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December 02, 2012, 01:39:55 PM
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how are we proving owner ship of shares?

edit: I have been away from the forum due to work and I have no contact from anyone relating to GLBSE and my assets

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December 02, 2012, 06:45:53 PM
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how are we proving owner ship of shares?

The last BFLS payment was September 30 ... counting today we missed 9 payments. I'd like to see dividend payments resume as well. Nefario has given SOME asset information to SOME issuers around November 19-22 but hasn't released much else (if anything) since. So far we've been waiting for the release of BFLS and BFLS.RIG info but at some point we need to accept that it may not be forthcoming and move forward with other means determining ownership.

How long we wait before moving to 'Plan B' is ultimately up to Inaba, but one way or another we should resolve this situation soon; by now there may be over a thousand BTC waiting to be distributed to shareholders (I'm not sure how many total outstanding BFLS and BFLS.RIG shares there are, but the per-share dividend payment over the 9 missed payment cycles works out to around 0.075-0.08 BTC/share). I'm sure many of us could use that supplementary income right now during the holiday season.

For those asset holders who regularly withdrew their BFLS dividend payments from GLBSE, I suggested one way a 'proof of ownership' could be done: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.msg1328310#msg1328310. For some this would be a reasonable option. Not everyone would be in a position to do this, however.

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December 03, 2012, 12:38:03 AM
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I really had some high hopes that we were at the end of this. 

I have what I *think* is a fairly accurate list of share holders in the database and ready to go.  I haven't gone with that list because there's no way to reverse it if it turns out to be wrong. 

That said, the list I have is about 320 shares MORE than what I believe were issued, so there's a discrepancy somewhere and it's what's been keeping me from going with the list.  Someones numbers aren't right, but I have no idea who's they might be. 

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 03, 2012, 03:53:04 AM
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I have what I *think* is a fairly accurate list of share holders in the database and ready to go. 
Is this a list compiled from the information Nefario provided you, or has he still not released share holder information for BFLS, BFLS.RIG? 

Also, are there any threads that track which stocks' share holder information has been released?  So we can at least see what progress Nefario has made.
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December 03, 2012, 05:16:11 AM
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It's a list I've put together from what people have sent me.  Someone just sent me 500 more shares, so the total is about 800 shares more than I had tallied before GLBSE went down... /sigh

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 03, 2012, 10:56:12 AM
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You can wait and compare with Nefario's list.
But I don't know if he is still that motivated...

"Nov 25 / 12:00pm - More lists coming out tomorrow"

If 99% of the claims match the list of Nefario then it's obvious that 1% is trying to scam you.
But knowing this community it's probably 10% or more that is trying to scam.

It seems obvious to me that people not on Nef's list filing a claim have to come up with strong evidence.
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December 03, 2012, 01:43:38 PM
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I have lost my 2 Factor Authentication of my GLBSE account. Nearly 2 months have passed, Nefario has not have the time to removed the 2FA, so I have not been able to claimed my shares.

And Nefario stated on the GLBSE page that he will return most of the lists before he can deal with the users who cannot login. So it will very be very likely that I'm not on the initial list which (if) will be given.

If Inaba get the list, please reserve those shares which are unclaimed, and don't pay the dividend out. Maybe this will bring some complexity into your script, you have record which shares has been paid how much dividend.

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December 03, 2012, 03:56:33 PM
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It's a list I've put together from what people have sent me.  Someone just sent me 500 more shares, so the total is about 800 shares more than I had tallied before GLBSE went down... /sigh

Yes, an unfortunate and unnecessary complication for yourself and the legit shareholders. Are these ~800 bogus shares all from BFLS.RIG, or are some from BFLS as well?

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December 03, 2012, 05:32:49 PM
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Going back through the list, it may not be as bad as I thought... I forgot I had combined some BFLS and RIG shares into one account for a few people as a test.  I will go back through the list and separate them out again and reconfirm the amounts.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 06, 2012, 04:53:25 AM
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I'm getting pretty close to a solution folks, so there's some good news.  I should hopefully have something workable within a week and I can resume normal business.  I will be relieved to get this behind us and move forward... the new system will be a lot better, too, since it should be all but automatic with payouts several times a week.


If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 06, 2012, 05:05:58 AM
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Going back through the list, it may not be as bad as I thought... I forgot I had combined some BFLS and RIG shares into one account for a few people as a test.  I will go back through the list and separate them out again and reconfirm the amounts.


Yes, Inaba. My 500 shares claim are combined BFLS and BFLS.rig. As I have seen these two shares the same one, and arbitrage between them frequently before GLBSE shutting down. So I don't really remember how many shares I have for each security.

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December 07, 2012, 03:43:18 AM
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Good news!  Grin Grin Grin

http://blog.glbse.com/asset-lists
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December 07, 2012, 04:12:45 AM
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Yep, I have the list... I need to get it correlated and then I will resume  operations.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 07, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
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It's a list I've put together from what people have sent me.  Someone just sent me 500 more shares, so the total is about 800 shares more than I had tallied before GLBSE went down... /sigh

well, i have shares for bfls and bfls.rig that i have not claimed too.


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Yep, I have the list... I need to get it correlated and then I will resume  operations.

Ahah!

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December 08, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
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Yep, I have the list... I need to get it correlated and then I will resume  operations.

Great! Happy times are here again Smiley

When can we expect more information ?
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December 08, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
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I hope by this weekend if I get a chance to finish and correlate everything.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 08, 2012, 08:46:21 PM
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Here's my list of share holders.  If you see something off let me know, but this is what I have and without some evidence to the contrary I am reluctant to go against this list.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtKoE07Urp8_dHFpUFVlcDVpeWVGUmUwZFY4WXpHbHc

Please contact me with your full BTC address to confirm your shares and account, so I can correlate my database to this list.  I will mark your column green once you've confirmed your shares.

For BFLS, I will be paying out accumulated dividends as well as the buyout of the hardware.  Because of the controversy in conversion and to make things easier and to fulfill the original contract as stipulated, I am choosing to go this route.  

I will then offer some RIG shares, quantity and price are as yet undetermined.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 08, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
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are you going to contact share holders by their email to confirm their address?

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December 08, 2012, 11:12:41 PM
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Yes, I'll try to get to that later tonight.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 09, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
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There are 3507 BFLS shares and 3819 BFLS.RIG shares - it's only the part of all shares.
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