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August 04, 2015, 07:54:46 AM
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Good work man,thanks !
Now wait what Cinni says.
I know he wants to cooperate but his reactions are not very quick sometimes.
If more people like this idea't just post that then it convienced Cinni to make the next steps.


Yes, I like . It is better to have some development.



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August 04, 2015, 08:11:59 AM
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Good work man,thanks !
Now wait what Cinni says.
I know he wants to cooperate but his reactions are not very quick sometimes.
If more people like this idea't just post that then it convienced Cinni to make the next steps.


Yes, I like . It is better to have some development.



i like any development better than none, sound like a competition would attract people which is what we need - i'd still like to hear more from cinnicoin on if he is still working on anything for the coin?
i believe cinncoin contacted exchanges to get stakecoin added but didn't get a response - i think we need to work harder on getting more exchanges - i still believe cinnicoin has a chance with the exchanges that still have cinnicoin listed
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August 04, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
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The idea of monitoring nodes online and give some reward is easy to create.
Stakecoin Blockchain Explorer has an API that we can use for that application.
Tagging wallets to users is also not very dificult to implement.
We need a simple website for StakeCoin where you can rigister your wallet address and then rest is simple.
Only the the top25 has to donate a large % of their Stake-reward to the Stake-fund for rewarding in time or just luck to get more people involved without much StakeCoin staking their wallets.
If we have 50 nodes online then we can enter easy an exchange.
For voting we can also give a reward if needed.


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August 05, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
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This community has 10 days left to get more nodes online!
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network
Only 5 connections and when I go on my holidays then I turn of my PC's.
Maybe the network survive, this is a great developed currency technical but social StakeCoin is more dead then alive.
A VPS node cost about 10 $ per month so that is not much but it is not my call to arrange that.
CinniCoin if you are interested to cooperate with EnergyCoin then give us a sign that you want to work serious on the development.
Holders of STK can exchange some of their STK for ENRG with me if they wish but first I want to see a secure network after my holidays.

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August 05, 2015, 03:16:50 PM
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Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.


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August 05, 2015, 09:11:31 PM
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Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.
Yes I understand but I try hard to get more wallets online and it seems no success yet.
CinniCoin has PM me and he has to post here soon or send me PM.
A few days ago more than 10 nodes online and why stopped staking?
I thing I have a great plan and get no support then I know it is time to leave.
It is not an experiment but serious plans I presented to CinniCoin and some here in the topic.

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August 05, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
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Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.
Yes I understand but I try hard to get more wallets online and it seems no success yet.
CinniCoin has PM me and he has to post here soon or send me PM.
A few days ago more than 10 nodes online and why stopped staking?
I thing I have a great plan and get no support then I know it is time to leave.
It is not an experiment but serious plans I presented to CinniCoin and some here in the topic.

I understand too ,  but many people here waiting for what he would say cinni dev for development , I think so.



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August 05, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
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I think just have some patience.
Maybe Cinnicoinis is on holidays.
I see now 7 connections: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network
Keep on staking that is the way to survive.

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Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.
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August 06, 2015, 05:59:19 AM
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Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.
Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.

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Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.
Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.


No it's not a new feature.
So stakecoin did not invent it or anything.
It has been done by like 100 coins. So it's not a big deal.
But it has the idea that you are wanting, about rewarding those who stake frequently more than people who stake not frequently.

But, hard forks should be avoided so if i was going to add this then it would need to be with other things that need a hard fork too to package them in one.
So an update including this would be months away.
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August 06, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
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Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.
Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.


No it's not a new feature.
So stakecoin did not invent it or anything.
It has been done by like 100 coins. So it's not a big deal.
But it has the idea that you are wanting, about rewarding those who stake frequently more than people who stake not frequently.

But, hard forks should be avoided so if i was going to add this then it would need to be with other things that need a hard fork too to package them in one.
So an update including this would be months away.
Ok that is clear and good for community to know what they can expect in the future it creates value and trust.
Is it really necessary a hard-fork for this?
It can also have a lotto espect if we want that to include.
A random number of a block get more reward per day.
Is it also posible to monitor the wallet online-time with the API of the Block Exporer and use that for extra rewards?
With a seperate script it is posible but can it be coded into wallet clients?

Some other questions I want to ask you here:
- can you create a StakeCoin... website with some info we want to share?
- Is twitter @StakeCoin from you?

Edit: I realy like if you can add "setstakesplitthreshold" (send you the info by PM)
I have now two weeks 24/7 a 8k STK wallet online and grows rapitly.
I merged some blocks into a new block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258127.htm
I think a block of 1 STK must not be splited after getting a PoS-Stake.

A tip for the community to split out coins over more wallets and use then dumpprivkey and create a dedicated wallet with importprivkey the extra addresses.
For blockexplorer the rich list gives more distribution and you can controll seperate addresses with the seperate wallets.
So not create extra addresses into one wallet but use importprivkey from several wallets.
You get then this:

And the 5 wallet addresses I fill from the start wallet.
Check this block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258122.htm
And this one: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258121.htm

The resuld

My donation wallet is also active but very fragmeted and I know CinniCoin can easy implement setstakesplitthreshold no fork needed for that.
I check how quick this wallet is fragmeted I thik 1 or two weeks.

