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December 18, 2014, 12:11:52 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
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December 18, 2014, 12:36:41 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism
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December 18, 2014, 12:46:13 PM |
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my comment is about Rome, 1. the south shore is Africa too, thus far Africa enjoyed the wonders and squalors of Rome. 2. Rome collapsed, the o of life.
and personally there is no Africa, but Individuals, as such I agree some are so stuck that only swording is useful... other not. Maybe because the wonders of the Empire aren't collective but individual in nature. That in collectivizing defense (Individuals working together with a common goal (defeat the foreign and domestic enemies)) at a scale never seen before, it was possible to say fuck to anyone wanting trouble and be able to grow and prosper in peace, until said prosperity was destroyed by intellectual laziness, fictions and fallacies.
But the last 5000 years were pretty hard on the People the most integrated to their environments... that has costs, I want a bath.
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money is faster...
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December 18, 2014, 01:05:45 PM |
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Before the racists plague this thread with their bullshit, as has already been said the African continent has been deliberately kept in a primitive state by more advanced nations, no one can say for sure why but to me the most obvious answer would be resources.
Africa is still after all this time a resource rich continent, even if the Africans didn't unite but somehow managed to learn to fend for themselves and get just as advanced as the rest of the world that would mean bad news for other countries because they could no longer take advantage of their poverty and buy up their resources cheap.
While I won't claim any conspiracy theory in regards to aids and ebola on that continent I do agree that colonialism is most likely the biggest cause of their problems, we've often seen how much empire building can fuck up a country and the Africans have had to deal with that shit for hundreds of years.
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December 18, 2014, 01:08:11 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
First of all, your premise is mistaken and in error. By taking the most advanced civilization of 2000 years ago, not "the average". Even with that comparison, Africa has cars, mobile phones, computers, which Rome did not.
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December 18, 2014, 01:47:55 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
Because of their geographical location ? Their land always dry and almost drought every season
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December 18, 2014, 01:58:57 PM |
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There are a variety of reasons. Many of the reasons have to do with the fact that there are a reasonable number of high IQ people in America and Europe who managed to improve things... for money, of course. Also, there is a high emotional IQ among many of the people of Africa while there is a lower intellectual IQ, which causes all kinds of turmoil for them. If you want to see validation for this, search the archives of http://www.amren.com/ about 15 years back. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 18, 2014, 03:42:56 PM |
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Most of the countries are run by dictators.
When your government allows you almost zero freedom, you will not produce.
The country that has improved the most since their dictatorship fell is Somalia. While not a powerhouse compared to 1st world countries, it is a vast improvement from its dictatorship days.
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December 18, 2014, 04:05:24 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
Again. Africa is a continent. A continent that was divided by the powers from the Old Europe. Of course people were already fighting before the Europeans came, like anywhere else. The same way you say "Africa", the Old Europe saw "black people", not 100s of specific ethnic groups with different cultures and territories. Rwanda is a perfect example of what happened when you do a social experiment on such scale. Belgium became a very very rich country thanks to... AfricaCongo Free State (1885–1908)[edit] Main article: Congo Free State
A white missionary posing with Congolese man, mutilated by the Congo Free State government Colonial rule in the Congo began in the late 19th century. King Leopold II of Belgium, frustrated by his nation's lack of international power and prestige, tried to persuade the government to support colonial expansion around the then-largely unexplored Congo Basin. Their ambivalence resulted in Leopold's creating a colony on his own account. With support from a number of Western countries, who viewed Leopold as a useful buffer between rival colonial powers on the Continent, Leopold achieved international recognition for a personal colony, the Congo Free State, in 1885.[2]
The Free State government exploited the Congo for its natural resources, first ivory and later rubber which was becoming a valuable commodity. With the support of the colonial military, the Force Publique, the territory was divided into private concessions. The Anglo-Belgian India Rubber Company (ABIR), among others, used force and brutality to extract profit from the territory. The regime in the Congo was responsible for using forced labour, murder and mutilation to force indigenous Congolese who did not fulfill quotas for rubber collections. It is estimated that millions of Congolese died during this time.[3] Many of the deaths can be attributed to new diseases introduced by contact with European colonists, including smallpox which killed nearly half the population in the areas surrounding the lower Congo River.[4]
