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August 23, 2010, 06:59:27 PM
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Do you accept Bitcoin?

Not at this time / No determined interest
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DeviantArt
NewEgg
ThinkGeek.com
xkcd

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bandcamp.com
ipredator.se
Penny Arcade
PokerStars.com
Saturday Morning Breakfast club

Not contacted yet
AppleGeeks.com
Cyanide & Happiness
Etsy.com
Girls With Slingshots (mention donations in Bitcoin)
MegaGear.com
Topatoco.com


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- I realize asking same question "Do you accept Bitcoin?" over and over seems repetitive and is also obvious (in most/all) cases that it is not accepted.  However it is a simple, short question that may be useful to introducing Bitcoin without writing too much.  KISS in effect.

Update: Perhaps I can pursue another approach besides asking if Bitcoin are accepted; something informational presenting Bitcoin; something similar to http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804.0  Actually, I think asking if they accept Bitcoin is helpful enough to introduce existence of Bitcoin and potentially incentivize researching without any expressed effort on my part.  It is also likely that by asking or otherwise mentioning Bitcoin from only one person or a couple persons will not produce enough incentive to do anything about it, but if enough interrest is accumulated, perhaps then there will be more consideration to establish accepting Bitcoin.  I, for one, would put forth extra effort to buy things simply because of acceptance of Bitcoin.

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August 23, 2010, 07:04:15 PM
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02:00:10 PM :  Connected with Vanna. Your reference number for this chat session is 1775513.
02:00:10 PM :  Hello my name is Vanna. How may I help you today?
02:00:34 PM : Mizery De Aria: Do you accept Bitcoins as payment for your products/services?
02:01:48 PM : Vanna: I would be glad to assist you with that. Our payment methods include Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover. You can also pay using Newegg Preferred Account, Newegg Gift Card, Bill Me Later, Paypal, Check, or Money Order. Please be advised that no international credit cards are accepted and Canadian credit cards can only be used on Newegg.ca.
02:02:43 PM : Mizery De Aria: Do you know if there is any consideration or research into potentially accepting Bitcoins for payment for your products/services?
02:03:43 PM : Vanna: Is it a kind of credit card?
02:05:00 PM : Mizery De Aria: No, it is a peer-to-peer network based digital currency. http://bitcoin.org

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04:04:51 PM :  Connected with Sophie. Your reference number for this chat session is 1776033.
04:04:51 PM :  Hello my name is Sophie. How may I help you today?
04:05:04 PM : Mizery De Aria: I lost my connection to previous chat session 1775513
04:05:30 PM : Mizery De Aria: My last message that I sent was "No, it is a peer-to-peer network based digital currency. http://bitcoin.org" and I missed everything that was said afterwards. Are you able to relay what I missed?
04:07:21 PM : Sophie: I would be glad to further assist you since your chat was disconnected with Vanna. How may I assist you with?
04:07:45 PM : Mizery De Aria: Are you able to relay any messages she had sent to me that I missed?
04:08:27 PM : Sophie: She sent you nothing as your chat was discounted.
04:08:36 PM : Sophie: disconnected*
04:08:50 PM : Mizery De Aria: Okay.
04:09:04 PM : Mizery De Aria: I will ask again with you then.
4:09:05 PM : Mizery De Aria: Do you accept Bitcoins as payment for your products/services?
04:10:02 PM : Sophie: Our payment methods include Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover. You can also pay using Newegg Preferred Account, Newegg Gift Card, Bill Me Later, Paypal, Check, or Money Order. Please be advised that no international credit cards are accepted and Canadian credit cards, Paypal and American Express can only be used on Newegg.ca.
04:10:34 PM : Mizery De Aria: Do you know if there is any consideration or research into potentially accepting Bitcoins for payment for your products/services?
04:11:57 PM : Sophie: Unfortunately, we are not given such information. Once Bitcoins is considered as our payment, it will be posted on our site. You may check the site online.
04:13:58 PM : Mizery De Aria: I believe that is all other than one more question. Do you know which department I, or someone else, may contact to discuss future potential for accepting Bitcoin as a method of payment?
04:15:52 PM : Sophie: You can send an email to one of our customer service agent and we will forward it to our related team
04:16:32 PM : Sophie: My email address is Sophie.Y.Wang@newegg.com.
04:16:32 PM : Sophie: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
04:17:18 PM : Mizery De Aria: That is all. Thank you Sophie! ^_^

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To: Sophie.Y.Wang@newegg.com
Subject: Bitcoin

Hello Sophie,

  Sophie: You can send an email to one of our customer service agent and we will forward it to our related team

  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10863#msg10863

Sincerely,
Mizery

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for this information. I have forwarded your email to our related department to consider. If interested, they will most likely contact you at the email address you wrote us from.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you.
 
