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December 20, 2014, 10:09:10 AM |
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What do you mean some closed code? Ive seen good reviews on Ledger and have been considering grabbing a couple.
As written a few posts before: The Ledger Wallet Chrome application is open source ( https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-wallet-chrome), but the firmware is closed source (NDAs prevents us to reveal some internals related to the secure chip). However, thanks to the complete specifications ( https://github.com/LedgerHQ/btchip-doc) you can verify that the device is doing what it should, since it is using deterministic signatures and that clients follow the specification. Checking this by yourself should give you enough confidence to use it. As we are based on a secure element, any client application can attest the legitimacy of the Nano. This means that you get the proof that you have in your hands a genuine Nano and not a "remplacement" switched by a third party during transportation. My opinion is that Trezor is THE most secure hardware wallet of those available today or in the distant future.
FYI, your trezor affiliate code in your signature is broken.
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astrobitcoin
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December 20, 2014, 01:51:57 PM |
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wow this ledger wallet could very well be my personal xmas present ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i would like to know: when is going to be produced next model with nda and screen? will the price be similar?
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December 20, 2014, 01:54:25 PM |
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wow this ledger wallet could very well be my personal xmas present ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i would like to know: when is going to be produced next model with nda and screen? will the price be similar? good question. would like that too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . i would estimate they release that in mid 2015 and the price could be 50-65 Euro.
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December 20, 2014, 02:14:03 PM |
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I like the ledger wallet.
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EricKennedy
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December 20, 2014, 02:28:56 PM |
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when is going to be produced next model with nda and screen? will the price be similar?
As you can see, we are deep into the prototyping of our next generation wallets: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQT9rJGXl.jpg&t=665&c=apH4MxNyfjcrzg) We are working on a few different products, with a mix of embedded screens, NFC, BLE and USB. They will of course be based on a secure element, but will also integrate a regular ARM microcontroller with full open source capabilities (hobbyist and enthousiasts will be able to have a 100% open dev platform, the SE being deactivated in this case). It is too soon to speak about retail price, but as our vision is to build a global decentralized digital identity security provider, you can expect the lowest realistic price possible. First demonstrations will be done during the CES in January (if you are around, come visit us on our booth #21925). We plan production release between June and September 2015.
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December 20, 2014, 06:10:43 PM |
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thx for that info ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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kkurtmann
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December 20, 2014, 07:56:24 PM |
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What do you mean some closed code? Ive seen good reviews on Ledger and have been considering grabbing a couple.
As written a few posts before: The Ledger Wallet Chrome application is open source ( https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-wallet-chrome), but the firmware is closed source (NDAs prevents us to reveal some internals related to the secure chip). However, thanks to the complete specifications ( https://github.com/LedgerHQ/btchip-doc) you can verify that the device is doing what it should, since it is using deterministic signatures and that clients follow the specification. Checking this by yourself should give you enough confidence to use it. As we are based on a secure element, any client application can attest the legitimacy of the Nano. This means that you get the proof that you have in your hands a genuine Nano and not a "remplacement" switched by a third party during transportation. My opinion is that Trezor is THE most secure hardware wallet of those available today or in the distant future.
FYI, your trezor affiliate code in your signature is broken. Thanks Eric. I know this fact, and it doesn't bother me.
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December 22, 2014, 10:35:11 AM |
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Please have a look at this Hardware Cold Wallet. It is very cheap if you already own a Raspberry Pi. http://coldpi.com/or http://www.pi-wallet.com/pages/build-your-own-pi-wallet
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December 22, 2014, 10:45:51 AM |
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Seems pretty pricey for what it is. But a fun project to do yourself.
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LiteCoinGuy (OP)
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December 26, 2014, 09:17:55 PM |
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Seems pretty pricey for what it is. But a fun project to do yourself. pricey and not made for the "average joe". ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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December 26, 2014, 09:25:14 PM |
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thx for these extensive explanation. its always hard to make categories like these above because when you do this, you have to go into details ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) i want to make a short overview about the existing hardware wallets. i dont recommend one over the other. maybe i will remove this category because its not accurate and makes too much work. Perhaps you can change it to something like "security verifiable by third party" or something. BTW, please delete picolo's useless full OP quote, at least until he learns how to use quote tags and stops posting just to spam his sig.
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December 28, 2014, 05:43:13 PM |
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I vouch for Trazor they are awesome. May have to snap up all of the others though to satisfy my geek side ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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To peel or not to peel.
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December 28, 2014, 06:19:24 PM |
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Can anyone recommend the Hardbit Wallet?
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To peel or not to peel.
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December 29, 2014, 07:49:13 PM |
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i've never knew about that, thanks for letting me know. some of them are nice, but some of them too robotic
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picolo
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December 29, 2014, 08:44:04 PM |
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i've never knew about that, thanks for letting me know. some of them are nice, but some of them too robotic
Trezor is nice but a simple encrypted paper wallet printed on paper that resist to water is safe too even if it doesn't have all the functions of Trezor.
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December 29, 2014, 09:57:29 PM |
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I can recommend Ledger Wallet too!
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kkurtmann
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December 30, 2014, 05:43:03 AM |
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i've never knew about that, thanks for letting me know. some of them are nice, but some of them too robotic
Trezor is nice but a simple encrypted paper wallet printed on paper that resist to water is safe too even if it doesn't have all the functions of Trezor. ...until you go to spend it and your compromised computer steals your coin.
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December 30, 2014, 06:14:28 PM |
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January 01, 2015, 02:23:01 PM |
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Just got my ledger, nice and easy to set up ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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