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August 07, 2015, 07:02:27 AM
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Hi Stakeholders,

I did an investigate with the block explorer on the rich wallet distribution.
Check this:

Source: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!wallets
I colloured the wallets that the must belong to one holder.
They did the same as me discribed in the previous post: create a wallet export the addres with dumprivkey and import into a new wallet.
On basis of that you can group the wallets becouse of the time-stamp ofline.
I know CinniCoin is #2 but he is also 6,7 and 12 to total STK he owns is 212k STK
Number 4 owns also 13 so total 89 STK
Number 10 owns also 14 and 15 so total 112 STK

Why are these big coin holders not online the past 5 days?
I'm happy with the donations I got to secure the network but the big wallets must also stake 24/7!

Tip: Link to source for tipbot: https://github.com/mohland/dogetipbot
I think forking is not needed but you have to develop someting soon CinniCoin! and I give you much sugestions.
We can work on a PI-wallet, a webwallet and much more.

Why I put all the effort in reanimate StakeCoin and I have only 1% of stake?
I see value for cooperate with some other coins to create a platform.
See it as a Supernet solution for enviriomental PoS-currencies.
I have a very skillfull developer behind me working on bigger plan called: "Internet of Coins".
EnergyCoin, StakeCoin and OrangeCoin can be one of the first coins into that framework.
CinniCoin and community give me a serious sign that you want work together!
I can spend my time to other strategies if I see no progress in what I have in mind.

EDIT:
Only 5 nonnections and 42.9% of the coins staking are mine!

Source: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network
This looks very bad and must change quick!

I made a tweet for this wallet-online map (version EnergyCoin)
https://twitter.com/GEO_Jan/status/629603812613996544
I can also tweet the StakeCoin version but then we need more nodes online first.


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Okay I have 11 coonnection:
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[
{
"addr" : "88.198.12.244:49558",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952888,
"bytessent" : 396259,
"bytesrecv" : 550441,
"conntime" : 1438920227,
"pingtime" : 0.10938000,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259000,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : true
},
{
"addr" : "95.85.1.183:45547",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952903,
"bytessent" : 130452,
"bytesrecv" : 921482,
"conntime" : 1438920227,
"pingtime" : 0.14063200,
"version" : 60015,
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"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259000,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "149.202.137.169:41513",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952903,
"bytessent" : 424695,
"bytesrecv" : 657071,
"conntime" : 1438920227,
"pingtime" : 0.01563000,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
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},
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"addr" : "75.130.163.51:56345",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952912,
"lastrecv" : 1438952912,
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},
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"addr" : "24.47.108.203:50583",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
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"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259000,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "137.224.252.10:30700",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952879,
"bytessent" : 349676,
"bytesrecv" : 259371,
"conntime" : 1438920323,
"pingtime" : 0.09375100,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259000,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "87.204.149.94:58707",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952825,
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"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259049,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "[2001:0:9d38:6ab8:307c:42b:e7d0:9334]:16814",
"addrlocal" : "[2001:0:5ef5:79fd:1005:d7d:2ad1:3a12]:52881",
"services" : "00000001",
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"lastrecv" : 1438952903,
"bytessent" : 119249,
"bytesrecv" : 211732,
"conntime" : 1438923759,
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"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 259053,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "128.0.89.97:53060",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952879,
"bytessent" : 173859,
"bytesrecv" : 110246,
"conntime" : 1438936832,
"pingtime" : 0.06249600,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 259252,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "207.245.41.195:15023",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952904,
"lastrecv" : 1438952898,
"bytessent" : 11831728,
"bytesrecv" : 1116254,
"conntime" : 1438952558,
"pingtime" : 6.04687900,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 231733,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
{
"addr" : "207.245.41.195:49938",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438952909,
"lastrecv" : 1438952909,
"bytessent" : 6657406,
"bytesrecv" : 400066,
"conntime" : 1438952585,
"pingtime" : 4.76562600,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 231733,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
}
]
And https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network gives 6 connections.
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August 14, 2015, 11:45:09 AM
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Blockexplorer gives now also 11 connections.
Very nice. I have to shut down my PC for hollydays but I think StakeCoin can survive!
I hope on some updates soon from CinniCoin and then we are ready for the future.
Back in 3 weeks.

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August 30, 2015, 01:25:17 PM
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I'm still on Holliday but I see this now:

Is stakecoin dead now?
I hope CinniCoin can restart.
Send him a PM.
I have no pc online to support.

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I'm still on Holliday but I see this now:

Is stakecoin dead now?
I hope CinniCoin can restart.
Send him a PM.
I have no pc online to support.
Hi
I will ask the block explorer if its a block explorer problem or a blockchain problem.
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I'm still on Holliday but I see this now:

Is stakecoin dead now?
I hope CinniCoin can restart.
Send him a PM.
I have no pc online to support.
Hi
I will ask the block explorer if its a block explorer problem or a blockchain problem.


Blockchain (or stakers?) problem, the explorer wallet up, though with only few connections (3, germany, north carolina & france), and they are all at the same height.

As you can see in the extraction tab, 98% of the last 100 blocks were by rich list #16, so that's only one staker, or the network forked...
There was a high number of orphans up to the 22 (meaning the network was fragile, and/or the explorer wallet was acting as go-between between two different geo-locations, like asia/europe vs US), the orphans went down drastically on the 23, so a fork is possible, or several stakers went offline at the same time.

The explorer's wallet sees no other chain in its peers, but there may be some addnode that could help.


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August 31, 2015, 07:03:58 AM
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Are there options to restart?
Only 1 connection: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#
There where 2 POS events after the Blockchain stuck.
I can't help with node now.
In one week I'm back home and can restart my PC.

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It looks like its back to normal now.
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