Your friend from Newegg,
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Dear Customer,

I was informed by our related department that at the present time we are not looking for any new payment options. Thank you for your suggestion.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you.
 
Your friend from Newegg,
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August 23, 2010, 07:14:20 PM
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Nice work, and a wonderful start.  I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started to do the same thing at Newegg.  Would a number of geeks looking to buy via Bitcoins get their attention?

I would also like to read the remainder of the conversation, if you are willing to share it.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 23, 2010, 07:16:59 PM
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Gah, I am experiencing such horrendous system lag and instability that I lost the connection and will try again once I figure out what is causing my system to fail.
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August 23, 2010, 07:38:36 PM
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I suggested bitcoin as a means of currency to pokerstars.com. They have 5 million free tables, why not have a couple bitcoin tables?

Here was the response, probably nothing comes of it:

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Dear Valued Player,

Thank you for your email.

We always strive to make PokerStars the best poker site on the web. In order
to achieve this goal, we welcome the suggestions and feedback from all of
our valued players.

That is why we have already forwarded your email to the department in charge
for consideration.

We thank you for your support and cooperation towards making PokerStars the
number one poker site available.

Should you have further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to
contact us again.

Regards,

Carlos M
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August 23, 2010, 07:53:41 PM
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I suggested bitcoin as a means of currency to pokerstars.com. They have 5 million free tables, why not have a couple bitcoin tables?

Here was the response, probably nothing comes of it:



Looks like a standard email response form to me.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 23, 2010, 08:03:25 PM
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I suggested bitcoin as a means of currency to pokerstars.com. They have 5 million free tables, why not have a couple bitcoin tables?

Here was the response, probably nothing comes of it:



Looks like a standard email response form to me.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath.

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August 23, 2010, 08:25:09 PM
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I suggested bitcoin as a means of currency to pokerstars.com. They have 5 million free tables, why not have a couple bitcoin tables?

Here was the response, probably nothing comes of it:



Looks like a standard email response form to me.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath.

Not to mention pokerstars is notoriously slow for adopting new things. Their affiliate program took forever to offer rake and still do not allow them to offer rakeback. Granted they are the fastest and most stable with IMHO the best cashout procedure. A better option might be the Merge Network(Carbon poker is one of the skins of many) and/or FullTilt for quick adoption.
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August 23, 2010, 09:30:57 PM
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http://bitcoin.org
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1: I had contacted ipredator.se
1: no response from ipredator.se
2: hrm... too bad. but maybe they're thinking about it... or maybe your email went to spam.
3: ill just be very patient then or something
2: 1: here's a suggestion: make a nice writeup about how great of a match bitcoin+ipredator would be... and try submitting it as an article to slashdot.
1: I am contemplating something like that, but I would like assistance in the write up ^_^
1: And not just for ipredator, but for others too.
2: hm yea
2: 1: well if you do the first draft, i'll help you out from there.

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#?: if your writeup is more general, talking about other services where anonymity is paramount, and where bitcoin may be a good fit, maybe that'll have an even better chance of making it
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August 23, 2010, 09:43:32 PM
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August 23, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
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You are now chatting with 'Rob'
Rob: Hi, how can I help you?
Mizery De Aria: Do you accept Bitcoins as a method of payment for your products?
Rob: We do not. We only accept major debit or credit cards, PayPal, and check or money orders.
Mizery De Aria: Do you know if there is any consideration or research into potentially accepting Bitcoins for payment for your products?
Rob: At this point I don't believe there is, no.
Rob: Is there anything else we can do to assist you?
Mizery De Aria: Is it possible you may escalate the idea of accepting Bitcoin and perhaps researching whether or not it is viable for your business?
Rob: I will bring it to the attention of our web development team, you bet!
Mizery De Aria: Thank you. That is all. ^_^
Rob: Have a great day!!!
Mizery De Aria: Actually, last thing: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10897#msg10897
Mizery De Aria: You too!
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August 23, 2010, 09:56:59 PM
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Do you accept Bitcoins as payment for your premium membership service or photo prints products?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10901#msg10901

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Thank you for contacting deviantART. I'm sorry but the only payment options available are those shown on the checkout page.

