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June 25, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
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http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00161#position

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June 26, 2012, 02:27:55 PM
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Of course he voted against it.

How can the market work in his "libertarian" proponents' favor if people have the information to make a free market function.
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June 26, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
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The change in the U.S. labeling laws really bothers me.  I can't believe this is the game they want to play to prevent people from knowing what they consume.

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June 26, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
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Do you really think that more labelling regulations are going to change anything?

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June 26, 2012, 04:55:13 PM
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If I understand it correctly, it is a federal law to allow states to force producers to put a particular label on their products in some cases.
Any consistent libertarian has to be against forcing people to do things they don't want to do with their property. Rand Paul's vote is as expected.

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June 26, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
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Has anyone here ever tried non-GMO corn? I've only eaten corn that is the result of centuries of selective breeding, far removed from anything unmodified.
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June 26, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
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Has anyone here ever tried non-GMO corn? I've only eaten corn that is the result of centuries of selective breeding, far removed from anything unmodified.

and apples..

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June 26, 2012, 06:21:04 PM
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I have little opinion on labels... I forgive Ron Paul whether right or wrong on this.

Funny it's even an issue next to Obama's evil.

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June 26, 2012, 06:25:14 PM
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I have little opinion on labels... I forgive Ron Paul whether right or wrong on this.

Funny it's even an issue next to Obama's evil.

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June 26, 2012, 06:32:48 PM
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He's completely right to do so.


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June 27, 2012, 02:20:54 PM
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Of course he voted against it.

How can the market work in his "libertarian" proponents' favor if people have the information to make a free market function.

Whats stopping you from informing yourself now? Also, for example beer labels don't even need to tell me the alcohol content, and food labels are missing all sorts of info they should have to be truly informative. Usually if I am worried about it I look it up anyway. How much of that food does the FDA actually test anyway? While I like having that info, it seems that government enforcement of them is just kind of a wasteful and feel-good measure. If someone put a label and it was later found to be incorrect that should be fraud though.
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June 27, 2012, 10:51:03 PM
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Of course he voted against it.

How can the market work in his "libertarian" proponents' favor if people have the information to make a free market function.

If people want their food products certified in a certain way and are willing to pay what it costs then the market will provide this service. These laws are both redundant and an infringement on property rights. This is Ron Paul's perspective and I totally agree with his vote.
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June 28, 2012, 05:39:24 PM
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Of course he voted against it.

How can the market work in his "libertarian" proponents' favor if people have the information to make a free market function.

If people want their food products certified in a certain way and are willing to pay what it costs then the market will provide this service. These laws are both redundant and an infringement on property rights. This is Ron Paul's perspective and I totally agree with his vote.

Sorry that's doing it backwards.  If you are being sold something, you deserve to be told what's in it.  You are free not to read it, but that is your choice.  If the product does not have facts that you need to know on the packaging, you never get the chance to make that choice.  

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June 28, 2012, 09:48:44 PM
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If the product does not have facts that you need to know on the packaging, you never get the chance to make that choice.  

The only fact the packaging absolutely needs is a unique identifying number like a PLU or UPC code. Then the internet can solve any remaining information shortages. We could even streamline the process with a smartphone app...

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==WARNINGS==
Non-Kosher
Non-Halal
Contains meat
Made in a factory that processes tree nuts
GMO
Comment by ChargersFan123: "these things are disgusting! fail!" (2 responses)
Comment by Joints420: "whatevs, i liked it but it did make me throw up i think"

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June 28, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
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If the product does not have facts that you need to know on the packaging, you never get the chance to make that choice. 

The only fact the packaging absolutely needs is a unique identifying number like a PLU or UPC code. Then the internet can solve any remaining information shortages. We could even streamline the process with a smartphone app...

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Great idea, but...

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==WARNINGS==
Non-Kosher
Non-Halal
Contains meat
Made in a factory that processes tree nuts
GMO
Comment by ChargersFan123: "these things are disgusting! fail!" (2 responses)
Comment by Joints420: "whatevs, i liked it but it did make me throw up i think"

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What the hell are these things!?!?!? Vat-grown pork rinds or something? Wink

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June 28, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
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What about all the bugs that are "allowed" to be on or in certain foods....


We eat a lot of thrips and maggots Sad
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June 29, 2012, 02:09:27 AM
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Has anyone here ever tried non-GMO corn? I've only eaten corn that is the result of centuries of selective breeding, far removed from anything unmodified.

GMO does not equal selective breeding. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism

Right now 85% of corn is GMO, so it is most of it, but 17 years ago almost no corn was GMO.  If you had corn before then, it was non GMO.  I can not taste the difference but usually taste is not going to be the problem.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035734_GMOs_foods_dangers.html

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June 29, 2012, 02:24:24 AM
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They already cross pig DNA with produce, how long before they cross people DNA with soy lentils?  Cheesy

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June 29, 2012, 08:34:53 AM
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If the product does not have facts that you need to know on the packaging, you never get the chance to make that choice.  

The only fact the packaging absolutely needs is a unique identifying number like a PLU or UPC code. Then the internet can solve any remaining information shortages. We could even streamline the process with a smartphone app...
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The important thing is that the buyer has access to information that meets a common standard and that is accurate.  Once that is there, if there is a market for smartphone apps, great. 

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June 29, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
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If you are being sold something, you deserve to be told what's in it.

I agree you "deserve", but you don't get to force the seller to tell if he doesn't want to. Just don't trust him and don't buy from him if you find it suspicious.
I believe the law in question was about forcing a label. The simple fact that some people want to force others to put a particular label on their products is already suspicious too.

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