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June 24, 2012, 07:44:15 AM
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Hello,
I laundered greater than 1000 btc recently.

I chose to try something different this time and tried bitcoinfog and torwallet to compare results.

Safe, Neither steal your money, I did less  than 100 btc amounts at a time to be safe.

Service charges, bitcoinfog is the clear winner. torwallet has a flat 3% rate, bitcoin fog has a random rate between %1 - %3 (you save 100 btc every thousand washed, it starts to add up).

Interface, while the style of bitcoinfog is very cool, torwallet has the better UI. Both are easy to use.

Service, It is my opinion that bitcoinfog is clearly a superior laundering service.

I spent many hours pouring over blockchain.info and blockexplorer examining taints and attempting to trace the btc back to my new wallet.

Unfortunately it seems a single wash on torwallet is not enough, The funds are clearly linked back to my new wallet. Torwallet did do a reasonable job of cleaning the bulk of the coins shifted but to many have 100% taint and high counts (1+ to 50+)  which leads back to an address I no longer wish to associate with. I also need to note, the funds did not sit on torwallet long, just long enough to be washed for free / be washed once then shifted to the new wallet. Perhaps if I had left funds there a week/ shifted less it would of washed them better.

Bitcoinfog I am very impressed with, some fractions of coins have 83% taint and a single count. an estimated ~10% had ~66% and the bulk under 8 all with a single count.

Features,

Torwallet: The url wallet is extremely cool.

Bitcoinfog: random fee of %1-%3,
randomized payout amounts and times. (this pleases me).

Arguably both achieved the service claimed if not the level of anonymity claimed.
when I saw 1 particular coin fraction with 100% and a dangerously high count 50+ after being through torwallet my tinfoil hat nearly shot off my head.

Über paranoid people like myself, Id suggest doing your own rituals first (mine requires satoshi's blood) to launder coins then definitely consider using bitcoinfog and torwallet. For best practice do all 3 in succession using new wallets and addresses each time and only via tor.
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September 19, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
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I laundered greater than 1000 btc recently.

There's a difference between mixing and laundering.  I'm just going to presume you meant to say you mixed.  Smiley

As a public service message, I wanted to update this thread to note that there are reports that users of this Tor Wallet service are not getting their coins back:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87387.0

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