If you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you,

Chris Price
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August 23, 2010, 10:07:15 PM
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Do you accept Bitcoin for products purchased from your xkcd store?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10903#msg10903

On an unrelated note, it would be AMAZING if xkcd were to produce a comic dedicated to Bitcoin!

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No, we don't : /  We only accept credit/debit cards and PayPal.

best,
Matthew Smoot
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http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10906#msg10906

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August 23, 2010, 10:16:17 PM
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Do you accept Bitcoin for products purchased from your store?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10908#msg10908

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No we do not.  Just Visa, Mastercard and Paypal.

Nate Stoltz, Split Reason Clothing Inc., http://www.splitreason.com, nate@splitreason.com
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August 23, 2010, 10:27:46 PM
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Do you accept Bitcoin for products purchased from your store?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10910#msg10910

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Note: Contact topatoco.com directly instead.
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August 23, 2010, 10:33:39 PM
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August 23, 2010, 10:46:45 PM
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I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started to do the same thing...

I encourage it!  There are many businesses.  I am focusing primarily on geek, technology, or artist-related sites/businesses.  You're welcome to contribute if you'd like.  I can link the reply in the first post as I have been doing.
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August 23, 2010, 11:16:47 PM
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I suggested bitcoin as a means of currency to pokerstars.com. They have 5 million free tables, why not have a couple bitcoin tables?

Here was the response, probably nothing comes of it:



Looks like a standard email response form to me.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath.

Not to mention pokerstars is notoriously slow for adopting new things. Their affiliate program took forever to offer rake and still do not allow them to offer rakeback. Granted they are the fastest and most stable with IMHO the best cashout procedure. A better option might be the Merge Network(Carbon poker is one of the skins of many) and/or FullTilt for quick adoption.

Being a huge company they are often slow. But that's a terrible example. Affiliate are a curse on poker. I clicked a bad affiliate link 6 years ago so I can't get the same rake back as most people on FT. I get excellent rakeback on PS with no affiliate. The fact that they don't call it rakeback doesn't make it spend any less well. I get over 40%, you are not going to get that without large volume though. Which is totally reasonable and fair, it's just like buying at Costco or from a wholesaler.

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Great work, misery!

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Bumping this for info...

I came across lastpass.com and liked their service, wanted to use it to save some passwords for my phone. It is $1/mo, so I emailed them and asked if they would consider bitcoin as payment, instead of paypal.

I received a response:

"Thanks for the suggestion - right now this doesn't look very user friendly."

I sent a friendly follow-up, thanking him for his time, saying I respectfully disagree and to please consider bitcoin in the future.

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Bumping this for info...

I came across lastpass.com and liked their service, wanted to use it to save some passwords for my phone. It is $1/mo, so I emailed them and asked if they would consider bitcoin as payment, instead of paypal.

I received a response:

"Thanks for the suggestion - right now this doesn't look very user friendly."

I sent a friendly follow-up, thanking him for his time, saying I respectfully disagree and to please consider bitcoin in the future.

I wrote to Sales Inquiry - LastPass for Consumers with the following:
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A Bitcoin community member posted to Bitcoin forums suggesting they had contacted lastpass.com asking if LastPass would consider accepting Bitcoin as a method of payment.  They continued suggesting that LastPass.com had responded claiming "right now this doesn't look very user friendly."

I would like to understand this response further so as to provide opportunity for Bitcoin to improve so as to become more user friendly in the perspective of LastPass.com.  If you are willing, please elaborate and I will relay this to the community so they may further improve Bitcoin so as to potentially gain wider acceptance.

Thank you.

P.S. http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg15771#msg15771
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There's no way our average customer is going to download a P2P app to pay - they want to do everything in the browser. We have a hard enough time just getting people to use PayPal.
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There's no way our average customer is going to download a P2P app to pay - they want to do everything in the browser. We have a hard enough time just getting people to use PayPal.

You should point out that no downloads are required with http://www.mybitcoin.com/

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I'm a happy LastPass subscriber... and I hate to say it, but they're right.  At this point there's no way the average consumer will use Bitcoin, even via a website like mybitcoin.com.

I think it will be a few years before bitcoin and bitcoin-related services are reliable and trustworthy enough for the average consumer.  Don't get me wrong, I think bitcoin is a fantastic idea and has a good chance of being Really Important, but it is going to take a long for it to get accepted as a viable alternative to other payment solutions.


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What is the risk to LastPass? So they have a handful of customers pay 16 btc/mo instead of $1/mo?

