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botany (OP)
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December 24, 2014, 08:55:54 AM |
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ACCUSATION1) btcmaze ran a failed ponzi here. The scheme was closed under the threat of negative feedback. No negative feedback was given since nobody invested / lost money in the scheme 2) ndhnc acted as the escrow for the ponzi schemeSince both accounts are controlled by the same person and posts may be deleted, I am quoting the full conversation here. Interested to be an escrow marcotheminer, ndnhc, tomatocage are in. pls post addresses.
First two to post below of those 3, with addresses, will be sent 10 mBTC each as escrow.
Confirmed. First time I am doing escrow. Ponzi closed. ndnhc, Plz send 0.01 BTC to 1P3KBVSdGdtYhgrfFQvt6k3nEeuJkUQPVW That was fast. You closed it? d0eaa24f88f314062de8d50d199908fd766676f0f07b6e8561a0f1deefa74ab6 sent. had to pay tx fee. now 0.0099 btc sent ty received it added trust. Some said i will never see that btc again 3) Based on this, btcmaze has left positive feedback to ndnhc for acting as an escrow. I also notice that Watoshi-Dimobuto has left positive feedback with the comments "Helped me. Straight and honest.". 4) Another post, where you have alts talking to each other and confirming problems can be found here.
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botany (OP)
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December 24, 2014, 08:56:27 AM |
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In my opinion, running a ponzi scheme, using an alt as an escrow, leaving false feedback, etc indicate that this person is likely to scam given an opportunity. Flagging it for those in the default trust list to take a view. Of course, if there is any flaw in my logic/views, I am prepared for a deluge of criticism.
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botany (OP)
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December 24, 2014, 03:01:17 PM |
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I was slightly off. He is not a potential scammer; he is a scammer. A little bit of digging revealed this. Will post additional details.
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ndnh
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December 24, 2014, 03:52:31 PM |
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You are crazy. I know watoshi-dimobuto. I don't know any of the rest. How can I be 5 active persons.
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madmax6688
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December 24, 2014, 03:54:46 PM |
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Has he scammed or are you profiling him as a scammer?
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December 24, 2014, 03:55:25 PM Last edit: December 25, 2014, 07:25:25 AM by botany |
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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December 25, 2014, 07:29:11 AM |
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Watoshi Investigation.
Facts:
STEP 2) All Players (FREE Bitcoins)
Reply to this post with "Your Personal Deposit Address" provided in the game. After we verify it's a legit gaming address, within the next 24 hours (most likely sooner). We'll fund your account with 250,000 FREE
Result: Theses addresses did not belong to either Jefe541 or ndnhc. It was of satoshicircle
Conclusion: Hence I have nothing to do with jefe or anyone.
Note: the linked transaction was made, because it belonged to satoshicircle.
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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December 25, 2014, 07:58:17 AM |
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Proved 4 wrong. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831020.msg9286551#msg9286551It is my address. I won a no fees promotion with that address. OP is stupid. Doesn't read anything in any thread. Promotion: the first deposit to the one of the two arrows will get fee free forever with your special bitcoin address.
There are two lucky men, Come on!
i sent to both since i didn't get the meaning properly. you said "one of the two arrows" but i think you meant both Congratulations! by not sure about one or two,you lucky get both. and from now you can deal with our game without fee with the really special address 13cb4Kr96TXiw59FNAN8vvkK63R38KVGCi
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btcmaze
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December 25, 2014, 10:04:34 AM |
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HOW THE HELL DID I COME ON THIS LIST? I am an alt? Of a fairly trusted guy? That is bad?? But it should be good? I hate this forum. I am going to quit
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s1ng
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December 25, 2014, 02:03:40 PM |
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HOW THE HELL DID I COME ON THIS LIST? I am an alt? Of a fairly trusted guy? That is bad?? But it should be good? I hate this forum. I am going to quit Because your address all connected to the botany's accusation. If something connected then you're also connected to other one. Blockchain is chaining many address till the end maybe you should prove that you're right...just like other suspect / victim
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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December 25, 2014, 02:14:03 PM |
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HOW THE HELL DID I COME ON THIS LIST? I am an alt? Of a fairly trusted guy? That is bad?? But it should be good? I hate this forum. I am going to quit Because your address all connected to the botany's accusation. If something connected then you're also connected to other one. Blockchain is chaining many address till the end maybe you should prove that you're right...just like other suspect / victim It is no use. Botany is playing like a game. He accused everyone of being a scammers alt. I proved him wrong. He just unlocked this one, then. If you solve this one, he will probably make another accusation. Now there is no issue.There are no scammers in the list. So no need to worry. I am waiting for Tomatocage to come back online and remove these trusts.
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December 25, 2014, 06:15:46 PM |
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Watoshi Investigation.
Facts:
STEP 2) All Players (FREE Bitcoins)
Reply to this post with "Your Personal Deposit Address" provided in the game. After we verify it's a legit gaming address, within the next 24 hours (most likely sooner). We'll fund your account with 250,000 FREE
Result: Theses addresses did not belong to either Jefe541 or ndnhc. It was of satoshicircle
Conclusion: Hence I have nothing to do with jefe or anyone.