A sharp reduction of the population of the Congo through excess deaths is widely considered to have occurred during the Free State period but estimates of the deaths toll vary considerably. Although figures are estimates, it is believed that as many as ten million Congolese died during the period,[5][6][7][8] accounting for a fifth of the population. As the first census did not take place until 1924, it is difficult to quantify the population loss of the period and these figures have been disputed by some who, like William Rubinstein, claim that the figures cited by Adam Hochschild are speculative estimates based on little evidence.[9]
Although the Congo Free State was not officially a Belgian colony, Belgium was its chief beneficiary in terms of its trade and the employment of its citizens. Leopold II personally accumulating considerable wealth from the rubber and ivory exports of the colony acquired at gunpoint. Much of this was spent in numerous programmes of public building in Brussels, Ostend and Antwerp.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_colonial_empireSo if you are looking for stones beside the stone age of Africa, look for them in buildings around in Brussels... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 18, 2014, 04:16:07 PM |
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Belgium became a very very rich country thanks to... AfricaSo if you are looking for stones beside the stone age of Africa, look for them in buildings around in Brussels... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) All because the majority of the black, African people were/are not as intellectually capable as the Western Europeans. In fact, the African emotional IQ, which may be higher, worked against black Africans. http://www.amren.com/Was Tarzan really a good guy? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 18, 2014, 04:16:17 PM |
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There are not manufacturers in Africa, as well as energy supply for manufacturers, so there are only nature, and wild animals. And in living areas you can find some local markets. That's all and nothing more.
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December 18, 2014, 04:31:54 PM |
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There are not manufacturers in Africa, as well as energy supply for manufacturers, so there are only nature, and wild animals. And in living areas you can find some local markets. That's all and nothing more.
So Africa is a big zoo in need for caring, readjustment, nudging and population control then?
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December 18, 2014, 05:00:50 PM |
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Too bad (or maybe an obvious good thing for some here) none of us on this thread will have a real genuine African perspective for a minimum counter argument. At least we have real genuine muslims counter arguing and pushing back on my thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 18, 2014, 06:20:01 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
Because of their geographical location ? Their land always dry and almost drought every seasonObviously you've never flown over the African continent... Check it out on Google Earth just for fun.
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December 18, 2014, 06:49:07 PM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
Because of their geographical location ? Their land always dry and almost drought every seasonObviously you've never flown over the African continent... Check it out on Google Earth just for fun. When I read that I was like WTF? What kind of basic, basic education people get? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjffLbkw.jpg&t=665&c=O2pt_5FIQWWNNw)
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December 18, 2014, 10:39:45 PM |
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This pretty much sums it up, Europeans have been raping that continent for centuries.
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December 18, 2014, 11:03:56 PM |
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During the recent ebola outbreak some blacks attacked a hospital and stole blankets. The blankets used to cover the sick... There was also a case of a group of sick people that run away from the hospital, because they saw people dying there or whatever. So yeah they prefered spread the desease around and die somewhere in the jungle... 2000 years ago black people were living in their houses made of straw and hunting with spears. In the following years even the isolated countries like Japan built castles, made steel, clothes, paper, art and improved medicine. Now we have space ships, electricity, internet, lasers and hadron colliders ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) while they are sitting half naked in their huts and hunting with blowguns.
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December 19, 2014, 01:18:47 AM |
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This is not meant to be an offensive post, I am genuinely curious as to why Africa is so far behind the rest of the world.
The Roman Empire had running water, amenities, reliable shelter and clothing for its entire populace 2,000 years ago. 2,000 FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. They created art, sculptures, vast architecture using 2,000 YEAR OLD technology yet if you go to a random area in Africa, it is plagued by poverty, destitution and just overall squalor.
Why is Africa 2000+ years behind the rest of the world and what can be done to correct this??
Others have already said it, but I'd put the first part of that question as: I have my boot on your neck pinning you to the floor, but why can't you get up? For the second part of the question, how to correct it: people all over still get a lot of cheap stuff thanks to resources "taken" from Africa. One way to help would be if the population there actually got something out of the deal.
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December 19, 2014, 01:40:13 AM |
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There are not manufacturers in Africa, as well as energy supply for manufacturers, so there are only nature, and wild animals. And in living areas you can find some local markets. That's all and nothing more.
Oh, that's why I have driven past so many mining operations, refineries, and wineries in Africa. Got it!
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