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Author Topic: OVERVIEW: BITCOIN HARDWARE WALLETS █████████████████ Secure your Coins  (Read 122191 times)
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March 21, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
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thx Muhammed Zakir. fixed some things.  Smiley

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March 22, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
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thx Muhammed Zakir. fixed some things.  Smiley

Anytime. IMHO you should increase the font size from 4pt to 6pt. Now it is hardly noticed. Smiley

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March 24, 2015, 12:36:41 PM
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I think all these new Hardware Wallets are very good and very useful... But I do still feel the need to have a custom Cold only hardware wallet. Are there any companies or sellers specializing in such? Wallets based on Hardware like the Raspberry Pi? Is there even interest or a market for such?
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March 24, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
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kingcolex

You will probably like the Trezor, I certainly do.  (I also like the Ledger Nano that I have)

I do NOT have the latest Trezor firmware update, I *think* I read somewhere that someone ran into a problem...  Besides, I am lazy and never am in a hurry to update software, etc.

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At some point I hope to see a thread on people's satisfaction with their hardware wallets.  I very much like both the Trezor and Ledger Nano, both seem to be about equally good products and about equally easy to use.
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March 28, 2015, 07:58:48 AM
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How to protect hardware wallets against tampering

https://medium.com/@Ledger/how-to-protect-hardware-wallets-against-tampering-cad35cb72c1

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March 28, 2015, 06:30:00 PM
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Nice article Smiley I seriously hope nobody finds a way to bypass these kinds of things... Although it's probably just a question of time before someone does.
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March 29, 2015, 12:16:47 AM
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Someone here show me how to use Trezor Please !

Thanks !
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March 29, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
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Is this protection applied with only their web wallet or does all wallet software have to challenge the device first?
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March 29, 2015, 09:06:50 AM
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Is this protection applied with only their web wallet or does all wallet software have to challenge the device first?

Attestation is an API call on the hardware device, and it is up to the software wallet to implement it or not. Right now, only the Ledger Chrome application embeds attestation.

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March 29, 2015, 09:35:10 AM
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Hi lalaisen, have several manuals on the net about the use of hardware wallet of Trezor , on their official website that they wrote find , you can see it here: http://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-user/index.html
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March 29, 2015, 11:36:23 PM
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Thank you, LiteCoinGuy, an excellent article.  I am happy that the Ledger guys thought ahead re security for their device.

I will probably go ahead and buy another one...    Smiley
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March 30, 2015, 01:08:31 AM
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thanks for the list and i guess people can see where is room for improvement i have heared a lot about trezor though but its really costly i would say
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March 30, 2015, 11:35:53 PM
Last edit: March 31, 2015, 12:08:32 AM by dasource
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Appreciate you keeping this updated. Thanks

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April 07, 2015, 01:07:12 PM
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Another suggestion: Please add "Source code" to the overview of wallets and mention whether it is Open or Partially-open or Closed.

This will also help users when choosing. Adding link to the source code is appropriated. Thank you!

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April 07, 2015, 04:33:15 PM
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By the way Blackarrow is deleting all post in their thread who point out their item is just a trezor clone and shouldn't be bought.

i ve lost a stash of coins with BA, and i d never order from them again. espscially not an hardware wallet. I don't want to suspect them anything, but i just say that they haven't been serious in the past so i doubt that they are serious now. And business which involves BTC should be taken damn-serious.

@OP: thanks for the great overview. I d like to see the info Muhammed Zakir suggested you to add. If the wallets are open-source or proprietary-source. And you may add a warning to the BA e-Wallet until its properly checked and audited...
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April 10, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
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By the way Blackarrow is deleting all post in their thread who point out their item is just a trezor clone and shouldn't be bought.

I would never trust them with my coins, they scammed a lot of people, and i doubt their wallet is "clean".
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April 10, 2015, 06:50:49 PM
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Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR

http://johoe.mooo.com/trezor-power-analysis/
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April 10, 2015, 10:39:31 PM
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It's definitely not ridiculous and I can only wish we'll get more people testing that kind of complex issues. Congrats to johoe for taking the time to both demonstrate and fix it.

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April 11, 2015, 06:28:57 AM
Last edit: April 11, 2015, 01:32:58 PM by dsattler
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Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR

http://johoe.mooo.com/trezor-power-analysis/

AFAIK if you used the PIN code passphrase feature, that attack is useless. Therefore the PIN is now mandatory.

Edit: sorry, I mixed the passphrase with the PIN code. PIN code is now mandatory to make it more secure, even if you don't use a passphrase.

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April 11, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
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Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR

http://johoe.mooo.com/trezor-power-analysis/

Big respect !

Do you think that this HW wallet is more protected ?
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