MtGox could offer them a payment option, and send them cash each month automatically.

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I agree with the current situation. Its too co mplex.

At the same time I disagree about the timing. Why cant the smart people here work this out and work together with some early adopters (maybe someone can convince LastPass or another site to work together with us to try)?

Cant we challenge our self to do this in a week?





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I agree with the current situation. Its too co mplex.

At the same time I disagree about the timing. Why cant the smart people here work this out and work together with some early adopters (maybe someone can convince LastPass or another site to work together with us to try)?

Cant we challenge our self to do this in a week?




For some things maybe it makes sense to work as a reseller/affiliate. You get a discount from the site for buying bulk, pay them with FRNs and accept BTC from customers. It's good for everyone because the affiliate has the BTC knowledge, the retailer gets extra sales and the customer has the convenience/anonymity of bitcoin.

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bitcoin, as a whole, took a great leap forward when MyBitcoin introduced its Shopping Cart Interface (SCI).

This brings bitcoin in line with the other major e-currencies/e-commodities, each of which offers the same basic merchant interface:

Pecunix: http://info.pecunix.com/pecunix_pri.htm
Liberty Reserve: http://www.libertyreserve.com/en/help/merchants/sci/
GlobalDigitalPay: https://www.globaldigitalpay.com/merchant_api.htm
Perfect Money: http://perfectmoney.com/documents/perfectmoney-sci-2.0.doc

If you can understand HTML forms and MD5/SHA signatures, you can implement a payment gateway for any of the above (including bitcoin).

Obtaining an industry-standard merchant interface was a big milestone for bitcoin, and we have now reached and surpassed it!  Kudos to the MyBitcoin guys.

The main problem for general consumers, in my opinion, is the difficulty of obtaining and storing bitcoins.  Most consumers will not be bitcoin miners, which means they will need easy, idiot-proof ways of obtaining bitcoins.  bitcoinmarket and mtgox are far too complex for the "average consumer" IMO, who just wants to have money, and use money.

You shouldn't need a login, nor need to understand the concept of bid/ask prices, in order to obtain bitcoins.  Your average "Aunt Tillie" would be completely confused by mtgox.  If we want bitcoin to succeed, you need to make it as easy as possible for interested parties to obtain bitcoins.

https://buybitcoins.com/ is one place that approaches the needed simplicity (though it seems broken at the moment), by only requiring a credit card number. https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ is another great place for people to get a few bitcoins in an easy way.  And if you already have e-currency, my store is my attempt to ease the process of obtaining bitcoins.

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October 07, 2010, 11:13:35 PM
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I been thinking of funding a series of bounty for browser extensions that store as well automatically receive bitcoins.

I also want to do it in conjuction of forming the first ever bitcoin mutual aid society, the Bitcoin Mutual Aid Association at http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395.0

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November 23, 2010, 03:40:44 PM
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The idea of promotion of bitcoin through an organized letter-writing campaign by potential customers and/or donors, is brilliant, effective, and One I've been preaching. 

In fact, this thread gives me another brilliant idea.

I'm going to go create it.    I'll be right back...  and show it to you.
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I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started to do the same thing...

I encourage it!  There are many businesses.  I am focusing primarily on geek, technology, or artist-related sites/businesses.  You're welcome to contribute if you'd like.  I can link the reply in the first post as I have been doing.

Hello. I am unfamiliar to BC system yet and stumbled upon this topic searching for something a little else through Google and just wanted to post my opinion over the tactic that you are about to choose (or have already chosen).
I think that the persistent and aggressive advertising of the system through rapid and partly artificial referencing to it (and inquiring about it) will cause too much harm to it's reputation and goodwill in future.
Why won't you start collecting digital signatures with appropriate validation facts under the document, declaring your will and desire to buy goods and services using Bitcoins instead? Demonstrate the potential of the system better than generating a noise background – I think that is when the future will start moving towards us faster.
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Hello. I am unfamiliar to BC system yet and stumbled upon this topic searching for something a little else through Google and just wanted to post my opinion over the tactic that you are about to choose (or have already chosen).
I think that the persistent and aggressive advertising of the system through rapid and partly artificial referencing to it (and inquiring about it) will cause too much harm to it's reputation and goodwill in future.
Why won't you start collecting digital signatures with appropriate validation facts under the document, declaring your will and desire to buy goods and services using Bitcoins instead? Demonstrate the potential of the system better than generating a noise background – I think that is when the future will start moving towards us faster.

