OP)
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December 15, 2014, 01:43:26 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral. What could I give, main email or blockchain? What is considered collateral?
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.
- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). - Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it. - Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc. - Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.
What is not considered collateral?
- Items not in hand. Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default! Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box. - Future income. You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt. - Identification. So what if they can prove who they are. Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds? You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does. ID is useless. - Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight. - Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time. Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come 6 months later! - Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account) ...
Look, I'm in need of a loan, I can give you anything you request as long as it proves to you, that I will pay you back your bitcoin. I find this post by Vod really informative for situations like this.
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Vod
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December 15, 2014, 01:46:16 AM |
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Look, I'm in need of a loan, I can give you anything you request as long as it proves to you, that I will pay you back your bitcoin.
Nothing you can give us will prove you will pay us back. That is why we ask for collateral.
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peonminer
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December 15, 2014, 01:48:41 AM |
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A paypal account, linked with my credit card.
Nope, not a valid collateral. Stolen PP accounts are rampant, and even if it's yours it's really easy to revoke the access by just calling in etc. Please provide a valid collateral. What could I give, main email or blockchain? What is considered collateral?
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.
- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). - Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it. - Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc. - Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.
What is not considered collateral?
- Items not in hand. Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default! Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box. - Future income. You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt. - Identification. So what if they can prove who they are. Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds? You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does. ID is useless. - Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight. - Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time. Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come 6 months later! - Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account) ...
I find this post by Vod really informative for situations like this. Look, I'm in need of a loan, I can give you anything you request as long as it proves to you, that I will pay you back your bitcoin. I request your soul.
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December 15, 2014, 01:54:11 AM |
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I request your soul.
Not sure if you are joking, since you were absent for the forum for a period of time, but someone did try this already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0dank ended up defaulting on his loan regardless. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) (If you were joking, I post this as a public reminder)
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John (John K.)
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December 15, 2014, 01:56:40 AM |
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I request your soul.
![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I remember doing the ' dank's soul has been claimed' edit LOL. Not sure if you are joking, since you were absent for the forum for a period of time, but someone did try this already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0dank ended up defaulting on his loan regardless. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) (If you were joking, I post this as a public reminder)
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xtactics (OP)
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December 15, 2014, 02:12:31 AM |
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I request your soul.
Not sure if you are joking, since you were absent for the forum for a period of time, but someone did try this already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0dank ended up defaulting on his loan regardless. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) (If you were joking, I post this as a public reminder) Sorry about the absense, and no i'm not joking. I could ship something over to you worth roughly $50-$100
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Vod
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December 15, 2014, 02:15:50 AM |
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Where is the money coming from to pay me 0.4btc in 3 days?
Never mind - this one is too obviously a scam. What absence is he talking about?
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December 15, 2014, 02:20:36 AM |
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Where is the money coming from to pay me 0.4btc in 3 days?
Never mind - this one is too obviously a scam. What absence is he talking about?
Don't jump to conclusions to fast, Its for online trading and investing.
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December 15, 2014, 02:21:53 AM |
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Where is the money coming from to pay me 0.4btc in 3 days?
Never mind - this one is too obviously a scam. What absence is he talking about?
Don't jump to conclusions to fast, Its for online trading and investing. I believe that. I just don't believe you'll pay back any coins "lent" to you. You have no reason to.
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December 15, 2014, 02:29:43 AM |
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Where is the money coming from to pay me 0.4btc in 3 days?
Never mind - this one is too obviously a scam. What absence is he talking about?
Don't jump to conclusions to fast, Its for online trading and investing. I believe that. I just don't believe you'll pay back any coins "lent" to you. You have no reason to. I told you, I would give you something valuable through shipping, or either accounts ect. There was no need to go and say "Never mind - this one is too obviously a scam" Anyways, I wouldn't scam you either way, but I could ship you something valuable, and once it arrived you can give me the loan?
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December 15, 2014, 02:31:00 AM |
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Looking for a non-collateral loan.
If you happen to find someone to escrow with, document everything in this thread, and I'll remove the trust. Otherwise, you're just another newbie looking for a "loan". ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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December 15, 2014, 08:17:05 PM |
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I request your soul.
Not sure if you are joking, since you were absent for the forum for a period of time, but someone did try this already: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0dank ended up defaulting on his loan regardless. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) (If you were joking, I post this as a public reminder) Omg XD Dank Soul Guarantee - Danksurance Wow Yeah I was totally joking, didn't know btc members would stoup to eBay standards D: *flabbergasted*
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