how can you build a ASIC miner ?

[zamaliphe]

what tools do you need and experience ?

i'm not looking to build a GPU miners as i know how i can build a GPU mining rig

i'm looking to ASIC miners

[xstr8guy]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

[ruffian]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Companies are people

[zamaliphe]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Companies are people

exactly and in fact i'm doing a start-up we are in funding face 1 now

but we are looking to create a cloud mining platform and we want to create our miners as this is the only way to lower the cost

[xstr8guy]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Companies are people

Or so says the US Supreme Court... when it comes to contributing to political campaigns, lol.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

But of course, that's not what I meant. Consumers don't build ASICs. It's not like buying parts and building a PC.

[zamaliphe]

i do understand what its i'm just looking for a good start

[xstr8guy]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Companies are people

exactly and in fact i'm doing a start-up we are in funding face 1 now

but we are looking to create a cloud mining platform and we want to create our miners as this is the only way to lower the cost

You're a newbie with a negative trust rating and you're asking for how-to-build instructions for an ASIC miner on a public forum. And you're also looking for funding to build a cloudmining operation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909464.0

Good luck with that, lol! You're trying to run before you can even walk.

[zamaliphe]

beaning  newbie here dosnot mean i'm nob you understate me without even know who I’m

and for negative trust zon some fu* off ask me a question about a loan  them provided me with negative feedback

so any way i can walk very well in fact i was doing very good but just thought i would need an account here recently 

[bearda]

Basically you need to have pretty advanced knowledge of digital logic/VHDL/etc, really understand the math underlying the crypto routines in block mining, and have a relationship with a facility that can handle chip fabrication.  If you're asking that question it sounds like you have none of those skills.  Seriously, it's not a task to be taken lightly.

[sidehack]

Or build a board around someone else's chips, which can do pretty well if you do it right (Technobit, Peppermining etc).

[zamaliphe]

Or build a board around someone else's chips, which can do pretty well if you do it right (Technobit, Peppermining etc).

that is basicly what i think i will go for so which ship you think is the best profile now ? maybe fro alt coin ?
profile == (parts are easy to find AND great hash power)

[sidehack]

I don't really know. Who's selling chips currently? Anything built now is going to have to compete with a generation of 0.2-0.3W/GH stuff in a few months, which is going to hurt longevity. Also as a rule I ignore altcoins so can't (or won't, either way) give advice there.

If you can get a barrel of BE200 for cheap and underclock the crap out of 'em might be okay. Avalon's new chips are available in quantity and have decent (for extant hardware) power efficiency, not sure about pricing though. I'm looking forward to BE300 availability but information is sparse and the chips themselves are two months away.

[zamaliphe]

I don't really know. Who's selling chips currently? Anything built now is going to have to compete with a generation of 0.2-0.3W/GH stuff in a few months, which is going to hurt longevity. Also as a rule I ignore altcoins so can't (or won't, either way) give advice there.

If you can get a barrel of BE200 for cheap and underclock the crap out of 'em might be okay. Avalon's new chips are available in quantity and have decent (for extant hardware) power efficiency, not sure about pricing though. I'm looking forward to BE300 availability but information is sparse and the chips themselves are two months away.

i dont care about power consuming i get a very cheep power  where i will be hosting this
its one of my main reasons to think about it

1-  power cheep
2- internet cheep and fast
3- location is cheep and secure

the only costly part will be the miners so if we can make them then it will be WoW

[sidehack]

You need to weigh the expected savings of producing miners vs purchasing exising miners in bulk from a large manufacturer, against the opportunity cost of mined coins during the time between which you'd have hardware in hand if you bought existing versus the expected start of mining from in-house-production hardware. If you can use less-efficient gear and have somewhere to put it, talk to Bitmain about some of the petahashes of S3s they're unloading on the cheap. Buy a truckload or three, run them until the daily operating cost equals the daily average yield, then start working them down with undervolts and underclocks.

[zamaliphe]

i'm thinking to buy some of this

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/bitcoin-asics/

any recommendation ? suggestions of better or maybe lower rate products ?

[charlieSeen]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Really?

Companies hire people to build and manufacture the chips for the company so they can sell them.

Who do you think companies design, research and test their chips?

[MichaelBliss]

i'm thinking to buy some of this

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/bitcoin-asics/

any recommendation ? suggestions of better or maybe lower rate products ?

That sounds just about right.   (Blackarrow have a poor reputation)

[xstr8guy]

People don't build ASIC miners. Companies do. People just buy them.

Really?

Companies hire people to build and manufacture the chips for the company so they can sell them.

Who do you think companies design, research and test their chips?

+1
correct thanks

I could argue all day about this. But this is clearly someone who is in over their head. And asking about chips from a known scam company (BlackArrow) boldly illustrates this.

[sidehack]

If you want Blackarrow chips, I bet Technobit has a bunch they'd be willing to unload since they haven't put them on boards for customers due in August yet.

[zamaliphe]

@all i'm not asking to urgo with any one please i'm asking for information from a trusted persons that is all what i need  if blackarrowsoftware.com is scams then this is Good i found out about this early but i saw peoples selling small amounts of chips on Ebay this is why thy must soled some before any way if you do know thy are scamming what is a good alternative thanks