I am not sure about that.  The thing about Bitcoin, is there are a lot of things about its fundamentals, that when some people see it, they say - ah ha! - this is what I've been waiting for.  And they support it, sort of out of a political motivation, as sort of a way of doing a good turn for mankind.  There are enough of these sorts of people out there to make it happen.  For everyone else, Bitcoin will come out of left field.

I own a majority share of a small business that provides time clock services to payroll companies and employers across the U.S.  We recently made the decision to start accepting Bitcoin.  We don't sell anything to the public, so I'm not necessarily eager to go slap our name on the "trade" page, but this billing cycle (March 1) we sent out all our invoices (perhaps 1,000) with a pay stub that says "We Accept Bitcoin at https://www.swipeclock.com/scci/BTC", listed right after Visa/Mastercard/Amex.  I don't expect an influx of Bitcoin payments, but it's one small step: 1,000 companies now have a vendor they can pay with BTC, which is one drop of oil in the machine.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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Hello. I am unfamiliar to BC system yet and stumbled upon this topic searching for something a little else through Google and just wanted to post my opinion over the tactic that you are about to choose (or have already chosen).
I think that the persistent and aggressive advertising of the system through rapid and partly artificial referencing to it (and inquiring about it) will cause too much harm to it's reputation and goodwill in future.
Why won't you start collecting digital signatures with appropriate validation facts under the document, declaring your will and desire to buy goods and services using Bitcoins instead? Demonstrate the potential of the system better than generating a noise background – I think that is when the future will start moving towards us faster.

I am not sure about that.  The thing about Bitcoin, is there are a lot of things about its fundamentals, that when some people see it, they say - ah ha! - this is what I've been waiting for.  And they support it, sort of out of a political motivation, as sort of a way of doing a good turn for mankind.  There are enough of these sorts of people out there to make it happen.  For everyone else, Bitcoin will come out of left field.

I own a majority share of a small business that provides time clock services to payroll companies and employers across the U.S.  We recently made the decision to start accepting Bitcoin.  We don't sell anything to the public, so I'm not necessarily eager to go slap our name on the "trade" page, but this billing cycle (March 1) we sent out all our invoices (perhaps 1,000) with a pay stub that says "We Accept Bitcoin at https://www.swipeclock.com/scci/BTC", listed right after Visa/Mastercard/Amex.  I don't expect an influx of Bitcoin payments, but it's one small step: 1,000 companies now have a vendor they can pay with BTC, which is one drop of oil in the machine.


+5 to you.  This is how bitcoin gradually becomes actually useful.

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Be sure to always cite the exchange rate (so that people know how liquid Bitcoin is), and you can even throw in some media coverage articles to both legitimize Bitcoin to people who don't know about it and to let a journalist explain Bitcoin for you.
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Hello. I am unfamiliar to BC system yet and stumbled upon this topic searching for something a little else through Google and just wanted to post my opinion over the tactic that you are about to choose (or have already chosen).
I think that the persistent and aggressive advertising of the system through rapid and partly artificial referencing to it (and inquiring about it) will cause too much harm to it's reputation and goodwill in future.
Why won't you start collecting digital signatures with appropriate validation facts under the document, declaring your will and desire to buy goods and services using Bitcoins instead? Demonstrate the potential of the system better than generating a noise background – I think that is when the future will start moving towards us faster.

I am not sure about that.  The thing about Bitcoin, is there are a lot of things about its fundamentals, that when some people see it, they say - ah ha! - this is what I've been waiting for.  And they support it, sort of out of a political motivation, as sort of a way of doing a good turn for mankind.  There are enough of these sorts of people out there to make it happen.  For everyone else, Bitcoin will come out of left field.

I own a majority share of a small business that provides time clock services to payroll companies and employers across the U.S.  We recently made the decision to start accepting Bitcoin.  We don't sell anything to the public, so I'm not necessarily eager to go slap our name on the "trade" page, but this billing cycle (March 1) we sent out all our invoices (perhaps 1,000) with a pay stub that says "We Accept Bitcoin at https://www.swipeclock.com/scci/BTC", listed right after Visa/Mastercard/Amex.  I don't expect an influx of Bitcoin payments, but it's one small step: 1,000 companies now have a vendor they can pay with BTC, which is one drop of oil in the machine.


I'd donate if I could. And any chance that code for generating the payment addresses could be posted? Could be useful for other businesses.
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I'd donate if I could. And any chance that code for generating the payment addresses could be posted? Could be useful for other businesses.

I went low tech.

