Spondoolies Spam

[Mabsark]

An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.

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[raskul]

An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.

that's a good idea, however I still prefer the idea of manufacturers child boards, simply because it'd be more user-friendly in navigation.

[Mushroomized]

An obvious compromise between having numerous review posts and having manufacture sub-forums is to create a mining review sub-forum.

I agree, a manufacturer subforum would be too much hassle but this is a good idea

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

I couldn't agree more. I appreciate the fact that it allows n00bs like me a way of (possibly) earning some starter bitcoins, but sig campaigns are unbecoming to the forum. I would personally sign a petition to have them removed. I was fine with faucets

[dogie]

If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?

[raskul]

If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?

The above Post has been sponsored by Bitmain-Tech.

yes dogie, cheers for that.

[dogie]

If sig campaigns are allowed, I don't see what's so particularly heinous about this. Targetting sig campaigns would also provide a better ROI, it's by far the worst type of corporate spam here.

I do see how it may become a problem if it becomes common. Though one would think that since a significant majority of their customers come from here they would ultimately want to do what's best for the forum, and not just short term profits, but that's greed for ya. I guess we'll find out.

The greater problem is that there isn't a concrete admin policy on the issue. One company was allowed and it appears that the policy is that anyone can do it. But if another company does exactly the same thing but on a larger scale, can we guarantee there would be no admin intervention?

The above Post has been sponsored by Bitmain-Tech.

yes dogie, cheers for that.

Again, says the christmas tree -_- My relationship with bitmain does not extend outside their threads. Can we get back OT though please?

[mavericklm]

i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

i count 4 threads starting with [Guide] Dogie's  by some guy that thinks is the l'ombelico del mondo

yes! you are the spam!

[AJRGale]

there is one simple way of fixing these "omg spamz" problem, each major company has their own sub forum inside the "Hardware" section, and an extra for the "New Companies" and its upto the main company to monitor their subs.

... oh i can see whats going to happen if that ever came in. "i don't like your words, *delete*"

but if people going to have hate over Ckolivas de-cluttering the forums by collating all the reviews, they have a problem, i was surprised it never happened.

Hell, even if the thread owners locked the original post and moved onto the other 2, that would help out the "spamz in ma face" issue

[dogie]

i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

There is no where near 11, and if people are asking questions outside of the appropriate areas then report those posts. I would be more than happy to merge anything bitmain into one of the two bitmain threads per product but I'm not an admin so you have to have patience.

[dogie]

Issue has been resolved, CK has set an appropriate precedent:

There are quite a number of these reviews now cluttering up the hardware area and while it was nice publicity for spondoolies, I will be locking each thread after they have been up for a couple of days and I suggest further discussion regarding the reviews should go here. @spondoolies-tech, you may wish to create links to all the original review threads in your top post.

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

tldr no one is allowed to flood spam

[mavericklm]

i count 11 threads with bitmain in the title! did any1 complained?

There is no where near 11, and if people are asking questions outside of the appropriate areas then report those posts. I would be more than happy to merge anything bitmain into one of the two bitmain threads per product but I'm not an admin so you have to have patience.

are u blind or just acting like a fool??

14threads related to bitmain miners atm! and it goes like this:  5 threads started by bitmain and 4 by you!
the rest are from customers with bitmain miner related problems!
btw: any thread with SPTech customers crying like bitmain customers?

Did any1 complain that bitmain has a thread for each of its own miner??
and SPTech only 1 for all.....

[Guy Corem]

I think that we got some very interesting threads.
The uninteresting slowly sunk.
I wish MrTeal will unlock his thread.

I think that it turns out very nicely, and it's clearly not "spam".

[raskul]

I think that we got some very interesting threads.
The uninteresting slowly sunk.
I wish MrTeal will unlock his thread.

I think that it turns out very nicely, and it's clearly not "spam".

well, in reality, this thread was started by one of your biggest haters.
It just goes to show how truly 'impartial' that dogie (et al) is, when joining in with this type of hate-campaign.
dogie and his 'manufacturers trustworthyness guide' what a crock of shit.

dogie, lock all your threads, by the standards you have set out in this thread, they are all spam.

[Guy Corem]

I think that we got some very interesting threads.
The uninteresting slowly sunk.
I wish MrTeal will unlock his thread.

I think that it turns out very nicely, and it's clearly not "spam".

well, in reality, this thread was started by one of your biggest haters.
It just goes to show how truly 'impartial' that dogie (et al) is, when joining in with this type of hate-campaign.
dogie and his 'manufacturers trustworthyness guide' what a crock of shit.

dogie, lock all your threads, by the standards you have set out in this thread, they are all spam.

I wanted to add that it seems that now innocent posts I am making are being reported and deleted.
It's ludicrous but it won't deter me.

[theymos]

The moderation guidelines say:

Topic creation should not be annoying. There should not be too many topics about the same thing in a short time period, and individuals should not post too many topics. "Too many" depends on the quality of the topics.

If an entire page is taken up by Spondoolies reviews, then that's probably too many topics. How this should be handled is more tricky, since I don't want to suppress anyone's honest opinion. We'll see if ckolivas' locking solution is helpful.

[mavericklm]

If an entire page is taken up by Spondoolies reviews, then that's probably too many topics

there was no page full of sp20 review threads as there is always few threads by bitmain or dogie on main page!
also bfl and knc fucked up bussines

did anyone make any fuss about the fact that dogie has 20 or more threads of ''guides''?
or about the fact that bitmain has a thread for each of it's miners? spondoolies has only 1 main thread and that is it!

[Guy Corem]

The moderation guidelines say:

Topic creation should not be annoying. There should not be too many topics about the same thing in a short time period, and individuals should not post too many topics. "Too many" depends on the quality of the topics.

If an entire page is taken up by Spondoolies reviews, then that's probably too many topics. How this should be handled is more tricky, since I don't want to suppress anyone's honest opinion. We'll see if ckolivas' locking solution is helpful.

I believe those reviews turns out very nicely and a lot of them contains very interesting information and new tweaking.
Yes, few users include some well known haters (not Dogie!) complained and created this thread.
Dogie also complained and kept this thread alive. Some users enjoyed "playing" with him by artificially bumping the threads up.
I don't think locking by moderator is the right solution. Each Legendary may choose to lock his/her own thread.

In the last days, three of my posts were deleted by moderator, probably due to someone complaining.
I urge the moderators to be more careful with censorahip and posts deleting.

Compare to our main competition, we usually have much less threads under hardware main page.

[raskul]

People!

Give a burgeoning business a chance.

I've been in the media industry for 17 years and i feel a serious dejavu about all of this.

Final conclusion: censorship is bad.

Stop deleting posts.

I even had a post 'sorry for your loss'

Deleted.

Sick censorship is what's going on here.
Theymos, recognise that your moderators have an agenda and be more liberal in making sure your users are allowed to express an opinion.

[MrTeal]

I don't mind unlocking my thread, I primarily did it as a courtesy to Con and the forum. Discussion of the reviews hasn't transferred over to the main thread as I'd hoped though.

I'm pretty mixed on the whole thing. I don't think there needs to be 13 review threads in addition to all the others, and I am a little worried that it does set a bad precedent. On the other hand, while a lot of reviews were pretty similar, there were a good number that put a lot of effort into their and gave some good data; often more in depth in terms of things like efficiency curves than is available elsewhere. As a whole they did add value to the forum and are not just pointless spam like a lot of the sig campaign garbage.
If there was an elegant way to merge them I'd support that, but I can't think of a way to do it without it becoming a nightmare to read and follow.