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January 02, 2015, 06:27:43 PM
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I was really wondering and to be honest this is the only forum with big community that I've seen that use Simple machines forum software,and not sure about this informations but heard that theymos pays 350k $ for developement on this forum ? Can anyone confirm?

I mean .. there is planty of awesome forum sofwares out there Open source , Alright IPB  & MyBB may be for small forums . but vBulletin can definitly do the job , It's not free but Licence is not that expensive to buy , certaintly not for a forum that gets donations like this one .

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January 02, 2015, 06:32:15 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.
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January 02, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

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January 02, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.
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January 02, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.

Yes  , I think this is the gitHub repo :  https://github.com/epochtalk


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January 02, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
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I am excited for the new forum, but I hope it doesn't look too different from the current version of this forum, as I am used to it.
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January 02, 2015, 09:19:20 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.

So it'll be completely useless to people who don't have Javascript enabled then? Dumb.

JS can pose quite a security risk and a lot of people disable it. Kind of surprising coming from the BTC community, where everybody seems obsessed with security issues.

Done with this forum. Goodbye all.
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January 02, 2015, 09:19:35 PM
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It's safe and the best for our purposes Wink
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January 02, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.

So it'll be completely useless to people who don't have Javascript enabled then? Dumb.

JS can pose quite a security risk and a lot of people disable it. Kind of surprising coming from the BTC community, where everybody seems obsessed with security issues.

It's open-source and the code WILL be audited by someone. On top of that, anyone can audit the code actually.
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January 02, 2015, 10:50:24 PM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.

So it'll be completely useless to people who don't have Javascript enabled then? Dumb.

JS can pose quite a security risk and a lot of people disable it. Kind of surprising coming from the BTC community, where everybody seems obsessed with security issues.

It's open-source and the code WILL be audited by someone. On top of that, anyone can audit the code actually.

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum code itself. Hopefully user input will be heavily sanitized, because a user could easily use a form field (i.e; this post box, or the title field) to inject malicious code into the site, and use javascript to force a malware download or the like.

Done with this forum. Goodbye all.
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January 02, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
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Also the more add-ons and special options you have, the higher is the contact surface for hacker.
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January 03, 2015, 02:17:37 AM
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Also the more add-ons and special options you have, the higher is the contact surface for hacker.

The forum got compromised even through avatars. I don't know how wise it will be to leave it exposed, the incentive to attack this is very high.






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January 03, 2015, 05:21:10 AM
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Shame about the avatars but I'm not surprised that theymos takes forum security very seriously. This forum is pretty much the epicenter of the Bitcoin community. If the community here was compromised in some way, then Bitcoin itself would most likely be affected too. Perhaps not on a technical level but you get the idea.

I was really wondering and to be honest this is the only forum with big community that I've seen that use Simple machines forum software,and not sure about this informations but heard that theymos pays 350k $ for developement on this forum ? Can anyone confirm?

Really? $350,000 for this forum? That sounds like too much. And isn't vBulletin normally considered to be the best forum software? Although my information might be out of date. And I don't think vBulletin is open source either.

I heard that someone (theymos perhaps?) was going to change the forum software but I'm not sure. There is also a mirror of the forum at bitcointa.lk which uses a forum software called XenForo which I've never heard of before. It calls itself "the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum software" but I don't think anyone uses it for anything other than finding deleted posts.
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January 03, 2015, 08:04:07 AM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.


I really heard of this programming language like for the second time xD I guess PrimeDice gambling website is written using this language , correct me if I'am wrong.
But does this mean that JavaScript will be enabled all the time and we should disable Adblock also otherwise the page won't display as it should be ? Shocked

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January 03, 2015, 09:58:59 AM
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I like this forum as it is. I have seen a lot of new, well designed forums with a lot of features and for some reason they don't appeal to me.
I think this forum needs small changes and it will be fine, like a 2 Factor Authentication (need it urgently), and a better search function. Adding avatar would be a bonus but only if it was sure it wouldn't compromise security.
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January 03, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
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You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.

From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.


I really heard of this programming language like for the second time xD I guess PrimeDice gambling website is written using this language , correct me if I'am wrong.
But does this mean that JavaScript will be enabled all the time and we should disable Adblock also otherwise the page won't display as it should be ? Shocked

There will be javascript but I think the forum will display fine with javascript disabled.

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January 03, 2015, 10:38:49 AM
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Shame about the avatars but I'm not surprised that theymos takes forum security very seriously. This forum is pretty much the epicenter of the Bitcoin community. If the community here was compromised in some way, then Bitcoin itself would most likely be affected too. Perhaps not on a technical level but you get the idea.

I was really wondering and to be honest this is the only forum with big community that I've seen that use Simple machines forum software,and not sure about this informations but heard that theymos pays 350k $ for developement on this forum ? Can anyone confirm?

Really? $350,000 for this forum? That sounds like too much. And isn't vBulletin normally considered to be the best forum software? Although my information might be out of date. And I don't think vBulletin is open source either.

I heard that someone (theymos perhaps?) was going to change the forum software but I'm not sure. There is also a mirror of the forum at bitcointa.lk which uses a forum software called XenForo which I've never heard of before. It calls itself "the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum software" but I don't think anyone uses it for anything other than finding deleted posts.

As I heard yes it's about 350k $ not sure if the guy was just trolling but he seems like a serious member and he was Hero member if I'am not mistaken . & Yes vBulletin may not be Open source but it's definitly the best from Security and he should only Hire Couple of designers to make a nice Theme + Security Professionals to secure it . I would say It will cost him like 20k $ TOP .

You have to pay better attention.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0

New forum software is in development and is supposed to be finished in a matter of months if I'm not mistaken.



From what I understood the new forum Software that is in Developement is another version of Simple machines forum , Correct ? Or it's completly new ? if not ... Because I was speaking about MyBB , vBulletin etc ... which are totally better from Security and design then Simple machines .

No. The new forum software is being written entirely from scratch, and it uses Node.js. Not PHP like all the ones you've been mentioning.


I really heard of this programming language like for the second time xD I guess PrimeDice gambling website is written using this language , correct me if I'am wrong.
But does this mean that JavaScript will be enabled all the time and we should disable Adblock also otherwise the page won't display as it should be ? Shocked

There will be javascript but I think the forum will display fine with javascript disabled.


That wouldn't make sense a lot if you ask me Shocked
Anyway the new forum should be available by Feb 2015 (Couple of months more) but they said there will be a Beta test in the previous decemeber or november if I remember right but seems like there is nothing

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January 03, 2015, 10:41:25 AM
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That wouldn't make sense a lot if you ask me Shocked
Anyway the new forum should be available by Feb 2015 (Couple of months more) but they said there will be a Beta test in the previous decemeber or november if I remember right but seems like there is nothing

Why not? thats how the forum currently works. Javascript is optional.

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January 03, 2015, 10:43:08 AM
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Really? $350,000 for this forum? That sounds like too much. And isn't vBulletin normally considered to be the best forum software? Although my information might be out of date. And I don't think vBulletin is open source either.


It's not "just" for this forum, it could be a competitor to all the other forums. If they do it right, it could be quite a boon for bitcoin.

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January 03, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
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That wouldn't make sense a lot if you ask me Shocked
Anyway the new forum should be available by Feb 2015 (Couple of months more) but they said there will be a Beta test in the previous decemeber or november if I remember right but seems like there is nothing

Why not? thats how the forum currently works. Javascript is optional.

Oh well Optional , I thought it's fully written in Javascript because it wouldn't make sense if it's full of Js & Adblock blocks the Javascript and you said it displays right Shocked

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