I generated a bunch of addresses in the client, loaded them into the web app.  The web app dispenses one (and records the invoice number) each time the page is used. If an address has already been allocated to an invoice, it gives the same one if the same invoice number gets entered, so they are hard to inadvertently waste.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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Steve Gibson's www.grc.com will be accepting Bitcoin.  This was me:  Smiley  

TOM:  I'm glad you're able to keep watching, Mike.  All right, let's move into Listener Feedback #111, start it off with Spencer in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  And like we mentioned at the top of the show, a lot of Bitcoin questions in here because people are excited about this.  But when you start using it, you immediately start having questions.  When I was launching it during the show last week I had questions about, well, wait a minute, it doesn't seem to be connecting, how long does it take to connect, all that kind of thing.  So here's Spencer's question.

He says:  I'm a longtime fan of Security Now!, great stuff, and was very intrigued by last week's topic, Bitcoin.  I perused the trade page that lists eCommerce sites that accept bitcoins as payment.  As one of the most visible crypto geeks on the web, would you, Steve, ever consider supporting Bitcoin payments in exchange for GRC products?  And then he says:  Errata:  A very large number of bitcoin transactions occurred on February 9th.  Just a coincidence that Security Now! aired that day?  Take care.

STEVE:  Well, I had a number of listeners write in with that question.  And the answer is yes.  I think - I like the idea.  I think it's cool.  I did write my own eCommerce system.  So my feeling is, I mean, why not?  What the heck?  I'm not sure what it would mean to do that, but I think it would be fun.  So next time I'm in my eCommerce system making some changes - I probably will be at some point in the future.  I haven't touched it, knock on wood, actually since I wrote it.  It never had any bugs.  So it's been a while since I've been in there.  But I know that our legislature in Washington keeps looking at all of the tax revenue which is being lost because Internet transactions are nontaxable under most circumstances, and I don't know how long that moratorium is going to continue.  So I keep watching that nervously, thinking, okay, well, I'm probably going to have to go back in and deal with tax at some point.  So when I'm in there, I think I probably will.  I think that would be cool.  Basically what it would mean is that I would be publishing that long alphanumeric string token, which would be our Bitcoin account.  And people who had bitcoinage could move money over to us that way, which it would be authenticable, and it would be irreversible and, I think, fun.  So I plan to do that.

TOM:  How much would it be in bitcoins?  Would you just keep it at parity?  We drove up the value of bitcoins, I think, talking about it last week.

STEVE:  Actually, I think that also happened, yes.  We drove it above a dollar per bitcoin.  I know that it generated a lot of traffic.  There was a comment on the Bitcoin.org page saying that - no, it was the Bitcoin status account on Twitter said that, due to unusual level of activity, they were having problems with their server.  So I think we did tax them.  Our listeners taxed them.

TOM:  We did some stress testing.

STEVE:  Yeah.  So I guess I would somehow use the current currency trading rate versus the U.S. dollar for bitcoinage, which you could probably determine online, to determine at any given time what fraction of bitcoins was equal to the price of the software.  So, interesting problems.


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The idea of promotion of bitcoin through an organized letter-writing campaign by potential customers and/or donors, is brilliant, effective, and One I've been preaching. 

In fact, this thread gives me another brilliant idea.

I'm going to go create it.    I'll be right back...  and show it to you.


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Feel free to show your support to XKCD if you would liek!

<Randall> here's how far I'll go: if anyone types this URL, they can see a black hole into which they can deposit bitcoins: http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/

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Answer to topic: Yes, for one year now.

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I accept btc on my site mmoclub.com that offers virtual currency for mmorpg and pays out btc for the virtual gold as well.

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It looks like the xkcd guy changed his "Bitcoin hole" address to 14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk  (http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/)


http://blockexplorer.com/address/14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk
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It looks like the xkcd guy changed his "Bitcoin hole" address to 14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk  (http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/)


http://blockexplorer.com/address/14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk

Interesting. Awhile back he had put a message at that URL saying he was no longer accepting Bitcoin donations. He also went into the Bitcoin channels on freenode IRC and said that he didn't want to promote Bitcoin to his fans, and that was his reason for pulling the address.
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August 27, 2012, 07:19:40 PM
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It looks like the xkcd guy changed his "Bitcoin hole" address to 14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk  (http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/)


http://blockexplorer.com/address/14FHqYSgAi39CEJksUJJsK8JzJzyqFpLVk

However, the last transaction was January this year and the coins have not yet been spent.

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