Note: the linked transaction was made, because it belonged to satoshicircle.
I am pretty sure you are wrong about this. I don't see anything about satoshicircle in any of the first three threads referenced. Plus one of the referenced posts was from a loan request witch is unlikely going to be made to a website address
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December 25, 2014, 08:02:11 PM |
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Read the posts closely of watoshi and btcupdown in the game thread....don't know if they're the same person but they DEF at least know each other in real life...
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ndnh
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December 26, 2014, 03:50:10 AM |
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Watoshi Investigation.
Facts:
STEP 2) All Players (FREE Bitcoins)
Reply to this post with "Your Personal Deposit Address" provided in the game. After we verify it's a legit gaming address, within the next 24 hours (most likely sooner). We'll fund your account with 250,000 FREE
Result: Theses addresses did not belong to either Jefe541 or ndnhc. It was of satoshicircle
Conclusion: Hence I have nothing to do with jefe or anyone.
Note: the linked transaction was made, because it belonged to satoshicircle.
I am pretty sure you are wrong about this. I don't see anything about satoshicircle in any of the first three threads referenced. Plus one of the referenced posts was from a loan request witch is unlikely going to be made to a website address Plz understand that the proof is for the other accusation he made. Quoting it here: Watoshi proved that no one is related to Jf person, who is a scammer.Tomatocage has removed the negative trust. Thanks to Watoshi-Dibomuto
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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December 26, 2014, 04:36:17 AM |
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Read the posts closely of watoshi and btcupdown in the game thread....don't know if they're the same person but they DEF at least know each other in real life...
I absolutely don't know who he is. I happened to be the first person to use the site and got the NO FEE promotion with my address which is mentiones against btcupdown.com. which is actually MINE. The promotion is I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE, IN THE GAME, IF I USE THAT ADDRESS TO SEND. SOURCE ADDRESS IS USED TO IDENTIFY THE PLAYER. In the accusation: the blockchain addresses are right. Most of the address posted against a user are WRONG. Most are either mine or some other external site's.
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December 26, 2014, 04:41:40 AM |
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Read the posts closely of watoshi and btcupdown in the game thread....don't know if they're the same person but they DEF at least know each other in real life...
I absolutely don't know who he is. I happened to be the first person to use the site and got the NO FEE promotion with my address which is mentiones against btcupdown.com. which is actually MINE. The promotion is I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE, IN THE GAME, IF I USE THAT ADDRESS TO SEND. SOURCE ADDRESS IS USED TO IDENTIFY THE PLAYER. In the accusation: the blockchain addresses are right. Most of the address posted against a user are WRONG. Most are either mine or some other external site's. This is one major problem with participating in 'giveaways' by gambling sites. They provide very little benefit to the user (you) but expose you to risks similar to this (being linked to scammers in the future). I would say that it is somewhat suspicious that you both deposited bitcoin to the site at close enough to the same time that they combined balances in all three addresses to send a tx to another of their addresses, I wouldn't say it is enough evidence to say that you are both one and the same. Maybe satoshicircle can advise if there is IP evidence linking the two of you together.
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LitecoinMyAss
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December 26, 2014, 04:45:07 AM |
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OP was right except for Watoshi. Good job, but not everything was correct.
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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December 26, 2014, 04:49:35 AM |
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Read the posts closely of watoshi and btcupdown in the game thread....don't know if they're the same person but they DEF at least know each other in real life...
I absolutely don't know who he is. I happened to be the first person to use the site and got the NO FEE promotion with my address which is mentiones against btcupdown.com. which is actually MINE. The promotion is I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE, IN THE GAME, IF I USE THAT ADDRESS TO SEND. SOURCE ADDRESS IS USED TO IDENTIFY THE PLAYER. In the accusation: the blockchain addresses are right. Most of the address posted against a user are WRONG. Most are either mine or some other external site's. This is one major problem with participating in 'giveaways' by gambling sites. They provide very little benefit to the user (you) but expose you to risks similar to this (being linked to scammers in the future). I would say that it is somewhat suspicious that you both deposited bitcoin to the site at close enough to the same time that they combined balances in all three addresses to send a tx to another of their addresses, I wouldn't say it is enough evidence to say that you are both one and the same. Maybe satoshicircle can advise if there is IP evidence linking the two of you together. I don't think you get the idea properly. Accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525975.msg9935220#msg9935220The only people who understand what is happening right now is me and botany. Non one else is a scammer except for jf guy.
all negative trust was added for being alt of jfguy, WHICH IS PROVED FALSE.
It is difficult to prove the wallet transaction for clam between me and ndhc, because it was done outside and i refuse access to my emaill to anyone.
btcupdown never scammed anyone. it is inactive now. no one lost money. trust feedback was given for being the alt, whcih was disproved, not for scamming anyone.
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